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VegasII

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I think Ole is starting to look like a skinnier version of Moyes.

I wonder if they'll hire a plane and get the banners out?
 

'O Zio

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I think Ole is starting to look like a skinnier version of Moyes.

I wonder if they'll hire a plane and get the banners out?

He is loosing his trademarked babyface at an alarming rate it has to be said.
 

Hakkz

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Very interesting interview with Duncan Castles. Discussing Glazers pushing out SAF (who wanted them to hire Mourinho as his successor), Mourinho and why it went like it did and Pochettino...

 

Hakkz

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Actually a pretty good read and has made me lean even more towards Mourinho, should a Poch replacement be required.

Same. I think whatever club he ends up at, will benefit massively from his lust for revenge.
 
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Same. I think whatever club he ends up at, will benefit massively from his lust for revenge.
On the Caff, a reasonable amount of posters are seeing that he was hard done by and right about a lot of stuff and want him back.
 

rossdapep

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On the Caff, a reasonable amount of posters are seeing that he was hard done by and right about a lot of stuff and want him back.
A lot of my United pals and my bro were desperate to get him out but now they think it was a massive mistake.

I actually remember his first 2 seasons there and they were happy with him. At one point the fans were chanting about how Mourinho made them fall in love with the football again after Van Gaal had bored them all to tears.

Things started to go down hill from that point and he got loads of criticism for starting to go defensive but now we know why. He knew their defence was a ticking time bomb.

Perhaps he should have just kept playing expansive football and used any defensive issues as proof they needed better defenders.

His biggest mistake was putting the breaks on that cause all of a sudden Martial and Pogba started sulking followed by Rashford.

It goes to show how difficult it is to keep a dressing room in check. One bad decision and you start losing some. Then Sanchez came in on high salary and that fractured things more.
 

ljinko888

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Their biggest mistake was not letting Van Gaal see out his last year.

Van Gaal may have been boring football but he drastically cut the age of their squad and integrated many youth players. And his style of play was considered poor only at United. Nowhere else in his career was he considered a boring manager. If they gave him that last year he'd have probably signed a couple of young and exciting talents to upgrade what he already had. Instead they sacked him and gave Mourinho £350m to spend and pretty much all of his signings bar Ibrahimovic on a free has been a flop.

Solskjaer is now trying to do the job Van Gaal did by giving young players a chance but he doesn't have the record or skill as a manager to do it. His saving grace is he is a legend from his playing days so all the ex players in the media are friends with him whereas they seemed to really dislike Van Gaal (and vice versa).
 

Hakkz

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A lot of my United pals and my bro were desperate to get him out but now they think it was a massive mistake.

I actually remember his first 2 seasons there and they were happy with him. At one point the fans were chanting about how Mourinho made them fall in love with the football again after Van Gaal had bored them all to tears.

Things started to go down hill from that point and he got loads of criticism for starting to go defensive but now we know why. He knew their defence was a ticking time bomb.

Perhaps he should have just kept playing expansive football and used any defensive issues as proof they needed better defenders.

His biggest mistake was putting the breaks on that cause all of a sudden Martial and Pogba started sulking followed by Rashford.

It goes to show how difficult it is to keep a dressing room in check. One bad decision and you start losing some. Then Sanchez came in on high salary and that fractured things more.

They seem to have all realized that the problem is Woodward. Mourinho didn't handle himself perfectly, to put it mildly. But he seems to have been correct in pretty much everything he said.

As Castles points out in the interview above, Mourinho had to set up the defense on a game-for-game basis because he couldn't find a consistent best eleven.
 

Marty

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Very interesting interview with Duncan Castles. Discussing Glazers pushing out SAF (who wanted them to hire Mourinho as his successor), Mourinho and why it went like it did and Pochettino...


Castles is such a lickspittle about Mourinho though. It's interesting but he was Mourinho's unofficial spokesperson and mouthpiece when Mourinho was at United, so it has to be taken with a pinch of salt.
 

Hakkz

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Castles is such a lickspittle about Mourinho though. It's interesting but he was Mourinho's unofficial spokesperson and mouthpiece when Mourinho was at United, so it has to be taken with a pinch of salt.

Absolutely. I don't trust any journos, but it does tie in with a lot of other stuff about Woodward and the Glazers.
 

Marty

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Absolutely. I don't trust any journos, but it does tie in with a lot of other stuff about Woodward and the Glazers.
Oh absolutely. I was privy to some United ITK in May, I was at a talk held by the journalist who broke the Solskjær to United story after Mourinho was sacked. There's nothing Castles says that is definitely wrong, it all ties in.

His biggest mistake was putting the breaks on that cause all of a sudden Martial and Pogba started sulking followed by Rashford.
This is why I absolutely don't want Mourinho at Spurs, ever. In a time of peril he always goes sulky and defensive, no matter what, and we don't need that at our club.
 

newbie

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we have a great manager we just need to back him if the fans are behind him the players and board hopefuly will back him!
 
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Mourinho £350m to spend and pretty much all of his signings bar Ibrahimovic on a free has been a flop.
I don't think anyone could call Lukaku a flop - he scored a lot of goals despite their issues.

I'm pretty sure Lindelof isn't thought of badly, either, and Matic was great under him
 

Marty

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I don't think anyone could call Lukaku a flop - he scored a lot of goals despite their issues.

I'm pretty sure Lindelof isn't thought of badly, either, and Matic was great under him
Lindelof is one of few who has raised his game since Mourinho left and kept it at a decent level after the initial bounce. I think him and Maguire are a very good partnership, maybe not the basis of a title winning squad but certainly good enough to challenge.

Matic was good in the 2nd place season but the last six months of Jose left it was as if he'd fallen off a cliff. I don't think his body can handle the level and tempo of the PL any more and the signs were there before Jose left.
 
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Lindelof is one of few who has raised his game since Mourinho left and kept it at a decent level after the initial bounce. I think him and Maguire are a very good partnership, maybe not the basis of a title winning squad but certainly good enough to challenge.

Matic was good in the 2nd place season but the last six months of Jose left it was as if he'd fallen off a cliff. I don't think his body can handle the level and tempo of the PL any more and the signs were there before Jose left.

I don't think that's enough to call anyone a flop - or else you could call quite a few of our players "flops". They are decent signings who have suffered with team form
 
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