Player Watch: Hugo Lloris

C0YS · Feb 2, 2020

C0YS said:
I don't believe that. PG penalty save rates are not particularly good. Last week was only his second penalty save in 15 attempts. Similarly 3 saves in 13 attempts in penalty shootouts is nothing to write home about (average at best). Lloris is yet to face a penalty shoot out for club and country so don't know what his stats are like.

But nothing suggests PG is a particularly effective penalty stopper.

Also Lloris' penalty record at Spurs has always been decent.

Saves Penalties
12/13
0/2
13/14
2/5
14/15
2/8
15/16
0/3
16/17
1/3
17/18
2/6
18/19
3/8
19/20
1/3

Total 11/38

Which is around 29% and much higher that the average which is around 17%. It also is fairly consistent throughout his time here.

PG rate is 1/5 which is lower at 20% but is in fairness a small sample.

WiganSpur · Feb 2, 2020

LeParisien said:
Top class performance. In a couple of months he’ll make a mistake that’ll cost us a goal and people will say he’s shit and never turns up in the big games.

a year ago there were people here saying that he never saves penalties. Fml humans

He's definitely worked on the pens. I might be wrong but don't think he saved one for years prior to this streak. I personally don't count the one in Turin a couple of years ago now.

LeParisien · Feb 2, 2020

WiganSpur said:
He's definitely worked on the pens. He hadn't saved one for years prior to this streak.

10 mins ago there are people saying he never used to save pens. He’s definitely got better/luckier but his save rate before was decent.
3 faced in the league in 17/18. 1 saved.

scat1620 · Feb 2, 2020

LeParisien said:
Why would you say that on the Internet? People can check what to you say through a 2 minute google. And it’s wrong. He saves about 20% of penalties faced

Hugo Lloris - Statistiques de penaltys

Voici les statistiques de Hugo Lloris du club Los Angeles FC en matière de penaltys. Cette page montre combien de penaltys le joueur a tiré et combien ont été transformés.

www.transfermarkt.fr

I can't remember some of the other older ones, but that TransferMarkt link has him saving the Jason Puncheon penalty that Puncheon put halfway down the Tottenham High Road, so unless I'm forgetting Lloris growing 200ft tall and getting a touch on that Puncheon one as it sailed over, I wouldn't necessarily place total faith in the accuracy of those stats.

kaz Hirai · Feb 2, 2020

Neon_Knight_ said:
A year ago he had never saved a penalty for us...then he went and saved three in a row (four of the last five he's faced, after today).

LeParisien · Feb 2, 2020

scat1620 said:
I can't remember some of the other older ones, byt that TransferMarkt link has him saving the Jason Puncheon penalty that Puncheon put halfway down the Tottenham High Road, so unless I'm forgetting Lloris growing 200ft tall and getting a touch on that Puncheon one as it sailed over, I wouldn't necessarily place total faith in the accuracy of those stats.

Fair enough. Let’s go off the EPL website which has it at 19% penalty save rate. Hardly a stick to beat him with.

yankspurs · Feb 2, 2020

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Tucker · Feb 2, 2020

LeParisien said:
Fair enough. Let’s go off the EPL website which has it at 19% penalty save rate. Hardly a stick to beat him with.

People have such unrealistic expectations of our players. Penalties more often than not hit the back of the net, no matter who is between the sticks.

sausage · Feb 2, 2020

LeParisien said:
Why would you say that on the Internet? People can check what to you say through a 2 minute google. And it’s wrong. He saves about 20% of penalties faced

Up until a year ago (like I said) he'd been through about a 5 year spell where he saved only one and conceded around a dozen.

As you say, a 2 minute google.

WiganSpur · Feb 2, 2020

sausage said:
Up until a year ago (like I said) he'd been through about a 5 year spell where he saved only one and conceded around a dozen.

As you say, a 2 minute google.

Yep. And watch the pen he supposedly saved against Higuain. I'm actually praising him rather than being critical because he's worked on them 100%

LeParisien · Feb 2, 2020

sausage said:
Up until a year ago (like I said) he'd been through about a 5 year spell where he saved only one and conceded around a dozen.

As you say, a 2 minute google.

For a few seasons he’s running on 8/9%. His average is 20%. He has clearly had multiple bursts where he saves unusual amounts. His stats over time compare very favourably to most goalkeepers, even without the current hot streak. Penalties are hard to save.

bubble07 · Feb 2, 2020

Was I dreaming or did I read ITK that Hugo signed a new deal with us?

sausage · Feb 2, 2020

LeParisien said:
For a few seasons he’s running on 8/9%. His average is 20%. He has clearly had multiple bursts where he saves unusual amounts. His stats over time compare very favourably to most goalkeepers, even without the current hot streak. Penalties are hard to save.

That wasn't the context, though - you were complaining that people were previously saying he never saves them. I was explaining that it's because his spurs career so far is book-ended by loads of saves around 2014, then almost 5 years of pretty much not saving them, then he's back on it within the last year. That's pretty much the entirety of Poch's time here that he struggled to save any.

I get that DDG and some others aren't very good at saving penalties, but it wasn't a comparative or a criticism - it was an explanation of why the general feeling was that he didn't save any. It also wasn't an expectation that he should (as another poster stated).

Some keepers are very good - Kharine at Chelsea had a save rate of nearly 50% (5 out of 11), and Srnicek was similar (5 of 12). Some of the best PL goalkeepers might not have been so good at them (Schmeichel isn't anywhere near the top 10).

markiespurs · Feb 2, 2020

danielneeds said:
He looks refreshed and a lot more decisive in everything he did. Almost like the break has recharged him. Probably just burned out after the WC win.

Change of coaching has probably done him the world of good as well

markiespurs · Feb 2, 2020

Penalty save aside, I thought he had a fairly easy game. Had to do a fair bit of basic goal keeping, which he did very well, which for me was good to see as it was his basic goal keeping that had begun to let him down.

fuzzylogic · Feb 2, 2020

Tucker said:
People have such unrealistic expectations of our players. Penalties more often than not hit the back of the net, no matter who is between the sticks.

Absolutely spot on, pardon the pun. Penalties are a game of chance but the goalie is definitely at a disadvantage odds wise

danielneeds · Feb 2, 2020

Neon_Knight_ said:
Perhaps burnout played a part, but the whole squad looks a bit refreshed since the change of management.

I think Lloris even said in an interview the WC cup win left him feeling burnt out, which led to the drink driving incident. His brain just looked less scrambled today.

Strikeb4ck · Feb 2, 2020

WiganSpur said:
He's definitely worked on the pens. I might be wrong but don't think he saved one for years prior to this streak. I personally don't count the one in Turin a couple of years ago now.

He saved one against Aguero in the home leg of our tie v City last season, probably 10 months ago.

yankspurs · Feb 3, 2020

markiespurs said:
Penalty save aside, I thought he had a fairly easy game. Had to do a fair bit of basic goal keeping, which he did very well, which for me was good to see as it was his basic goal keeping that had begun to let him down.

He made a ridiculous save after Sanchez bungled it in the first half

McFlash · Feb 3, 2020

He looked solid and comfortable today, good to see him back to his best.
Loved the passion and aggression he showed too.
Without all the faffing about at the back that we used to do, he really is a bloody good keeper.

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