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'O Zio · Nov 13, 2019

Kspur said:
dont know much about it but I’m struggling to understand why that is less attractive than us?

the only important thing there is the money to build a team and it sounds as if they have it?

we certainly don’t (or don’t spend as if we have it)

Their a team that until 10 years ago were playing in some local regional league. They're the equivalent of one of these Isthmian League teams or something. Then they got bought by Red Bull as a PR stunt and just bought their way to the top. They're the equivalent of Chelsea or City, except if instead of some billionaire buying a mid-table PL club, they'd bought Billaricay Town FC or something. It's hardly the stuff of dreams.

Like i say, they're going about things in an interesting way and investing a lot in young players and so on, but managing a "proper" team is massively better than managing a team like that and managing in the PL even more so. I'm not saying he's nailed on to come to us, but the mere fact that he's only been at Leipzig for a year isn't automatically enough to rule him out was my point.

Ghost Hardware · Nov 13, 2019

VancouverSpur said:
RB Leipzig coach Julian Nagelsmann says you're left with no chance as a coach if your players aren't willing to run that extra mile for you.

"You have no chance if the players don't play for you," Nagelsmann told MDR.

When things get exhausting, a player looks to the sidelines and thinks, 'Am I willing to run for him or not?'. You can pack your bags if they don't run for you," he added.

Like this quote from Nagelsmann on Bundesliga news today. Makes me wonder if the players look over to Poch on the touchline and question what they are doing.

Obv best case scenario is Poch turns it around, but I just don't see that happening. My next choice would probably be Jose on a short term contract, end of this season and next, then get Nagelsmann in for the long term from 21/22 . I don't see Jose as a viable long term option but a stint like he had at inter could be a good stop gap. Nagelsmann is the one I really want but he won't leave Lipzig yet. I'm sure BM also really want him as well.

sausage · Nov 13, 2019

talkshowhost86 said:
The stadium and facilities have nothing to do with the success of the manager (in a direct sense anyway).

Our net spending on the playing squad has been nowhere near what Mourinho has spent on all of his squads since Porto.

So my point remains. If he was to be a success at Spurs we'd have to dramatically change our approach and basically spend our way to success.

Levy has always said that the foundations have to be laid first, and we've already seen him green light two ~£60m transfers this summer, so I'm baffled by the concept that we somehow don't spend.

I don't think there are any other clubs in the league that have invested as pragmatically as we have. The way some people talk you'd think that the club looked exactly the same as the day they bought it, when in actual fact it's night and day - and that's down to the money that's been spent building the club.

I don't think that we'd need to spend that much anyway, as we'd be on a better squad starting point than he's had previously

Havre · Nov 13, 2019

This reminds a bit of when AVB got sacked. Who would take over?

I really like ten Hag, but would he join now? I doubt it. I voted Allegri, but this squad is nowhere near ready to play under him in my opinion. Still think he would be a good alternative for longer term success. Nagelsmann similar. This squad would not currently be able to handle all the tactical nuances. Mourinho seems like a much happier man these days, but would he just fall back to old habits after some weeks/months at Spurs?

I'm getting a bit sick of Pochettino, but as long as we are not seriously getting into a survival battle I don't necessarily think we should rush this decision.

Japhet · Nov 13, 2019

Ghost Hardware said:
Obv best case scenario is Poch turns it around, but I just don't see that happening. My next choice would probably be Jose on a short term contract, end of this season and next, then get Nagelsmann in for the long term. I don't see Jose as a viable long term option but a stint like he had at inter could be a good stop gap. Nagelsmann is the one I really want but he won't leave Lipzig yet. I'm sure BM also really want him as well.

Can't see Mourinho going for a contract til the end of the season.

spursfan77 · Nov 13, 2019

Get the best man for the job. Doesn’t matter what it costs. Whether it’s Jose or Nagelsmann the day after Poch goes. If levy thinks that person is the best guy then he needs to go out and get him. In fairness he usually does.

Deleted member 29446 · Nov 13, 2019

spursfan77 said:
Get the best man for the job. Doesn’t matter what it costs. Whether it’s Jose or Nagelsmann the day after Poch goes. If levy thinks that person is the best guy then he needs to go out and get him. In fairness he usually does.

If don't even wanna trust Levy on this one, even though we have no choice.

I think I might start crying if we get Eddie Howe.

spursfan77 · Nov 13, 2019

WhiteDane said:
If don't even wanna trust Levy on this one, even though we have no choice.

I think I might start crying if we get Eddie Howe.

