Player watch: Christian Eriksen

TheHoddleWaddle · Jan 14, 2020

ATZR said:
Hello guys.

The latest reports from Italy is that Marotta (Inter's CEO/Sporting Director) has made a first offer of €8-10m. (Don't shoot the messenger.) Marotta is an excellent director but known to be a bit miserly.

Naturally, you'd expect the first lowball offer to get rejected and for negotiations to go from there.

This past year we haven't "saved" much in our transfers. We've ended up paying nearly the full asking price for most of our arrivals, albeit mitigated by the way the transfer is structured.

For example, we paid around €50m for Nicolo Barella. If I recall correctly, the deal was structured as €15m loan fee + €32m obligation + €3m in easily-met bonuses.. or something along those lines.

If this deal gets done, I'd expect us to pay pretty close to original €20m asking price in some form or another.

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I'm reluctant to weigh in on the debate over Inter and the "size" of the club and all of that stuff. All I will say is that I believe Serie A has increased it's stock in the eyes of footballers in recent years - as has Inter.

We've recently exited a banter decade (fingers crossed) with a new, solid, management structure (unlike Milan). We have a financially powerful ownership in the Suning Group helping us achieve record levels of revenue from sponsorship and financial growth.

There are also new tax laws in Italy which allow new residents over a certain income threshold to pay less tax. Previously, clubs would have to pay €8m gross for a player to earn €4.5m net after tax (rounding up here). With these new laws, the club would only have to pay €7m or so (again, rounding up). This helps Italian clubs to compete with other leagues in better economies in paying top wages.

Overall, even as cynical as I am in my view towards Italy and Serie A, I believe that Serie A and Inter are a much more attractive destination than they were 5 years ago.

Lifestyle too. Dolomites, lake district (garda como etc), and a host of other places a short distance away. Milan itself is a great city and the food is sensational.

I'd be off like a shot.

dagraham · Jan 14, 2020

TheHoddleWaddle said:
Lifestyle too. Dolomites, lake district (garda como etc), and a host of other places a short distance away. Milan itself is a great city and the food is sensational.

I'd be off like a shot.

Yeah I’ve been to Lake Garda. Beautiful place.

Japhet · Jan 14, 2020

SpartanSpur said:
Don't think he's off to Inter just yet. Jose has said he's playing vs Boro.

If that's true, it sends a really shit message to our other players. Lo Celso sat on the bench watching Eriksen pansy around must drive him fucking nuts. In fact, you can tell it does by the way he pitches into his tackles the moment he gets on.

freeeki · Jan 14, 2020

I really wish he'd hurry up and piss off.

For all his occasional quality and his obvious versatility, based on his general demeanour on the pitch and his blatant disinterest over the past 18 months, I have a feeling that the mentality of the squad will begin to shift quicker once he's out the door.

Having such a high profile squad member openly not want to be here for such a prolonged period of time is not a good thing.

dagraham · Jan 14, 2020

Japhet said:
If that's true, it sends a really shit message to our other players. Lo Celso sat on the bench watching Eriksen pansy around must drive him fucking nuts. In fact, you can tell it does by the way he pitches into his tackles the moment he gets on.

Or maybe it’s firing him up to play like he does when he comes off the bench?

OPModric · Jan 14, 2020

jeremystorey said:
Let this saga be a cautionary tale to other players who find themselves in a similar situation.
He wanted to leave and felt that his next logical destination was either Real or Barca. 'Cos apparently he thought he was good enough to play for them. With time running out on his existing contract, he decided to run it down to a year, in the hope of reducing the transfer price... knowing full well that Levy would be asking for the world and more. However, he didn't want to squander potential opportunities, so he approached each game he played with caution. No matter what, he wasn't going to get injured and compromise his chances at fulfilling his childhood dream. As a result of this, he played like absolute cack for over a year. Seemingly unaware that this would injure his reputation. And therefore reduce the likelihood of Real or Barca coming in for him. He convinced himself they'd see through his malaise and come in for him last summer. He waited. Waited some more. And waited some more. And then the final seconds of the TW came to an end. And that was that. He was stuck at Spurs for at least until January. So now, he and his agent changed tack. How about instead, they run done his contract fully, and then maybe Real or Barca and perhaps now, Juve and PSG too would come-a-calling. All he had to do was sign a preagreement in January. He convinced himself this would be the case. So, again he approached each game with caution and trepidation. Playing even worse than he did the previous year. Yet again, ignorantly oblivious of how this would be perceived by would be benefactors. So, he gets to January. He waits and waits again. This time his agent tells him that there's no chance now that any of the Euro giants signing him. Apparently too many red flags in terms of his behavior and application. In short... he was deemed not good enough. So, what now? He couldn't back down and sign for Spurs again. Surely not. The dye was cast. He had very few options, other than to tell his agent... get me a deal with a second tier team. Just not in the PL. And that, my friends led him to Inter. A team that hadn't been mentioned in the same sentence with his name up until now. A team he never envisaged himself playing for, but now had no other option. He gambled on himself and lost massively. His reputation is pretty much maligned at this point. So, let this be a lesson; don't act like a petulant bitch who's better than everyone else. 'Cos that shit'll eventually bite you on the ass.

