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What Our Opponents' Fans Are Saying About Us 19/20

dagraham

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They're both intelligent men, Levy knows what Mourinho is like and vice versa.
I would hope this sort of thing would've been discussed at length during negotiations and agreements made, otherwise as you say its pointless and neither of them will come out of it with any credit.

yeah agree, although it’s easy to say things with the best intentions. I guess I’m just cynical when it comes to Spurs ( in fact most things actually these days ).
 

teedee

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Conversely I know loads of Chelsea fans in Brazil and I always meet Arsenal fans wherever I go. All talking about admiration for Wenger, Lampard, etc etc.

It baffles my mind why but proves that people admire successful clubs just as well.

I've also had non-Brits refer to Spurs as a 'nice' club. Fuck that, I want people saying we're a GREAT CLUB

Yep. Don't be nice, be nasty. Jose will help with that.
 

Bobbins

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May 5, 2005
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As I said to another poster, you must care, otherwise you wouldn't be entering a thread like this one. You entered the thread to know what opponent thinks but then you don't care.

I never said it mattered btw. Just pointed out what a lot of people think.
I can assure you though that Levy cares about popularity. There's money in being popular. Besides being popular/liked is not mutually exclusive with being successful

You're making a completely false equivalence - being interested in something isn't remotely the same as caring about it.

I might find comments from other fans funny, enlightening, cringe-worthy or any number of other things that make them interesting to me - but it doesn't mean for one second I even slightly care about anything they're saying.

I also don't care what Levy thinks is important. And if he's worried about popularity, then he needs to start questioning why the most successful teams are often the most hated. Jealousy and bitterness are very good signs you're doing something right - and they usually happen when you're winning. At the same time you usually also get admiration from afar - which is why there are so many more Arsenal/Liverpool/United supporters overseas than there are Spurs fans.
 

Mr Pink

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Aug 25, 2010
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Weird they are so pessimistic. I’m far from convinced we will win.

They're pessimistic, because they've been dreadful.

Admittedly we've been as well but we've got the new manager bounce and more in Mourinho.

We're superior all over the park so I can see why they're not exactly optimistic.
 

rossdapep

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Aug 25, 2011
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You're making a completely false equivalence - being interested in something isn't remotely the same as caring about it.

I might find comments from other fans funny, enlightening, cringe-worthy or any number of other things that make them interesting to me - but it doesn't mean for one second I even slightly care about anything they're saying.

I also don't care what Levy thinks is important. And if he's worried about popularity, then he needs to start questioning why the most successful teams are often the most hated. Jealousy and bitterness are very good signs you're doing something right - and they usually happen when you're winning. At the same time you usually also get admiration from afar - which is why there are so many more Arsenal/Liverpool/United supporters overseas than there are Spurs fans.
Yep.

If you think about Liverpool, everyone I know who isn't a supporter of them either hates them or finds them cringey and not to be respected.

Yet, in Europe, everyone I speak to references them as a great club, admires them and talks about how amazing they're football is.

If we start winning and start being a major problem for other teams, then in the UK we'll get more haters but in Europe and afar people will like us and respect us.

Conor McGregor is a good example. Hated by a lot of people but equally loads of people loved him and admired him. Probably more than any other MMA fighter in history.

Mourinho understands the psychology behind it, to be really successful you have to ruffle a few feathers and piss others off. You'll still earn respect and admiration.

Bring on more Battle of the Bridges I say.
 

spursgirls

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Aug 13, 2008
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I'm struggling to understand where you're going with this.

He lived in a hotel in Manchester for the 2.5 years he managed United because it would be too far to commute from London.
I know. They seemed to suggest he stayed up there. I guess I misunderstood!
 

spursgirls

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Aug 13, 2008
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It’s been a busy week for all of us
True, so many snippets on tv, not all heard completely. This week has been mad hasn't it? I still can't really believe it all! I can't even work out how I feel about tomorrow's game. Worried? confident? hopeful? excited? It's a strange time at Tottenham.
 

