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Player watch: Christian Eriksen

danielneeds

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Eriksen showing his dislike for the club. Will reject any attempt to sell him in January, will leave at the end of the season with no reward for the club.

Oh, let's not lay it on too thick. We bought him for peanuts precisely because he ran his contract down at Ajax.
 

JCRD

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I understand why Poch is frustrated CE is still around but just dump him int he reserves if he thinks he sucks and dont play him... we aint getting a penny on CE and dont care about that in the scheme of things as in cash terms we spent 11m and got good service for the last five years up until this season.

We will not be getting 30m when CE could get that in his pock by waiting six months
 

ikky

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Tbh if he continues with the form he’s been in for over a year I’m not sure he’s even worth a new contract and most likely being amongst the top earners at the club. The only benefit I could see would be we wouldn’t lose him in a free and could sell him.
 

Trotter

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So let’s get this right.
In league,
Turned the game when he came on against Aston Villa, we struggled badly without him.
Didn’t play well at Man City (who did),
Didn’t start against Newcastle, we struggled badly without him, and then he created our best chances when he did come on.
Played full game and Scored at Arsenal, and had decent game
Played full game against Palace in good team performance, and he was integral in that.
Came on for last 10 mins at Leicester.

To me it looks like an obvious pattern, even this season, when he is on the pitch, we are significantly better than when he is not. Doesn’t look like he has downed tools at all. He has been booked more times this season than in whole of last, as he seems to be tackling a lot more, as well as covering most ground, as he always does.

So now a penalty which was hit in the corner was saved, not missed, saved, so what, it happens, at least was decent penalty, Moura missed the target.

And if he wants to leave for nothing, good luck to him, it is his right, we would have binned him off years ago if he wasn’t along with Kane the most important player in our team, and has from rumours been priced out a move.

And you lot turn on him just like that, because the club fucked up by not offering him better deal years ago, and allowed him to get in to last 2 years of his contract.
Totally fickle.
 
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TheVoiceofReason

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To be honest not really sure where all this demonisation is coming from. Bit mad some of the spite in here.

Yes he’s been utterly crap, and his heads been turned and he’s proved himself to be mentally weak and a flawed professional. But he’s wanted to leave for a while now. We probably could have sold him for slightly lower than we wanted for him but chose not to, but nevertheless he still wants to leave. Unfortunately for us, his best option is to ride out his contract and leave on a free.

Our problem for being naive to the point of arrogance, not his and I don’t blame him for it.
 

Trotter

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To be honest not really sure where all this demonisation is coming from. Bit mad some of the spite in here.

Yes he’s been utterly crap, and his heads been turned and he’s proved himself to be mentally weak and a flawed professional. But he’s wanted to leave for a while now. We probably could have sold him for slightly lower than we wanted for him but chose not to, but nevertheless he still wants to leave. Unfortunately for us, his best option is to ride out his contract and leave on a free.

Our problem for being naive to the point of arrogance, not his and I don’t blame him for it.

I wouldn’t even say he has been utterly crap, I would say he has just not been playing to his own very very high standards of prior seasons, but still has been a lot better than majority of our other players, just gets judged to a different standard because we know what he is capable of.

Even this utterly crap last season, he got double the amount of assists than any other player in our squad got, only Hazard and Fraser got more in league, as well as a load of long range strikes.
 
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JayB

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To be honest not really sure where all this demonisation is coming from. Bit mad some of the spite in here.

Yes he’s been utterly crap, and his heads been turned and he’s proved himself to be mentally weak and a flawed professional. But he’s wanted to leave for a while now. We probably could have sold him for slightly lower than we wanted for him but chose not to, but nevertheless he still wants to leave. Unfortunately for us, his best option is to ride out his contract and leave on a free.

Our problem for being naive to the point of arrogance, not his and I don’t blame him for it.
For me it's not a matter of vindictiveness but rather what is best for the club. You don't many people calling for Toby to be sent to the reserves because he's remained thoroughly professional in his play.