The End.

Fiction. We don't know why he has lost his form. Personally I think its more probable he is burned out or he has a problem with his stomach (as Hareide said), he just looks completly out of energy.

ATZR · Jan 14, 2020

Apologies for the dumb question, but is there any credence to the rumors that Vertonghen slept with Eriksen's wife? (Or the rumors regarding an alleged bust up or other issues with teammates regarding Eriksen)

Or have I been trolled by my fellow Interisti..

theShiznit · Jan 14, 2020

ATZR said:
Apologies for the dumb question, but is there any credence to the rumors that Vertonghen slept with Eriksen's wife? (Or the rumors regarding an alleged bust up or other issues with teammates regarding Eriksen)

Or have I been trolled by my fellow Interisti..

Apparently it was part of the Tottenham Platinum Membership pack. :sneaky:

archiewasking · Jan 14, 2020

ATZR said:
Apologies for the dumb question, but is there any credence to the rumors that Vertonghen slept with Eriksen's wife? (Or the rumors regarding an alleged bust up or other issues with teammates regarding Eriksen)

Or have I been trolled by my fellow Interisti..

All true. A&C was in the wardrobe and has pictures. PM him for the evidence

soflapaul · Jan 14, 2020

OPModric said:
Fiction. We don't know why he has lost his form. Personally I think its more probable he is burned out or he has a problem with his stomach (as Hareide said), he just looks completly out of energy.

This is all conjecture (on my part) and suspect the factors you mention play a bigger part than what most realize. The one curious point is the timeline. If he told the club he was planning on leaving four years ago at the end of the contract, then he had to have made his decision 4-5 years ago. I would have thought his performances would have dropped off sooner than they did. If what you wrote has any legs, then it could be that his mindset wasn't strong enough to overcome whatever the issues are.

Another curious point is that the two individuals who demand dedication, Poch and Jose, continue to play him in spite of the fact that he is leaving. That would suggest that whatever the problem is, the coaches are more understanding of it than those of us that don't know the details. As i have always said, if he is intent on leaving, then i want him out the door asap. But i will always be appreciative of what he did for the club because it had a direct bearing on the Spurs resurgence.

McFlash · Jan 14, 2020

ATZR said:
Apologies for the dumb question, but is there any credence to the rumors that Vertonghen slept with Eriksen's wife? (Or the rumors regarding an alleged bust up or other issues with teammates regarding Eriksen)

Or have I been trolled by my fellow Interisti..

Pretty sure that was all internet fuelled nonsense.
Eriksen has always been a popular member of the squad which is why, even after lack of form and wanting to leave, he still gets picked to play.
He's not the most outgoing personality but he trains hard and seems to get on with everyone.
You'll get a bloody good player, he just needs a change of scenary to get his mojo back.

SpartanSpur · Jan 14, 2020

ATZR said:
Hello guys.

The latest reports from Italy is that Marotta (Inter's CEO/Sporting Director) has made a first offer of €8-10m. (Don't shoot the messenger.) Marotta is an excellent director but known to be a bit miserly.

Naturally, you'd expect the first lowball offer to get rejected and for negotiations to go from there.

This past year we haven't "saved" much in our transfers. We've ended up paying nearly the full asking price for most of our arrivals, albeit mitigated by the way the transfer is structured.

For example, we paid around €50m for Nicolo Barella. If I recall correctly, the deal was structured as €15m loan fee + €32m obligation + €3m in easily-met bonuses.. or something along those lines.

If this deal gets done, I'd expect us to pay pretty close to original €20m asking price in some form or another.

______________________________________________________________

I'm reluctant to weigh in on the debate over Inter and the "size" of the club and all of that stuff. All I will say is that I believe Serie A has increased it's stock in the eyes of footballers in recent years - as has Inter.

