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King Ledley 26

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If we go young it would be Jesse Marsch for me. Unfortunately, I could see Bayern bringing him back as head coach.

Still, I don't think that's what we need. I do think someone who the players will instantly respect will fix most of our problems. Mourinho seems like a good fit for the squad in its current state.
Your right about marsch quality manager and a entertaining watch but surely it's time for trophies as you say
 

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How can the grass be any worse on the other side? Pochettino is stubborn, a arrogant man who really has no right to be so, remember he's won nothing, his football is AVB levels of boring, results are Ramos levels of shit and he's to stubborn to have a DOF come in, to arrogant to drop his favourites and can anyone please name me a manager since Fergie which poch certainly isn't that's turned a situation this bad around
How was the grass the 10 years before Poch? How's it working for ManU changing managers every couple years? Are Arsenal better with Emery? You honestly think all the sudden we'll just be able to consistently recruit top managers under this ownership? No fucking chance.

You all want Eddie Howe? Be my guest.. I think you're crazy.
 
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Lighty64

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I think most people watch the big games and it's true that Mourinho brings a pragmatic approach to those games, so they form an opinion it's always like that. But I've watched plenty of games in which his team's have been so effective in destroying teams with either swift counter attacking football or intense pressure. His teams will never be like Pep with innovative tactics or intense pressing like Klopp but this notion that his team's are ultra defensive week in week out is nonsense.

At United, he started the 17/18 season with a real positive and enjoyable formula but he could see that the likes of Pogba, Martial and Shaw were neglecting defensive duties and it was a matter of time before they got exposed so he went defensive vs Liverpool and he got slaughtered for it. Week after Huddersfield beat them because they were too open in midfield. Therefore he starting working on this weakness, trouble is the likes of Pogba don't want to be defending for too long so he quickly lost their faith.

I think our players are desperate to win, so they'd buy into whatever he's selling.

if they are that desperate then they ought to put more effort when they are playing.
 

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It honestly doesn't feel like any result would make a difference at the moment. We could lose 5 nil at home to Sheff Utd and he'd still be there the following Monday.

That's what tears me up about wanting him to go while his relationship is somewhat salvageable. Knowing that even if results continue to be shit he's not going to be culpable for it. Almost might as well not wish for change knowing its not going to happen.

Time is up anyway, and has been for a while but if we don't win next weekend it really would be madness to continue on with him

so you're making next Saturday a must win game v an opponent that has taken points off of Arsenal, Chelsea and not lost away from home yet. They were very unlucky to not get at least a point v Liverpool.

they definitely won't be an easy opponent considering our form at present, and will have to hope we get an early goal or 2, because the longer the game goes the harder it will be to beat a very well organised defensive team that are quick on the counter.
 

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You know the most worrying part of this all Is there's been no reliable ITK like JJ mention poch leaving or even being under pressure the utter arrogance that somehow being 11th a couple of points off relegation with half our team running their contracts out is acceptable and being actively supported by levy who sacked a trophy winning manager in Ramos after a similar starr (and rightfully so) we talk about making changes in January yet what top player will not want to play CL football at a club on the decline fuming

11th and a couple of points? 5pts isn't a couple, and we are 4pts off of 5th placed Arsenal

Ramos was on 2pts from 8 games, quite a difference there as well
 

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How was the grass the 10 years before Poch? How's it working for ManU changing managers every couple years? Are Arsenal better with Emery? You honestly think all the sudden we'll just be able to consistently recruit top managers under this ownership? No fucking chance.

You all want Eddie Howe? Be my guest.. I think you're crazy.
Both the teams you've just mentioned are not only above us In the league but have won more than poch has during his time at the club, Eddie Howe would be entertaining, not my choice but like redknapp it'd be a fun ride, I pay well over a k to watch this shower of shite can I atleast go back to enjoying it? We have good players but we are playing like prime pulis stoke it's grim
 

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so you're making next Saturday a must win game v an opponent that has taken points off of Arsenal, Chelsea and not lost away from home yet. They were very unlucky to not get at least a point v Liverpool.

they definitely won't be an easy opponent considering our form at present, and will have to hope we get an early goal or 2, because the longer the game goes the harder it will be to beat a very well organised defensive team that are quick on the counter.
Thanks for that, I can't fucking wait now ?
 

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Last season, other than Liverpool and Man City, if not for how poor the rest of the Top 6 were we might not be able to finish 4th TBH. Remember how the teams around us constantly dropped points, seemingly not keen to wrap up that 4th spot given numerous opportunities? We really have the good run we sustained in end of 2018 to thank for that gave us the padding for a very poor 2019 start that limped us over to the 4th place.

We may not not get relegated this season even if we are really bad because there are really more than 3 teams in the leagues this season who are alot worse and more unlucky than us who will go down.

But we are just some bad luck away from really bad things that can happen to us. It was just papering over the cracks that we got the CL this season. It will be the same this season - we will likely not be relegated and maybe even in contention for Europa. But what ifs? It isn't impossible to take some bad luck to be where Watford is. They even play better football with threat than us at times but they just not getting the points. Norwich beat Man City and had good performances but see where they are now.

