Yiddo100
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Possibly but neither should be anywhere near our club
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McFlash
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I really would hate to think that such a thing could go on at the top level, in this country. I hate the idea of it at any level but understand that there are still many fucking idiots in society, so at a lower level, that sort of racism may still exist.
I cannot believe that a Premier League club is racist.
punkisback
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Institutionally it may be. Look at West Ham’s recruitment policy. Their head of player acquisition was caught telling scouts they didn’t want African players. Dyche may not think he’s a racist. But if you’re a manager and you don’t think black players can play the football you want to implement, them that is racist.
You have to read the article in the independent that quotes Robbo. It’s eye opening.
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McFlash
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That was an interesting read and certainly grounds for some concern.
It's not a debate for this thread though, I suppose.
SirHarryHotspur
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Check out the Shearer quote when Jose got sacked at Chelsea
"I have never known players to perform like they did last season and then be so bad now. It's unprecedented."
www.bbc.co.uk
"I have never known players to perform like they did last season and then be so bad now. It's unprecedented."
Mourinho sacked as Chelsea manager
Chelsea dismiss manager Jose Mourinho seven months after he led the club to the Premier League title.
www.bbc.co.uk
SpursSince1980
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Well, it’s a rather fatuous excercise now. As I always felt that if Poch were still manager by Tuesday or Wednesday then he ain’t goin’ nowhere. I don’t know if that means Levy is backing him indefinitely, short of getting the team relegated or maybe he’s playing the long game, hoping UTD or Real might bat their eyelids at him if they jettison their current head honchos. That way he doesn’t have to hemorrhage a pay out.
The more I’ve been thinking about our general standard of play since January, and the options of what needs to be done to mitigate the malaise, the more I’m leaning into the manager has to go camp. I just don’t see a short term path forward that would change our fortunes, unless it involves a huge shake up at the top.
I’m not a fervent anti Poch brigadier. I still love him. But like many here, I love the club more. And if you’ve been around to see the ups and (mostly) downs of the last 30+ years, you get a feel for when the team has gone as far s they can go with the manager. The writing is on the wall. Growing bolder and brighter by the day. This won’t be scrubbed away or painted over. It doesn’t work like that. Never has.
Sadly this stinks of a ‘dead man walking’ scenario. Like we are delaying the inevitable. And I would love for Poch to buck the odds and thumb his nose at history... but there just isn’t any evidence that this is likely or feasible. He is brilliant in so many ways. But he is stubborn and seemingly short of ideas to turn the tide.
So... what to do?
The more I’ve been thinking about our general standard of play since January, and the options of what needs to be done to mitigate the malaise, the more I’m leaning into the manager has to go camp. I just don’t see a short term path forward that would change our fortunes, unless it involves a huge shake up at the top.
I’m not a fervent anti Poch brigadier. I still love him. But like many here, I love the club more. And if you’ve been around to see the ups and (mostly) downs of the last 30+ years, you get a feel for when the team has gone as far s they can go with the manager. The writing is on the wall. Growing bolder and brighter by the day. This won’t be scrubbed away or painted over. It doesn’t work like that. Never has.
Sadly this stinks of a ‘dead man walking’ scenario. Like we are delaying the inevitable. And I would love for Poch to buck the odds and thumb his nose at history... but there just isn’t any evidence that this is likely or feasible. He is brilliant in so many ways. But he is stubborn and seemingly short of ideas to turn the tide.
So... what to do?
WiganSpur
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If he's not going to sack him, then surely it means a mass January overhaul. Or else what's the point in retaining him as coach? Either the troublesome players have to go or Pochettino does.
TasSpur
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If anyone is suggesting Mourinho, please think how pissed off he was at how the Board backed back him at Man U... and then consider how it would go with levy and Co.... He would demand 100's of millions. If we are going to spend that it would be better to give it to Poch but I don't think anyone seriously thinks we are going to do that...for any manager....
dagraham
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I’m not denying he’s a good manager. The fact he’s consistently kept Burnley in the PL with the players he has is a testament to that.
I however would not want him managing us, even with the minute chance that working with better quality players would see him produce a more pleasing style of football. As I’ve said before, watching Burnley reminds me of the old Wimbledon.
So I’ll pass thanks.
rossdapep
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That Fabregas tweet stood out for me.Check out the Shearer quote when Jose got sacked at Chelsea
"I have never known players to perform like they did last season and then be so bad now. It's unprecedented."
Mourinho sacked as Chelsea manager
Chelsea dismiss manager Jose Mourinho seven months after he led the club to the Premier League title.
Shows that he does have very good relationships with some. And that's a player who previously was a fierce rival.
I think he rubs up ego players the wrong way simply by getting them to adopt the same work ethic as others.
Think about those he's upset over the years. Pogba, Martial, Hazard, Ronaldo all players who wanted to do all the match winning stuff but not the running.
Ramos is known to be a massive presence and Casillas was too pally with the Barca lot and then some secret training plans got leaked.
I think if all the players buy into Mourinho he gets them winning. Like at Inter, Porto and Chelsea.
He also works better with underdogs or less egos shall we say
beats1
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Fair but the point wasn't lets get Sean Dyche, the point was if people want Howe, I rather have Dyche who though isn't as sexy is better imo
Howe spent a lot of money yet those signings tend to be hit or misses no decent signings
For a club like Bournemouth, you cant be spending that money and not progress. They have the 8th highest net spend in the league yet have finished in the top 10 once
Meanwhile Burnley spending a lot less have been about the same but managed to qualify for Europe
The Opinionated Lurker
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Did last summer not happen to some? The club spent well over £100m last summer and for seemingly the first time in forever didn't have a positive or neutral net spend as we couldn’t have brought in more than £30m. Levy has said there is more to spend. It’s not like we always had this stadium and Levy didn’t touch the bank, we spent within our means and now our means are way higher.
DFF
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I’m not even saying he wants to sack him. Just saying IF he does I don’t think it’d be this week. We’re getting great coverage right now in the American sports media.
dannythomas
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That’s Eriksen, Dele and Rose out of the door then ...
dannythomas
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Esperito Santo or Ancelotti worth considering ? Simeone would be great but we have as much chance of signing him as we do Neymar.
SpursSince1980
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Yeah, that’s what I’m thinking too. Either he’s staying with an understanding that he has permission to bring in two or three fresh faces in January and (depending on sales) he will bring in another three or four next summer. That would basically mean we’d start the next season with 9 or 10 new players since summer 2019. That constitutes an overhaul, right?
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