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Me and @punkisback are discussing, not complaining.Complaining about a post rating is silly, just move on![]()
People moaning about people complaining when they are discussing is silly, move on.
Me and @punkisback are discussing, not complaining.Complaining about a post rating is silly, just move on![]()
Me and @punkisback are discussing, not complaining.
People moaning about people complaining when they are discussing is silly, move on.
This just reminds me of the Ross-a-tron nickname from Friends, which was awful itself. Let's not use this, eh?
Welcome to SCComplaining about a post rating is silly, just move on![]()
Difficult times but a team with this man, LoCelso, the Sessinator, Kane, Son, Deli... Can surely achieve something great sooner rather than never
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I think @punkisback was respectful and conscientious in his comment, and I highly doubt he’s averse to people disagreeing with him so long as they do so respectfully and in a constructive way.
@tiger666 what do you mean WTF is it difficult for you to discern meaning from words?
You deserve more than that for "The Sessinator"
You deserve more than that for "The Sessinator"
I read that and all I heard was this...I hate the horses , the greyhounds , Formula One...well all the formulas , Marathons, Tour de France and athletic track events.. Oh yeah and the wallys going round in circles in the Velodrome .. but I'm not racist![]()
As a blackman I both agree with and applaud your post!!I understand what you mean, but I still disagree mate. You make the same point as the original poster in essence. You are saying that the term beast is fair in sports, but when used to describe a black player "it is often to the implied exclusion of more intellectual traits". Whilst there are occasions where this may be true, especially in Ndombele's case, it couldn't be further from the truth. Everyone I think is in agreement that Ndombele's main attributes are his intellect and his technique. So why would "beast" be an issue? It isn't, plainly. As another poster mentioned, your race is irrelevant in the context of this argument. No one has made a characterisation of Ndombele based on the colour of his skin. If they had, then your personal point of view wouldn't only be relevant, it would be crucial.
Consider Liverpool's banner of Origi or Silva's Mendy post. I'd listen to your personal view there with great interest and form my own opinion based on what you feel. But in this particular case, yours or anyone else's race is completely irrelevant IMO. There was no characterisation made on race. A black person turned it into a discussion about race.
And I can, for the life of me I can, understand why this has happened. In a society filled with subconscious racism (which is the worst kind as it usually comes from educated individuals), there should be rigid scrutiny of terminology and lexicology used. But we shouldn't be hunting for discrimination in used terms. Someone who hears someone describe a magnificent technical footballer like Ndombele with the word beast, and thinks of his colour, is the person who in his own subconscious is thinking of the player's colour! That's my point.
Hence why I said if this term was used in the Sissoko thread to a similar reaction, I'd perhaps understand any potential grievances, as Sissoko's main attribute happens to be his physical prowess. Not because he's black, but because he's a strong fucker!
I sincerely hope you can understand what I mean. I really do. I'm not sweeping racism or subconscious racism under any carpets here. I'm saying that we shouldn't look for it where it doesn't exist, as that's perhaps discriminatory in itself.
He pulled up early in the half then seemed to struggle a little for the rest of the half.Was he injured?
Fuck. Hopefully he'll pull out of the French team then and get fit.Saw him few minutes ago, with Moussa. Said hamstring pulled tight.
Tony Gale is a Spurs hating idiot. Even when I have the tv volume off when he's 'analysing' our matches. I still feel his hatred of Spurs coming through.Tony Gale's comment about him was pretty funny in light of the discussion in here this week
And for that midfielder to get injured.Didn't take us long to completely rely on another midfielder haha