We've recently exited a banter decade (fingers crossed) with a new, solid, management structure (unlike Milan). We have a financially powerful ownership in the Suning Group helping us achieve record levels of revenue from sponsorship and financial growth.

There are also new tax laws in Italy which allow new residents over a certain income threshold to pay less tax. Previously, clubs would have to pay €8m gross for a player to earn €4.5m net after tax (rounding up here). With these new laws, the club would only have to pay €7m or so (again, rounding up). This helps Italian clubs to compete with other leagues in better economies in paying top wages.

Overall, even as cynical as I am in my view towards Italy and Serie A, I believe that Serie A and Inter are a much more attractive destination than they were 5 years ago.

Appreciate the info, I think Di Marzio is likely to be on the money when he said the deal will be something like 15m plus add ons, which would tie in with your assessment of recent dealings.

I think that's a very balanced and fair assessment of the 'sideways step' debate. I think the 'banter era' as you suggest it is the only real reason it is looked at in that way. Football is often a 'what have you done lately' game and Inter and AC Milan have been in the doldrums for way too long.

I am early thirties now and do remember when the Milan clubs were powerhouses, but young players coming through will not remember that. Juventus' dominance has made the other Italian clubs look weaker and the more regular appearances of Roma and Napoli in recent CL campaigns has taken the sheen off of Inter further. Back in that early 2000s period I remember Celtic and to a lesser extent Rangers having some competitive teams on the European stage, however the league has become a joke.

I understand why some Inter fans have been outraged by this statement as the trophy cabinet is a lot more impressive and right now you are in a title battle, however in reality I would still fancy our chances of going head to head with Inter over a player, and this unique Eriksen situation aside, I wouldn't imagine Inter could come and pluck one of our top players away, so in that context the sideways step argument has plenty of merit.

Some of the stuff from the Sky reporter said was pretty factual to be fair :

Better finances - Turnover per today's Deloitte report is 150m Euro higher, although Inter have the advantage of wealthy owners that are willing to put funds in

CL participation - Simple fact is we are playing in the last 16 and Inter are not, however Inter look nailed on for participation next year and we don't. We have had a lot more exposure from the CL in recent years compared to Inter however, that gets noticed by players.

PL stature - I do think there is a disparity between the status of the PL and the quality of it, however it currently is a much more wealthy and competitive league right now. I do agree there seems to be a bit of a Serie A revival right now though.

Better Facilities - As legendary as the San Siro is, our new stadium speaks for itself. Our training ground and lodge are state of the art too. Despite the smaller capacity I'm sure our matchday revenue is higher too.

Despite all that I think it's a cracking move for Eriksen despite not being his dream one in Spain. It's a new adventure and one with a lot of merit. If he can recover his old form Inter have an absolute bargain on their hands.

I can't imagine anyone would call AC Milan a step up right now, but again they are a far more successful club historically than us. I think Inter need another couple of years making a splash in the CL before they will get the back to their true status in the eyes of many, especially outside of Italy.

Hotspur1978 · Jan 14, 2020

Ron Burgundy · Jan 14, 2020

I'd take £8m and get rid. He's getting in the way

Indisguise · Jan 14, 2020

What a lamentable drama this whole situation has unnecessarily turned into. Can't wait to see the back of him whilst at the same time I'm sorry to see him go.

Ron Burgundy · Jan 14, 2020

Indisguise said:
What a lamentable drama this whole situation has unnecessarily turned into. Can't wait to see the back of him whilst at the same time I'm sorry to see him go.

Yup. This is a player that we would have been gutted to lose for over £100m not that long ago.

Such a shame

SpartanSpur · Jan 14, 2020

Ron Burgundy said:
Yup. This is a player that we would have been gutted to lose for over £100m not that long ago.

Such a shame

The inter fan in here says they are known for trying to be hard negotiators but usually end up paying near full price anyway. Think Ed Woodward. Is suspect this gets resolved near the close of the window at around 15m.

Gspurs11 · Jan 14, 2020

Apparently PSG would pay the full £25m we're demanding to take him now. Could be a bargaining ploy to get Inter to cough up.

Ron Burgundy · Jan 14, 2020

I'd sell him to Tehran FC right now - whoever comes in just get rid. He's stopping players with genuine hunger from playing.

Right now we need that

Gassin's finest · Jan 14, 2020

I'm sorry to see the player of 6 seasons go. One of the best players I've seen in a spurs shirt in 30 years.

The current player is just wasting a place on the pitch and needs to move on.

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