I'll admit that my wanting Erikesn to be banished is based on the entirely speculative notion that his attitude and uninspired play is a major part of the general malaise hanging over the squad at the moment, and the hopeful guess that Poch putting his foot down and demanding that anyone who wears the shirt be fully devoted would have a galvanizing effect on the rest of the players.

We as supporters can't be sure about anything going on within the dressing room but it certainly feels from the outside as though Eriksen could be dragging the whole group down, and if there's any truth to that then Poch needs to take action.
 

Snarfalicious

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Over him and all the drama, personally. Yes, he’s a great player when his head is right, but he obviously wants to be somewhere else, and his performances on the whole this season are proof of that.
 
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He’s just showing his poor mentality tbh.

Real Madrid didn’t want him in the summer and you’d think he’d then play his socks off to make them want him, but he’s doing absolutely nothing to make them start having lusty stares at him.

Doesn’t show enough for one of the truly big teams to want him as he doesn’t have that winning mentality.

This.

I'm not backing him on this one. He has been pretty poor for some time, especially in this season. Last season i don't think we can blame him for that much, he was still decent compared to others in the squad.

Back to the mentality, this has always been an issue for Eriksen, and just from people from Denmark in general, as we're so comfortable with what we have, that when we get out of that zone it really questions your mentality. And at this level I think you need some kick-ass mentality.

I don't agree with people saying Eriksen don't care about the club anymore, not professional, and now is a big scapegoat and all that BS, he almost cried when he missed that penalty and Dele was being nice to him. What I think is wrong atm is he has absolutely ZERO confidence in anything he does and that will affect anyone's game. There's really not much to do for him other than work hard and show it on the pitch.
 

danielneeds

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This.

I'm not backing him on this one. He has been pretty poor for some time, especially in this season. Last season i don't think we can blame him for that much, he was still decent compared to others in the squad.

Back to the mentality, this has always been an issue for Eriksen, and just from people from Denmark in general, as we're so comfortable with what we have, that when we get out of that zone it really questions your mentality. And at this level I think you need some kick-ass mentality.

I don't agree with people saying Eriksen don't care about the club anymore, not professional, and now is a big scapegoat and all that BS, he almost cried when he missed that penalty and Dele was being nice to him. What I think is wrong atm is he has absolutely ZERO confidence in anything he does and that will affect anyone's game. There's really not much to do for him other than work hard and show it on the pitch.
If he’s got zero confidence at the moment then how the hell does he expect to play for Real? It’s baffling. One bad match and the boos will be ringing.
 

RikkiRocket

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There must be a transfer window open somewhere? Greenland? Cant we loan him out to a club in the third tier of the Madagascan league?✂️
 

thebenjamin

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Eriksen showing his dislike for the club. Will reject any attempt to sell him in January, will leave at the end of the season with no reward for the club.


What nonsense. He's not showing dislike for the club in the slightest. It's absolutely his right to try and maximise his earnings. Did Aaron Ramsey show his dislike for arsenal by doing the exact same thing?
 

Stamford

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What nonsense. He's not showing dislike for the club in the slightest. It's absolutely his right to try and maximise his earnings. Did Aaron Ramsey show his dislike for arsenal by doing the exact same thing?

Ramsey was probably their best player last year. He shows his disdain with this performances and general attitude for months
 

E17yid

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What nonsense. He's not showing dislike for the club in the slightest. It's absolutely his right to try and maximise his earnings. Did Aaron Ramsey show his dislike for arsenal by doing the exact same thing?

I kinda agree but one thing I know for sure, Ramsey cared a fuck load more about Arsenal than Eriksen cares about us. You could see that in his performance for Arsenal last season and look at Eriksens performances for us over the last year when it’s clear he wanted out.

I think there was one game (which I can’t recall) where Ramsey was in tears, can you imagine Erinsen being like that? Obviously they’re different people and it’s no crime that Eriksen doesn’t really feel much of an emotional attachment to us but you’d hope after 6 years or whatever that he’d be putting in more of a shift at the very least.
 

