RikkiRocket
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That’s Crackers.
ENIC in or out?
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That’s Crackers.
dudu
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Look, I'm not saying that there isn't brand exposure that comes with Jose, of course, there is. We have been all over the news for days on end and Jose is indeed prime time but there is no way in hell that he has been appointed PURELY for brand exposure.
The same way that I don't think he has been appointed for PURELY footballing reasons. Raising our profile in the sporting world is imperative to our success both on and off the pitch. In Jose, we have a manager who can benefit us in both areas. I would have just thought this would be one thing that 99% of people could admit that Levy has actually done right.
Lighty64
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Thought Man City did actually purchase it in the end for 30 odd mill
spursfan77
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Just wondering, how much money have they taken out of the club since they’ve owned it?
They’re hardly the Glaziers!
sausage
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Nope, Manchester City Council own it
Shadydan
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ENIC don't really care about winning trophies but they hire a manager who has won more trophies in his managerial career than the entire history of the club.
Makes sense
tiger666
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I give you credit for correctly using the phrase "couldn't care less". The rest is arse-water.
RichieS
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Even if Lewis did own the club (he doesn't), I still don't understand why he should be obliged to provide direct funding. I support ENIC's ownership of the club as it has been transformative - THFC in 2019 is unrecognisable from what existed in 2001 - and they have got us into a position to challenge sustainably for the big prizes.
Joe Lewis is the majority shareholder of ENIC(70.6%) with the remaining belonging to a trust in the name of Daniel Levy’s family(29.4%). ENIC owns 85.55% of the club. In essence, it’s very much fair to say that Joe Lewis is the majority owner of the club. Somehow, Tavistock(another investment company owned by Joe Lewis) is involved, as proven by their website, but dont ask me how.
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My penny's worth? Any one who says that ENIC / Levy have no ambition for the club, have never backed Poch, and is using the club as a cash cow and therefore should be replaced, in my book are simpletons with an IQ the size of their respective shoes.
SpursSince1980
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Very much in.
Yeah, there's some shit that can be annoying, but they have built out an ambitious project as you will ever see in Sports. And they've done it without leasing out the soul of the club or gambling the future away so that we can win now. No, they have built this thing to last, endure and be successful, without depending on a gazillionaire with limitless funds.
Yeah, there's some shit that can be annoying, but they have built out an ambitious project as you will ever see in Sports. And they've done it without leasing out the soul of the club or gambling the future away so that we can win now. No, they have built this thing to last, endure and be successful, without depending on a gazillionaire with limitless funds.
NEVILLEB
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Mourinho will live or die by our transfer strategy.
There were a lot of poor/average signings during Pochettino’s time and this needs to be fixed now.
How anyone can ridicule this post is crazy.
Enic have had opportunities under both Redknapp and Pochettino to invest a title push and they never spent the money.
They spend money when they are scared of losing Champions League football.
There were a lot of poor/average signings during Pochettino’s time and this needs to be fixed now.
How anyone can ridicule this post is crazy.
Enic have had opportunities under both Redknapp and Pochettino to invest a title push and they never spent the money.
They spend money when they are scared of losing Champions League football.
spids
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We have the best owners in the premier league. They have built us arguably the best training facilities in Europe, the best stadium in the world, and we have built a squad to challenge for honours .... all without financial doping or using dirty money. Was also have an incredible sustainable business model with serious income streams that take pressure off the pitch. The NFL games, concerts, e-sports tournaments, boxing ... will all generate serious money that will differentiate us from Arsenal for decades.
I apprecIate the last few years they have not focussed on investing in the first XI as much as they could have, replacing Walker, Rose, Dembele and Wanyama seen by many as a reason for our decline. But the infrastructure had to be prioritised, and for good reason. We’re starting to see this pay dividends by being able to pay Mourinho £15m a year.
My major criticism is of Levy’s negotiating style. He squeezes too much blood out of a stone and his inability to get deals concluded quickly affects the first XI, especially when it comes to not moving on deadwood so we can sign key players in time for pre-season.
I apprecIate the last few years they have not focussed on investing in the first XI as much as they could have, replacing Walker, Rose, Dembele and Wanyama seen by many as a reason for our decline. But the infrastructure had to be prioritised, and for good reason. We’re starting to see this pay dividends by being able to pay Mourinho £15m a year.
My major criticism is of Levy’s negotiating style. He squeezes too much blood out of a stone and his inability to get deals concluded quickly affects the first XI, especially when it comes to not moving on deadwood so we can sign key players in time for pre-season.
LeParisien
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You dont object to them spending a lot of money to rescue the possibility of champions league qualification do you ? You think that’s a good thing too right ?
It seemed almost like a criticism the way you said it ...
Also when you say “spend money” you are only talking about “on transfer fees” but ENIC have spent a huge amount of money on the club. More than City. More than Chelsea. More than United. They’ve spent it sensibly on things that will allow us to compete for 50 + years ie on the worlds best training ground and stadium.
Yes that’s frustrating when we’ve been close to winning titles but the infrastructure investment has largely been done and payments are affordable. So we will see investment in the playing squad and that started in the summer. And we’ll have done it without compromising the future of the club. Well be rich and have a great team. Having been shit when ENIC took over.
That’s good going and I’m glad it was them not some of the brains on here in charge.
Can such people tell us who would buy us and then provide the funds they seem to feel ENIC should ?
Capocrimini
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People really take Levy and co for granted. The strides we have made as a club in the last 20 years has been incredible. The "bUt wHeRe aRe yOuR tRoPhIeS" is such irrelevant standard to follow in modern football. If that is your sole measure of success for your club, I would question what are yoi doing here?
Take Levy out the equation we dont hire Jol, we dont hire Redknapp and we dont hire Poch. Those 3 reigns are where the club pushed up another level. None of us at the peak of those respective reigns imagined we would ever get there. Yes they dont spend vs the other top 6 on players, however through infastructure development we are now an elite club.
Trophies will come, and the hiring of Jose whilst it has made me slightly sick, at the same time shows the ambition and monumentous shift in club stature vs the early 2000s.
I feel like we have a significant fan base that for lack of s better word just come across childish.
Take Levy out the equation we dont hire Jol, we dont hire Redknapp and we dont hire Poch. Those 3 reigns are where the club pushed up another level. None of us at the peak of those respective reigns imagined we would ever get there. Yes they dont spend vs the other top 6 on players, however through infastructure development we are now an elite club.
Trophies will come, and the hiring of Jose whilst it has made me slightly sick, at the same time shows the ambition and monumentous shift in club stature vs the early 2000s.
I feel like we have a significant fan base that for lack of s better word just come across childish.
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Not that long ago........
Was that really necessary?
The question is more complicated than a few of you give it credit for. There's been a couple of times at least where pretty much universally, SC has railed against Levy for not investing (in the team) at what were seen as crucial times to give us that extra push. Wether or not such investment would have worked we'll never know but by not doing it, they left themselves open to some criticism regarding ambition. Isn't that fair enough?
Criticism which, right up until the club appointed Mourinho, some of you now ridiculing all this were massively on board with and should we be seen to fail again to invest at yet another crucial time, you'll all be back sniping at him again.
Of course, there is some stuff that's over the top or unjustified but some of the above has stuck and influenced people's onions, even so that doesn't mean there's not a fair point hidden away in there somewhere.
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