What our opponents' fans are saying about us 18/19

rez9000 said:

Agreed. No matter how much they may have suffered in the past (which, to be fair, they have) I can’t bring myself to have any fellow-feeling with Man City fans. I know they're only human, but their loyalty comes with an association with one of the most appalling and despicable sets of people (in the loosest sense of the word) in the world and they, as a fanbase, have directly benefited from that regime. For me, that makes them complicit. My apologies to anyone who thinks that may be harsh, but that's the way I see it.

I’ve been asked before how I’d react if that sort of oil slaver bought Spurs and started pouring money in to win us titles. In that scenario, I hope I'd have the courage of my convictions. I genuinely believe I would because ultimately the magnitude of what the likes of Man City's owners do regularly, for me, far outweighs any loyalty to a football club. It would devastate me if I had to turn my back on the club I love, but I would have to withdraw my support from any organisation whose owners perpetrate the sort of enormities the Emiratis do.

I cannot get over what Man City do and I can't help but view their supporters as enablers of tyrants. For me, by continuing to support the club, they validate the Emirati's attempts to sportswash their murderous regime.

I do feel a little pity for a Man City fan who chooses to abandon their club on that point of principle, because it can't be an easy decision, given the way that club loyalty comes about and most of them won't have chosen to be associated with human slime. But they still have a choice. And it's not as if they arent' aware of what their owners do. It's unkind, but I can't bring myself to be kind in this situation.



I agree, except with the analysis that Guardiola is a great manager. I will concede that he's good but, in my view, he will never be great if his record of winning is only with clubs with enormous resources. Were he to consistently take the likes of Forest or Derby (I chose those because I have a particular manager in mind) to League or Champions League titles, or he delivers 13 titles for the same team (again, a particular manager in mind) then I'd be willing to argue the case for greatness.

Beyond that, the fact that he prates on about Catalan independence and tries to paint himself as a man of principle while taking the money of a bunch of tyrants and murders totally undermines any possibility of according him respect. If I'm being completely frank, I can't even stand the sight of him.

Sorry guys, went on a bit of an anti-City rant there. There are few things that really elicit outright hatred in me, but City is one of them for what they do to football and what their owners do to innocent people. For me, that club have absolutely no redeeming features - everything about them is tainted. Apologies for the unburdening.

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-Afri-Coy- said:

Let's do this again next Tuesday at 2:00PM.

We may have to schedule some additional sessions after that but you are making steady progress, I will put that in my psychological assessment.

On a serious note, I agree with everything you've said. It's one thing to buy success with personal riches but that's not my problem with City, its the manner in which the Emirati's have gone about acquiring that wealth.

Not only that, but they use their financial muscle to bend FFP and the likes, simply because they can afford too with their seemingly bottomless pit of wealth.

Makes every victory against them so much sweeter.

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Gb160 said:

This... he's a complete fucking hypocrite.

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rez9000 said:

Agreed. No matter how much they may have suffered in the past (which, to be fair, they have) I can’t bring myself to have any fellow-feeling with Man City fans. I know they're only human, but their loyalty comes with an association with one of the most appalling and despicable sets of people (in the loosest sense of the word) in the world and they, as a fanbase, have directly benefited from that regime. For me, that makes them complicit. My apologies to anyone who thinks that may be harsh, but that's the way I see it.

I’ve been asked before how I’d react if that sort of oil slaver bought Spurs and started pouring money in to win us titles. In that scenario, I hope I'd have the courage of my convictions. I genuinely believe I would because ultimately the magnitude of what the likes of Man City's owners do regularly, for me, far outweighs any loyalty to a football club. It would devastate me if I had to turn my back on the club I love, but I would have to withdraw my support from any organisation whose owners perpetrate the sort of enormities the Emiratis do.

I cannot get over what Man City do and I can't help but view their supporters as enablers of tyrants. For me, by continuing to support the club, they validate the Emirati's attempts to sportswash their murderous regime.

I do feel a little pity for a Man City fan who chooses to abandon their club on that point of principle, because it can't be an easy decision, given the way that club loyalty comes about and most of them won't have chosen to be associated with human slime. But they still have a choice. And it's not as if they arent' aware of what their owners do. It's unkind, but I can't bring myself to be kind in this situation.