JCRD

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To be honest not really sure where all this demonisation is coming from. Bit mad some of the spite in here.

Yes he’s been utterly crap, and his heads been turned and he’s proved himself to be mentally weak and a flawed professional. But he’s wanted to leave for a while now. We probably could have sold him for slightly lower than we wanted for him but chose not to, but nevertheless he still wants to leave. Unfortunately for us, his best option is to ride out his contract and leave on a free.

Our problem for being naive to the point of arrogance, not his and I don’t blame him for it.

He is well within his rights to leave at the end of his contract and to be honest I'd most likely do the same if a club was going to pay me 20m plus 200k a week in wages plus offer a different city and culture.

I think though he needs to show some respect whilst he is still under contract by putting in the effort and dedication... That's what I'm personally pissed about. He is definitely out of form thiugh like really stinking the place up, Olympiakos game he was just vomit inducing.
 

thebenjamin

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Ramsey was probably their best player last year. He shows his disdain with this performances and general attitude for months

I kinda agree but one thing I know for sure, Ramsey cared a fuck load more about Arsenal than Eriksen cares about us. You could see that in his performance for Arsenal last season and look at Eriksens performances for us over the last year when it’s clear he wanted out.

I think there was one game (which I can’t recall) where Ramsey was in tears, can you imagine Erinsen being like that? Obviously they’re different people and it’s no crime that Eriksen doesn’t really feel much of an emotional attachment to us but you’d hope after 6 years or whatever that he’d be putting in more of a shift at the very least.

That I can see the logic in. Although I don't think CE is deliberately downing tools, playing shit, not trying etc. I reject that, and it's just oden's fit with the character of the player who's covered more distance than any other Spurs player in each of Pochettino's seasons in charge. I just don't think he's the strongest mentally, the situation has got to him and he's no longer able to produce his best. Also we can't overlook that over the last 5 years he's played more minutes than any other player in the entire Premier League, plus every game for Denmark, and I think it's pretty clear that he's struggling physically and mentally.

My original point was that him running his contract down is absolutely his right. We've been paying him around a quarter to a third of his real value since he's been at the club, we got him for £10M or so because he'd run his contract down at Ajax, there is no morality attached to this, only him getting the power of his future away from the club, to himself. Which nobody should have a problem with, particularly given it will increasingly become the norm.
 

nailsy

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Good point . But I am just saying if you look at the list of the top 100 FIFPRO players you can pick out countless players that are not there that should be there and countless players that should not be there and these FIFPRO people are not to be taken as gospel.

Countless players that you think should be on the list. FIFPRO is voted for by professional footballers - thousands of them. It's not done by a dozen blokes on a committee. And the point of mentioning them in the first place was to show how subjective discussing a players form is.

And this might be the reason why the really big clubs do not want him. They all knew he was avaliable this summer for a reasonable price, but no one came for him.

But was he available in the summer for a reasonable price? I'd love to know how much we were asking for him. Was the lack of interest down to the cost, or just down to teams not thinking he was right for them?

Eriksen showing his dislike for the club. Will reject any attempt to sell him in January, will leave at the end of the season with no reward for the club.


Even if he doesn't want to be sold in January it doesn't mean that he dislikes the club. It's his right to stay until his contract expires if that's what he wants to do. He can sign a pre-contract agreement with foreign clubs in January anyway so his destiny really is in his own hands. If, as he says, it's not just about money he may well agree to move for a low fee and lower wages if the interest is there.
 

ernie78

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If he’s got zero confidence at the moment then how the hell does he expect to play for Real? It’s baffling. One bad match and the boos will be ringing.
Exactly!! Their fans voted Modric the worst signing of the season and hate Bale. They are the most entitled set of fans on the planet and when the first corner he takes hits the oppo defender in the shins they will go mental ?
 
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