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Women's Football - Wage Disparity Debate

Atomic Blonde

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I must have stopped getting notifications for this after about 2 pages.

What have I missed?
You probably missed the fact that your original post/thread title about 'wage parity' is totally misleading and bears very little relation to the linked article and what female players are actually asking which is improved prize money and better funding from FIFA not parity/equality.

Bearing in mind FIFA are a not for profit organisation whose mission statement is to invest in and grow the game 'for all' regardless of gender, then investing more money into the women's game is an essential if they are serious about trying to achieve this mission.

But rather than supporting this, there are some people who actually argue that FIFA, one of the richest organisations in the world which pays it's own employees millions in salaries/expenses and has been exposed for large scale bribery and corruption, that currently has 2.7 billion cash reserves (after already giving billions to the men's game), shouldn't give women actually playing the game even a tiny fraction more of that money. Bewildering.

There are several posts from myself and @dontcallme @nailsy @Archibald&Crooks which go into more detail about the article itself and what is actually happening rather than just pushing a certain narrative.
 

Lilbaz

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You probably missed the fact that your original post/thread title about 'wage parity' is totally misleading and bears very little relation to the linked article and what female players are actually asking which is improved prize money and better funding from FIFA not parity/equality.

Bearing in mind FIFA are a not for profit organisation whose mission statement is to invest in and grow the game 'for all' regardless of gender, then investing more money into the women's game is an essential if they are serious about trying to achieve this mission.

But rather than supporting this, there are some people who actually argue that FIFA, one of the richest organisations in the world which pays it's own employees millions in salaries/expenses and has been exposed for large scale bribery and corruption, that currently has 2.7 billion cash reserves (after already giving billions to the men's game), shouldn't give women actually playing the game even a tiny fraction more of that money. Bewildering.

There are several posts from myself and @dontcallme @nailsy @Archibald&Crooks which go into more detail about the article itself and what is actually happening rather than just pushing a certain narrative.

Prize money is how much the players get paid though and nothing to do with investment.
 

nailsy

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so they have two jobs. one with their club and one with the national team . you are certainly asking for the national teams to use the mens earnings to subsidize the women. so how many times have you done that? given up some of your wages? Ive actually done that ands its a bottomless pit.

The USA women's team have been bringing in more money than the men's team, which is why they've been asking for equal pay. I'm not getting into it again though - read the articles that have already been posted in this thread.

Prize money is how much the players get paid though and nothing to do with investment.

No, the prize money goes to the federations who decide how to use it. Some of it probably gets paid to the players.

I'm not sure how it works for all of the squads, but the USA squads get paid an amount for being selected in the squad. The men's team gets about $32K a person more than the women's team despite less successful and generating less revenue. Apparently a cereal bar firm stepped in to pay the difference just before the tournament started.
 

Lilbaz

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The USA women's team have been bringing in more money than the men's team, which is why they've been asking for equal pay. I'm not getting into it again though - read the articles that have already been posted in this thread.



No, the prize money goes to the federations who decide how to use it. Some of it probably gets paid to the players.

I'm not sure how it works for all of the squads, but the USA squads get paid an amount for being selected in the squad. The men's team gets about $32K a person more than the women's team despite less successful and generating less revenue. Apparently a cereal bar firm stepped in to pay the difference just before the tournament started.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/07/the-2019-womens-world-cup-prize-money-is-30-million.html

It's not investment.
 

nailsy

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Can you show me the bit where it says the money is paid to the players?

The French men's players didn't get over a million pounds each for winning the world cup.

http://money.com/money/5335909/france-just-won-the-world-cup-heres-how-much-their-players-get/

The president of the French Federation, Noël Le Graët, has said his athletes will get 30% of the cash they earn. Each player was guaranteed a bonus of €280,000, or about $330,000, for making it to the final, according to BFMTV. So they’re at least taking home that much.
 

Lilbaz

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Can you show me the bit where it says the money is paid to the players?

The French men's players didn't get over a million pounds each for winning the world cup.

http://money.com/money/5335909/france-just-won-the-world-cup-heres-how-much-their-players-get/

The president of the French Federation, Noël Le Graët, has said his athletes will get 30% of the cash they earn. Each player was guaranteed a bonus of €280,000, or about $330,000, for making it to the final, according to BFMTV. So they’re at least taking home that much.

It's not just the players though is it? Mbappe got £350k which he donated to charity. You have all the support staff etc...
 

nailsy

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It's not just the players though is it? Mbappe got £350k which he donated to charity. You have all the support staff etc...

So the support staff are going to get the other 70%?

What Mbappe does with his money is up to him. Its irrelevant to the discussion.
 

Yid-ol

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So the support staff are going to get the other 70%?

What Mbappe does with his money is up to him. Its irrelevant to the discussion.

Players get paid for playing international football, so money received in world cups and Euro's will get split between players staff who were there, but also will keep a chunk to pay players when not getting the prize money ( qualification and friendlies)
 
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