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teok

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Saying you can't judge him from one game is pretty meaningless if you go on to judge him from one game.
 

Ron Burgundy

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He really needs to stay at Palace. He's not ready for a big move IMO and it could easily go the same way as Zaha's failed Utd move if he does.

I think that's quite a big judgement.

Frankly if he was on the block for 40m (50 at a push) I'd still be supportive of selling Tripps for 25/35 (hopefully the latter) and forking out the increment for the upgrade, on the proviso that there was an understanding we were getting potential, not the finished article, and that he would be given time to develop i.e. that he would have good days but that there would be mistakes along the way.

His one on one, as you say, is outstanding for someone his age. And his athleticism means he'll be able to get up and down the wing in the way Walker used to. Those raw factors mean that with the right coaching I reckon there's a star there, and with that profile at that age, he'd be worth going for. We wouldn't lose money on him IMO in almost any circumstance outside of a shocking injury.

The concerns that have been raised off one game (in honesty, probably one of the few times many have seen him outside of highlight reels) show that he still has much to learn, and that the 70m being talked about is silly - there would be better value elsewhere.

But the season he's just had means that the 50m being talked about, while punchy, is probably justified, and 40m is a no brainer - even more so if Tripps were to be going for 25/30
 

nailsy

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Yup. For me, he’s a player with excellent potential who could, with a bit of experience, turn out to be a top class full back.

But you’re buying potential, not the finished article.

I can see why you’d pay over the odds to get Ndombele, but for him you’d be OK paying 40 or so, but you just can’t justify the figures being bandied around because he’s not that player yet

This is all it comes down to for me. If we had all the other players that we needed and he was the final piece of the puzzle then it might be worth going for it, but as it is we've got other priorities. I'm sure we can sign another right back for a fraction of the money quoted for AWB who would still improve us.
 

wrd

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This is all it comes down to for me. If we had all the other players that we needed and he was the final piece of the puzzle then it might be worth going for it, but as it is we've got other priorities. I'm sure we can sign another right back for a fraction of the money quoted for AWB who would still improve us.

Yeah we have to prioritise other positions and I think there has to be value elsewhere in europe for the fullback role, I dont think its wise to be spending 50-70 mill on a rb this season when we have other gaps to fill.

We are talking replacing dembele and eriksen vs replacing trippier. Id say its going to take a hell of a lot of money to replace dembele and eriksen but we can be smart replacing trips.
 

Clark28

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Sell Pogba to Madrid so they leave Eriksen alone, then use some of that Pogba cash to buy Tripps from us.

I'd send Ole a Christmas card.
 

JonnySpurs

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I think that's quite a big judgement.

Frankly if he was on the block for 40m (50 at a push) I'd still be supportive of selling Tripps for 25/35 (hopefully the latter) and forking out the increment for the upgrade, on the proviso that there was an understanding we were getting potential, not the finished article, and that he would be given time to develop i.e. that he would have good days but that there would be mistakes along the way.

His one on one, as you say, is outstanding for someone his age. And his athleticism means he'll be able to get up and down the wing in the way Walker used to. Those raw factors mean that with the right coaching I reckon there's a star there, and with that profile at that age, he'd be worth going for. We wouldn't lose money on him IMO in almost any circumstance outside of a shocking injury.

The concerns that have been raised off one game (in honesty, probably one of the few times many have seen him outside of highlight reels) show that he still has much to learn, and that the 70m being talked about is silly - there would be better value elsewhere.

But the season he's just had means that the 50m being talked about, while punchy, is probably justified, and 40m is a no brainer - even more so if Tripps were to be going for 25/30

Quite a big judgement?

I'm not saying he's not good enough for us or Utd - that would be judging him, I'm not doing that. I've given a review of his performance based on what I saw last night and in my humble opinion it would be better for his development if he stayed at Palace. Far too often young players have made moves to one of the big 6 clubs, including ourselves, when they probably shouldn't have and it's not worked out.