I don’t think he will go for Howe. Maybe 3 years ago he would of but not now. He wants us to be seen as a big champions league club with a big new shiny stadium. Ive been saying this for a while but I suspect he’s approached Mourinho, who doesn’t want the job and now he’s scrambling around trying to get someone else OR he’s going to stick with Poch.

talkshowhost86 · Nov 13, 2019

sausage said:
Levy has always said that the foundations have to be laid first, and we've already seen him green light two ~£60m transfers this summer, so I'm baffled by the concept that we somehow don't spend.

I don't think there are any other clubs in the league that have invested as pragmatically as we have. The way some people talk you'd think that the club looked exactly the same as the day they bought it, when in actual fact it's night and day - and that's down to the money that's been spent building the club.

I don't think that we'd need to spend that much anyway, as we'd be on a better squad starting point than he's had previously

Don't get me wrong I am thrilled with what Levy has done for the club.

When I say we don't spend I mean on players in the way that Mourinho's previous clubs have done so.

Yes we spent money this year, for the first time in a long time. Mourinho wouldn't think it was enough though and the idea that he can somehow do wonders with an existing squad simply doesn't tally with his previous jobs.

Ghost Hardware · Nov 13, 2019

Japhet said:
Can't see Mourinho going for a contract til the end of the season.

Meant end of next season.

Spurslove · Nov 13, 2019

talkshowhost86 said:
Don't get me wrong I am thrilled with what Levy has done for the club.

When I say we don't spend I mean on players in the way that Mourinho's previous clubs have done so.

Yes we spent money this year, for the first time in a long time. Mourinho wouldn't think it was enough though and the idea that he can somehow do wonders with an existing squad simply doesn't tally with his previous jobs.

The perception regarding our alleged reluctance to 'spend big money' on players is, that we don't pay the sort of wages the top top stars are demanding these days.

That's the perception but it doesn't necessarily mean it's right.

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Metalhead · Nov 13, 2019

Ghost Hardware said:
Obv best case scenario is Poch turns it around, but I just don't see that happening. My next choice would probably be Jose on a short term contract, end of this season and next, then get Nagelsmann in for the long term. I don't see Jose as a viable long term option but a stint like he had at inter could be a good stop gap. Nagelsmann is the one I really want but he won't leave Lipzig yet. I'm sure BM also really want him as well.

The one thing is though is that it's hard to imagine Mourinho's ego allowing him to accept a short term contract.

Archibald&Crooks · Nov 13, 2019

Spurslove said:
The perception regarding our alleged reluctance to 'spend big money' on players is, that we don't pay the sort of wages the top top stars are demanding these days.

That's the perception but it doesn't necessarily mean it's right.

.

I believe the perception

When was the last time we signed a 'top top' player? I reckon Klinsmann

Ghost Hardware · Nov 13, 2019

Metalhead said:
The one thing is though is that it's hard to imagine Mourinho's ego allowing him to accept a short term contract.

He went to inter for 2008/2009 won the league then 2009/10 season won the triple then left.

Japhet · Nov 13, 2019

Ghost Hardware said:
Meant end of next season.

OK. Still don't think he'd go for that though.

Hakkz · Nov 13, 2019

Metalhead said:
The one thing is though is that it's hard to imagine Mourinho's ego allowing him to accept a short term contract.

I think he will have to accept that at any club interested. Short term with options to make it long term if he does well and can behave.

dirtyh · Nov 13, 2019

Archibald&Crooks said:
I believe the perception

When was the last time we signed a 'top top' player? I reckon Klinsmann

ndombele is a 'top,top player' but you're right in that it's been ages since we've signed someone already recognised at the highest level. klinsmann just melted peoples faces, probably the equivalent of ronaldo joining now (and no, not the fat one)

Ghost Hardware · Nov 13, 2019

Japhet said:
OK. Still don't think he'd go for that though.

He was only at inter for two seasons so not completely out of the question. Even if we have him two full seasons and the rest of this. Im not sure he would want another project anyway at this point.

Metalhead · Nov 13, 2019

Hakkz said:
I think he will have to accept that at any club interested. Short term with options to make it long term if he does well and can behave.

A two year contract would probably suffice.

Metalhead · Nov 13, 2019

Ghost Hardware said:
He went to inter for 2008/2009 won the league then 2009/10 season won the triple then left.

Was it actually a short term contract? Can't see him accepting an offer from DL of managing until the end of the season. Someone like Hoddle or Redknapp would.

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