Jose Mourinho
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Irregardless of how we might feel about Jose or his style of play, his track record in terms of titles cannot be denied. He has won something any every single club he has managed.
That is something that our club does not have . We have won nothing for too many years. We need to start win something to at least plant the seeds of a winning mentality in our club. For too often I feel the club has the mentality that we will eventually win something rather then we want to win something
I could do with a year or 2 of boring football just so the players and the club knows how it feels like to finally have a trophy. That in the long term would be good for the club
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That is something that our club does not have . We have won nothing for too many years. We need to start win something to at least plant the seeds of a winning mentality in our club. For too often I feel the club has the mentality that we will eventually win something rather then we want to win something
I could do with a year or 2 of boring football just so the players and the club knows how it feels like to finally have a trophy. That in the long term would be good for the club
Will Jose Mourinho be a success at Tottenham Hotspur? -
Jose Mourinho looks set to be the successor to Mauricio Pochettino at Tottenham. Can the Special One do it once again for a currently deflated Spurs side?
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Man United transfer record:
Summer 18
- Fred, baaaaaad
- Dalot, meh?
Summer 17 + Winter 18
- Lindelof, decent player
- Matic, good one season then fell off
- Lukaku, not good enough
- Sanchez, complete bust & horrible, horrible signing
Summer 16
- Bailly, not good enough
- Ibrahimovic, good signing
- Mkhitaryan, bust
- Pogba, great player but inconsistent
Not exactly exciting reading boys & girls! One good season of Matic, one good season of Ibra, & probably only Pogba in 3 TW windows being the only player United would be happy about signing still to this day. Ibra obviously as well but was on a free.
Summer 18
- Fred, baaaaaad
- Dalot, meh?
Summer 17 + Winter 18
- Lindelof, decent player
- Matic, good one season then fell off
- Lukaku, not good enough
- Sanchez, complete bust & horrible, horrible signing
Summer 16
- Bailly, not good enough
- Ibrahimovic, good signing
- Mkhitaryan, bust
- Pogba, great player but inconsistent
Not exactly exciting reading boys & girls! One good season of Matic, one good season of Ibra, & probably only Pogba in 3 TW windows being the only player United would be happy about signing still to this day. Ibra obviously as well but was on a free.
And very few of those were Jose signings.
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Really? I don't remember signing by signing but I'd imagine Pogba, Ibra, Mkhitaryan, Sanchez, Matic, Lukaku, & Fred all full on his players. Unsure on the defenders.
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It does raise questions, to be sure. Particularly the aging players on massive wages like Matic, Ibra, Mkhitaryan, and Sanchez. Those players were either outright disasters or had brief periods of effectiveness before they declined precipitously or fucked off to a retirement league. We absolutely cannot afford to operate that way, and if Mourinho hasn't agreed on the front end that we simply won't be chasing that kind of target it will inevitably lead to disaster. Levy is no fool, so if the denizens of SC have identified it as a problem I'm nearly certain the issue will have been addressed over the past week as we were seeking our new manager.
Some of the other signings are less egregious. Baily and Dalot have been absolutely ravaged by injury, so I don't think it's fair to say that Mourinho failed to scout them well. Lindelof has been quite decent, and Fred was coveted by every big club in the world and has simply floundered, as happens from time to time. Overall that group shows a willingness to bring in young, talented players on reasonable fees, so it's not entirely groundless to hope that he may be willing to operate on that basis at Spurs.
I'll remain open-minded until we see who he targets in the transfer market, if it's Ibra and Javi Martinez there will be reason to panic but there's no point in getting ahead of ourselves. It would be nothing less than gross negligence for Levy not to have hashed out the transfer philosophy before moving forward with this hire, but then it wouldn't be the first time that Levy was negligent with regard to transfers. Here's hoping they hashed this out.
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Levy won't let mourinho buy old players which is good. Plus most of our squad are experienced in this league.
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Bailly was great but injury prone.