Levy and Co need to realise we have been looking OK largely only because these teams made us look ok.
 

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Poch to Bayern doesn't fit for me.

For the past 10 years they've always gone for the proven experienced winners - Van Gaal, Heynckes, Guardiola, Ancelotti. Kovac was the exception but he was a former player for them .

None of the big clubs with expectations of winning trophies is going to appoint someone who has won nothing

Pochettino knows this and that is why he is saying he could be off if we had won the CL
 

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None of the big clubs with expectations of winning trophies is going to appoint someone who has won nothing

Pochettino knows this and that is why he is saying he could be off if we had won the CL
Hence I really don't think any big teams will poach him from us despite he's seemingly confident he will. Getting him when he's jobless yes, but definitely not paying us to get him. And that's why the longer this goes, the more I think he will just stay with us unless Levy wield his chop.
 

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Both the teams you've just mentioned are not only above us In the league but have won more than poch has during his time at the club, Eddie Howe would be entertaining, not my choice but like redknapp it'd be a fun ride, I pay well over a k to watch this shower of shite can I atleast go back to enjoying it? We have good players but we are playing like prime pulis stoke it's grim
ManU has the exact same amount of points as we do and Arsenal are 4 ahead and talking about firing their manager.
 

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ManU has the exact same amount of points as we do and Arsenal are 4 ahead and talking about firing their manager.
So arsenal 4 points ahead of us believe their situation is unacceptable and are going to change their manager yet we are defending the bloke? This is why we will ALWAYS be tin pot and win nothing, also that Howe bloke you'd be disgusted in us getting is above magic Man with a worse team, it's over
 

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11th and a couple of points? 5pts isn't a couple, and we are 4pts off of 5th placed Arsenal

Ramos was on 2pts from 8 games, quite a difference there as well
And arsenal are going to sack their manager and we're 4 points off them and people STILL defend poch why we win fuck all tin pot mentality top to bottom at this club
 

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so you're making next Saturday a must win game v an opponent that has taken points off of Arsenal, Chelsea and not lost away from home yet. They were very unlucky to not get at least a point v Liverpool.

they definitely won't be an easy opponent considering our form at present, and will have to hope we get an early goal or 2, because the longer the game goes the harder it will be to beat a very well organised defensive team that are quick on the counter.
Get your excuses in early I see
 

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So arsenal 4 points ahead of us believe their situation is unacceptable and are going to change their manager yet we are defending the bloke? This is why we will ALWAYS be tin pot and win nothing, also that Howe bloke you'd be disgusted in us getting is above magic Man with a worse team, it's over
Come on now, Howe hasn't regularly got a team top 4, he's not been to a CL final. That may seem harsh on Howe as he's not managed a big club before but I think you're being very disingenuous to Poch here. And if you want to balance it out compare Poch's Southampton reign to Howes at Bournemouth.

I like Howe, think he's a decent coach but appointing him would be a MASSIVE risk. And could very well set us back years.
 

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if they are that desperate then they ought to put more effort when they are playing.
I don't think its as simple as that. I think if you're doing the same things over and over again you can lose that edge. It's a perfectly human thing to happen.

It happened to Rodgers, it's happened to Klopp, it'll happen to Pep.

It's why Poch should have adapted things, given the players new ideas. Yet we're hearing players are exhausted or are confused or feeling a lack of change in methods.
 

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Come on now, Howe hasn't regularly got a team top 4, he's not been to a CL final. That may seem harsh on Howe as he's not managed a big club before but I think you're being very disingenuous to Poch here. And if you want to balance it out compare Poch's Southampton reign to Howes at Bournemouth.

I like Howe, think he's a decent coach but appointing him would be a MASSIVE risk. And could very well set us back years.
Why the fuck are people making out I want Howe I literally never said this and got it pushed on me, Howe is down on my list to replace poch right at the bottom, BUT I'd rather have him than pochettino atleast it would be entertaining and what did poch do at Southampton that hasn't been done better by Howe? Howe stayed longer, took them from the championship when they were massive under dogs and now a top half side again I DONT want Howe but he's better than pochettino
 

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Still not sure the grass will be greener on the other side. I can't excuse the late subs and some of the weird line ups, but Lo Celso isn't deemed fit and you can see why when you see how Ndombele is holding up through out a game. This is a guy who thus far in the season essentially has 1 new player in 2 years. It's fucking inexcusable how stale this squad has gotten.

Give him January & Summer to turn it around, the man has shown the ability to recruit some incredible talent in Ndombele, Lo Celso, Sanchez, etc. over other clubs. If the summer went as he had hoped we'd have Bruno Fernandes or Paolo Dybala helping out in attack and Saliba here to fill in defense.

And as soon as someone wants to show me a list of all the players Poch supposedly turned down, I'll buy into the story that it was his fault we didnt buy any players that year. Cause Poch is also in charge of selling players too, which we did swimmingly.
But will we be able to recruit players of the quality of Ndombele and Lo Celso, if we're stuck in the bottom half of the table without a recent Champions League final appearance to boost our image?
 
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