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24 votes for a bus conductor to be our next manager, WTF?!
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my problem with Poch is that the players that are running down their contracts or are wanting out =Eriksen/ Aurier/ Vertonghen/Alerwield/ Rose are the main culprits with underperforming and for me he must stop including them not only in the team but the squad .
The players that would come in for them Foyth/Tanganga/ Sessegnon / LE Celso /Winks / Parrot in my eyes would be an improvement on the dross these want out players are producing . The argument about who is better does not come into it in my opinion as it should be who is going to give 100% commitment . Don't get me started on Eriksen he is like a cancer and should not be anywhere near the first team squad .Will the play get better with these youngsters playing instead of the old guard ? who knows but performances like yesterday would be more acceptable than playing these players who for whatever reason are not giving anything like their best.
The players that would come in for them Foyth/Tanganga/ Sessegnon / LE Celso /Winks / Parrot in my eyes would be an improvement on the dross these want out players are producing . The argument about who is better does not come into it in my opinion as it should be who is going to give 100% commitment . Don't get me started on Eriksen he is like a cancer and should not be anywhere near the first team squad .Will the play get better with these youngsters playing instead of the old guard ? who knows but performances like yesterday would be more acceptable than playing these players who for whatever reason are not giving anything like their best.
muppetman
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Vastly? Really? I'd say there isn't a huge amount in it personally - they have a couple of clangers but so do we, they have a couple of top notch players and so do we and lastly, they have a fair few who aren't at the level needed to push for top 4/cups and so do we.
WiganSpur
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Our defence is much better than theirs as well as our creative options. Other than that in other positions we are no worse.
dagraham
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No, it’s far off, but far enough. If you take the whole season Watford haven’t won a single game and Norwich and Soton have lost 6 and 8, with a horrific goal difference.
I’m just saying we’re shit, but not that shit.
stevenurse
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One thing that I haven't seen mentioned alongside the 'give Poch til the end of the season' argument is that
1. We've basically fucked it already, barring a miraculous run or implosion of epic proportions from those up there now
2. Those mega names mentioned, are we still going to be as attractive if we're playing FC Mordor on a Thursday night? Both to players and Managers.
Keep hearing about sorting it next summer. What on earth makes people believe that CL quality players would join us in an absolute state, or that those currently at the club could scout any decent talent? The players we brought in during the summer were all well known. Clarke has been a disaster.
1. We've basically fucked it already, barring a miraculous run or implosion of epic proportions from those up there now
2. Those mega names mentioned, are we still going to be as attractive if we're playing FC Mordor on a Thursday night? Both to players and Managers.
Keep hearing about sorting it next summer. What on earth makes people believe that CL quality players would join us in an absolute state, or that those currently at the club could scout any decent talent? The players we brought in during the summer were all well known. Clarke has been a disaster.
JonnySpurs
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Not that many people, no. That said I just wanted to put it out there quite early on that nobody should be thinking he'd be an option for us because he most certainly wouldn't.
muppetman
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Have to agree to disagree here I think, we are shipping goals (Bayern!!) so I'm not convinced we are so much better defensively and as for creative options surely the demise of Eriksen and knock on effects of this should show how lacking we are here? I think our front players are pretty much on par, both have sub standard midfields and the defences are suspect.
Hopefully the introduction of Lo Celso and improved fitness of Ndombele will see improvements here but then again maybe Ozil will come out of retirement for them?!?!?
stevenurse
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Goals conceded would disagree that our defence is much better. Our defence is as much, if not more of shambles than theirs. I'd swap for their fullbacks in a heartbeat
Joeyboey
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I agree, however would you back us in a scrap with our current mentality? I wouldn’t.
sausage
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Ridiculously harsh on Howe.
He's essentially taken a League Two team with a -17 point start all the way up to being a stable PL side that knows how to play against the top teams, all with the infrastructure of a league two side (Inc stadium), and a squad much worse than most PL sides.
I have to wonder what young managers like him need to do to convince anyone they can manage a bigger club.
Even if he's not our choice over big names, he's very likely to smash it when steps up imo.
Shadydan
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How's next step is a club like Everton or Leicester, not us.
WiganSpur
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We are shipping goals because of Poch. You honestly think Toby, Verts, Dier, Sanchez, Foyth, Davies, even Aurier are bad players. We arguably have the best centre halves in the league.
Gb160
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Exactly, we should be looking at elite level managers, not up and coming prospects.
dagraham
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No, you’re right. If we were to drop into the bottom three I would be concerned we don’t have the stomach for a fight.
muppetman
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I think Toby and particularly Jan are now showing their age but that could be down to the manager and system of play. I have high hopes for Foyth and Sanchez but they are understandably not the finished article and so make mistakes. Davies is steady and Aurier I'm not at all convinced by. As for Dier, who knows what's going on there - it feels like more than a year since he has played regularly.
I think in lots of ways Jan and Toby in particular (and our defence more generally) are performing badly as they don't have a prime Dier/Wanyama/Dembele in front to shield them. Now if that's down to bad luck, lack of investment or Poch I just don't know.
I think it's always easy to blame the manager for everything and he is clearly making mistakes but I think you rate players are quite a bit higher than I do which is fair enough - onions and all that.
southlondonyiddo
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shelfmonkey
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100% bang on sir???
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