Anyway I feel many are missing the point, Utd needed to rebuild as their squad was horrible, I don't think we're in that much need of a rebuild personally.
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Every team that Jose manages plays the same way. Some call it parking the bus but I see it more as organised counter attacking.
We're likely to see a much more direct style of play and you're likely to see us play a little deeper than normal. This may actually suit us if we play a front three of Son Kane and a creative player. The midfield will be aggressive, physical and will play the ball forward fast to exploit mistakes so expect Ndombele, Sissoko and someone who can anchor the team to come in January. Then the defence? There first job will be to defend so I suspect we'll see the solid players like Davies ahead of Rose.
He's not a big believer in holding on to the ball for no good reason. When you have the ball you look to exploit the space first and foremost don't waste time. I think we'll look like his first Chelsea side if I have to draw a comparison
It won't be pretty but it will be effective.
We're likely to see a much more direct style of play and you're likely to see us play a little deeper than normal. This may actually suit us if we play a front three of Son Kane and a creative player. The midfield will be aggressive, physical and will play the ball forward fast to exploit mistakes so expect Ndombele, Sissoko and someone who can anchor the team to come in January. Then the defence? There first job will be to defend so I suspect we'll see the solid players like Davies ahead of Rose.
He's not a big believer in holding on to the ball for no good reason. When you have the ball you look to exploit the space first and foremost don't waste time. I think we'll look like his first Chelsea side if I have to draw a comparison
It won't be pretty but it will be effective.
Apart from Pogba Matic and Zlatan, none of them were. You're right. Mourinho wanted a DoF but Woodward was reluctant to appoint one.
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Depends, if Toby stays now that will maybe lessen the burden to buy a CB. But still going to need to replace Eriksen, buy a DM, RB and figure out LB. Then we'll see what he wants to do with the GK.
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I think there is a little exaggeration here.
Mkhi wasn't bad, not bad at all for man utd. I mean he lost form in his second season, but he got swapped for Sanchez and stagnated at Arsenal.
Lukaku was good under Jose, not great but good and did a job. Tbh Man utd miss him this season. He is not world class but does a job.
Matic similarly was good throughout his time under mourinho. He dipped after but frankly he is not a young player anymore. He was incredibly important in getting Man utd that second place.
Mourinho did not get the signings he wanted in Man utd. He really wanted Toby for example but the board blocked it. The signing issue has been a problem at utd for a long long time predating Jose. I don't think you can fully attribute the problems to him.
Sorry, but Mkhitaryan was terrible and still is. I remember hearing a German jurno on TS saying he was shocked UTD went for him, as he only had 1 good season in the Bundesliga and UTD over paid massively (obviouslynot Jose fault). The good thing for us, is that Levy won't overpay!
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Fair enough I got that wrong but why are you so keen to belittle Mourinho winning things? Have to be honest and say that it’s really odd. Mourinho won two tournaments with a terrible Man U side which is 2 more than Poch has ever won. Give the guy credit where it’s due.
If you don’t like his personality then fair enough but dumbing down his achievements is quite frankly stupid and will make people react negatively to your comments.
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I remember reading somewhere a couple of weeks ago that Fred wasn't a signing Jose wanted. Can't speak for the rest of the list.
18 months ago I'd never have swapped Poch for Jose. Today, it seems reasonable.
Key thing for me is that not to offer him a contract extension when he's doing well. I feel as soon as it's signed, he tries to get himself sacked. (You could argue Poch did similar).
Key thing for me is that not to offer him a contract extension when he's doing well. I feel as soon as it's signed, he tries to get himself sacked. (You could argue Poch did similar).
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Starting at that time... he says he wants to be able to do Klopp & Pep did in terms of improving their squads. Mentions how Pep was able to buy 4 new fullbacks in one summer & Pep able to buy Bravo and then replace Bravo after a year.
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He actually isn’t though?
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Am I the only one who desperately hopes that in conversations Jose expressed how important Ndombele is in his plans?
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