Don't get me wrong, if we were to sell Trippier and sign him then I'd be delighted but that doesn't mean I can't be unsure about his fit with us in Poch's system. Irrespective though, it doesn't appear we're in for him anyway so it likely won't matter.

EDIT: I should clarify, not being ready for a big move is different, IMO, to being good enough to play for a top 6 club. He's clearly got the ability but I'm just not sure if he's got the mindset yet to deal with the pressure and exposure that comes with that big move. I could be completely wrong but it's just my view.
 

wrd

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I doubt Aarons would come much cheaper than Wan Bissaka tbh

Why wouldn't he, Wan Bissaka is being quoted between 50-70 million, you think Norwich are in a position to hold out for those amounts on a young prospect when they haven't had the benefit of TV money injected into their funds all these years like palace have?
 

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Still not read anything in this thread that makes me think that he's any higher up the club's transfer target list than a general acknowledgement that he exists.
It doesn’t seem we’re after a RB at the moment. But that does fit in with the ITK that it won’t be looked at until later in the window until somebody is sold. I don’t think it’s a position we’ll manage to upgrade in the end though. I honestly don’t think Aurier and KWP would be a monumental disaster having said that.
 

WiganSpur

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Why wouldn't he, Wan Bissaka is being quoted between 50-70 million, you think Norwich are in a position to hold out for those amounts on a young prospect when they haven't had the benefit of TV money injected into their funds all these years like palace have?
They’ve just been promoted, they’ll want to stay in the division and they’ve already just had a cash injection from going up. Why would they want to sell him?
 

wrd

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They’ve just been promoted, they’ll want to stay in the division and they’ve already just had a cash injection from going up. Why would they want to sell him?

Because they can take that money and buy 2-3 players in more important areas of their squad to get a better balance, Aarons isn't a striker who's the difference between them getting 10/15 goals, he's a rb and it'd be a large risk to turn down money when his stock is high, look at Fulham, turned away 50 million for sessegnon who actually was a goalscorer and his value has plummeted.
 

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If united are going to go for Aarons instead now which I don’t think they are personally think they are pushing that interest to make palace sweat. However if they are then it’s a no brainier to sell trips for 30 odd mill and use that with 25/30 of our budget and get awb in who will literally be rb for the next 10 years.
 

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If we’re splashing out on Lo Celso and Ndombele, there’s no way I can see Levy stumping up another £50m+ for a RB with two U21 caps to his name when we’ve already got KWP and Aurier (assuming Trippier leaves and Aurier stays).

If we’re going in for an additional HG option at RB, far more likely we spend £15m on Max Aarons IMO.
 

wrd

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If we’re splashing out on Lo Celso and Ndombele, there’s no way I can see Levy stumping up another £50m+ for a RB with two U21 caps to his name when we’ve already got KWP and Aurier (assuming Trippier leaves and Aurier stays).

If we’re going in for an additional HG option at RB, far more likely we spend £15m on Max Aaron’s IMO.

We're all keen on big signings this season but if people are demanding a big RB transfer fee on top of Lo Celso and Ndombele then they'll never be satisfied as it's ridiculously unrealistic.
 

Dirtysanchez6

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I’d take either though we could sell trips and aurier which would basically pay the whole awb fee. I think we might move for Aarons later in the window with ndombele and Lo Celso being the priorities first. Just need the first transfer to get the ball rolling
 

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If united are going to go for Aarons instead now which I don’t think they are personally think they are pushing that interest to make palace sweat. However if they are then it’s a no brainier to sell trips for 30 odd mill and use that with 25/30 of our budget and get awb in who will literally be rb for the next 10 years.

Utd still have Timothy Forsu Mensah who looked an absolute beast a couple of seasons back. Not sure why they're not trying to do anything with him because he has all the raw ingredients to be decent enough from what I've seen (admittedly not that much). Not sure if he's still on loan at Fulham - probably not.
 
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