Ionman34

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Jun 1, 2011
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True, so many snippets on tv, not all heard completely. This week has been mad hasn't it? I still can't really believe it all! I can't even work out how I feel about tomorrow's game. Worried? confident? hopeful? excited? It's a strange time at Tottenham.
The last 2 for me. I never really bought the “boring anti Football” rhetoric about Mourinho, it all started with his first spell at Chelsea but, correct me if I’m wrong, that team racked up a record amount of goals and their goal difference was unreal. If I remember correctly, Cech got the golden gloves and they averaged better than 2 goals a game over the season. The fallacy that his Football was “boring” came from the fact that they overwhelmed teams, the neutral would find it boring because the opposition weren’t really offering anything, so it was less of a contest. The Chelsea fans loved it though.

I’m hopeful that he brings that to us and excited about exactly that too. We’ll still get the contests against the better sides, but I’m hopeful that he brings that “putting them to the sword” with the “lesser” teams that sees us racking up goals and points in the same way he did with Chelsea in his first spell. I’m also hopeful that his introspective sabbatical gives us a more balanced Mourinho with the baggage left behind. In his presser he alluded to his DNA and that he still hates to lose. If that mindset remains, but is balanced by a more even keeled Mourinho then I’m truly excited about our prospects.

He said in his presser that we won’t win the title this season, but we could win it next season. I don’t know about anyone else, but that sent a shiver up my spine.

I was kind of on the fence when he was announced, for the obvious reason that we all know his history, but I’m finding myself more and more excited at what I want to believe he will bring us.

I am truly looking forward to the coming weeks.
 

Lighty64

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Aug 24, 2010
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Spot on and Jose realised this which is why he was waiting for the right move this time and the timing couldn’t be much better for him to take the role at spurs tbh.

also regardless of that he came 2nd at Utd to peps 100pt man.city and he won 3 trophies so hardly a massive failure especially compared to how all other managers have done since fergie.

he won 2, unless you really count the community shield as a trophy, and beating Southampton in the final thanks to a massive cock up ruling a Southampton goal out
 

Gb160

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Jun 20, 2012
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he won 2, unless you really count the community shield as a trophy, and beating Southampton in the final thanks to a massive cock up ruling a Southampton goal out
That's 1 more than we've won in the last 20 years Lighty.

I feel a bit sorry for you, that if Jose does get us over the line, you won't be able to celebrate or enjoy it because of this weird, unhealthy bitterness that you're harbouring.
I know I take the piss and whatnot, but Its sad that any Spus fan should be in this position.
 

spursgirls

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The last 2 for me. I never really bought the “boring anti Football” rhetoric about Mourinho, it all started with his first spell at Chelsea but, correct me if I’m wrong, that team racked up a record amount of goals and their goal difference was unreal. If I remember correctly, Cech got the golden gloves and they averaged better than 2 goals a game over the season. The fallacy that his Football was “boring” came from the fact that they overwhelmed teams, the neutral would find it boring because the opposition weren’t really offering anything, so it was less of a contest. The Chelsea fans loved it though.

I’m hopeful that he brings that to us and excited about exactly that too. We’ll still get the contests against the better sides, but I’m hopeful that he brings that “putting them to the sword” with the “lesser” teams that sees us racking up goals and points in the same way he did with Chelsea in his first spell. I’m also hopeful that his introspective sabbatical gives us a more balanced Mourinho with the baggage left behind. In his presser he alluded to his DNA and that he still hates to lose. If that mindset remains, but is balanced by a more even keeled Mourinho then I’m truly excited about our prospects.

He said in his presser that we won’t win the title this season, but we could win it next season. I don’t know about anyone else, but that sent a shiver up my spine.

I was kind of on the fence when he was announced, for the obvious reason that we all know his history, but I’m finding myself more and more excited at what I want to believe he will bring us.

I am truly looking forward to the coming weeks.
Interestingly, I saw a stat the other day that said at Utd, Jose's goals per game average was 1.87. Poch's goals per game average at Spurs was....1.87!
 

Shadydan

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Jul 7, 2012
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he won 2, unless you really count the community shield as a trophy, and beating Southampton in the final thanks to a massive cock up ruling a Southampton goal out

3 you missed out Europa League.

Yeah go on...Weakest Europa League for some time, crap teams blah blah :D
 
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