I agree, except with the analysis that Guardiola is a great manager. I will concede that he's good but, in my view, he will never be great if his record of winning is only with clubs with enormous resources. Were he to consistently take the likes of Forest or Derby (I chose those because I have a particular manager in mind) to League or Champions League titles, or he delivers 13 titles for the same team (again, a particular manager in mind) then I'd be willing to argue the case for greatness.

Beyond that, the fact that he prates on about Catalan independence and tries to paint himself as a man of principle while taking the money of a bunch of tyrants and murders totally undermines any possibility of according him respect. If I'm being completely frank, I can't even stand the sight of him.

Sorry guys, went on a bit of an anti-City rant there. There are few things that really elicit outright hatred in me, but City is one of them for what they do to football and what their owners do to innocent people. For me, that club have absolutely no redeeming features - everything about them is tainted. Apologies for the unburdening.

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BringBack_leGin said:

Agree almost entirely, and I understand your point on Pep, but I’d say that great comes in different forms, for him it’s that he takes already top class players and still manages to improve them, while also getting them to adapt to systems and styles which had prior eluded them. He inherited unbelievable talent at Barcelona, but got them to play a way they’d never played before, more disciplined, more unified, and immensely better off the ball. That takes both great coaching (I think it’s harder to turn an 8/10 player into a 9/10 player than to turn a 5/10 player into a 7/10 player) and great tactical nouse.

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scottyboy71 said:

My Spurs going mate went to the Palace game and these were his observations:

Too far from the action
Atmosphere a bit dead in the uppers
Long queues for a half time wee and not enough male loos
Longs queues for a beer
Miss the start of the second half due to queuing
45 minutes of being penned in before getting on a tube
He's paying double what he paid at WHL for a season ticket

As a result he's considering not renewing.

Sounds familiar.

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SlotBadger said:

My favourite titbit from KUMB relates to our new stadium:



Thankfully, someone with a brain (bubbles500) puts him right:

"Too far from the action ? Are you on a wind up, they literally couldn’t be closer. It’s so close there’s barely enough room for corners"​

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Dov67 said:

They're a Toy Club like chelsea.

We have spent £1 billion in the last decade on infrastructure, the stadium, training facilities etc etc. We have financed it ourselves. Nobody has given us a gift, we have not won the lottery.

During the same period, the city of manchester have handed them a brand new stadium and they and chelsea have spent circa £1.4 billion on player transfers and wages gifted to them by a Russian oligarch and an Oil rich Emirate.

Give Bournemouth or Notts County that amount of money for player transfers and wages and they too would "win" a few things.

buying a ferrari after winning a scratch card lottery is not the same as building something with your own hands, toil, effort and brains and using the rewards to buy that Ferrari.

Every trophy bought for them by Roman Abramovich and the Sheikhs is worthless.......you haven't earned it, and without the billions both clubs would be competing with West Ham for 12th place, if they were in the Premier League at all.

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Shadydan said:

Interesting that West Ham fans are the only set of fans who appreciate a good stadium when they see one and admit that ours is brilliant.

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I went last night and honestly I am not sure what I thought of the place.

As an away fan I thought

• Access to the away end was piss poor either going up a busy road that still allowed cars or through or a covered sainsburys car park,
• Entry into the ground was what we should have tbf with metal detectors in abundamce to check you prior to getting near the turnstyles, if we had the same say just after the green fences peoole could go through security then mil about and we in theory wouldn't get queues
• Their turnsyles were an easy jib with the way they are( saw 2 lads run through last night )
• The away concourse was nowt special still as compact and crowded as any other, not that impressive but the use of sheet steel did make for good noise generation with it being banged on like a drum
• Toilets were nice but not fit for a football crowd, troffs are better suited and the floor was quickly full of piss and water.
• Pitchside it is very impressive and the kop end best stand in the country imho
• Acoustics excellent and even on a quiet day would sound bouncing
• View and closeness to pitch is very much like an old ground and godd
• Rail seating, now I am all for it but had mixed feelings with this experience, for me seats seemed more enclosed and tighter, as a replacement for standing in your seat i prefer how we are in the SS now it didn't feel like terracing and really only open terracing would.
• Leaving the ground took a while but I think it is designed that way for crowd control

Overall I would say 8.5/10 a great stadium and pisses on most modern ones.

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raggy said:

Man City fans perspective from the Blue Moon forum;

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worcestersauce said:

This line caught my eye:-
Toilets were nice but not fit for a football crowd, troffs are better suited and the floor was quickly full of piss and water.
Basically saying they are too good for the likes of us, well Mancs anyway.
Good things about the pitch side though.

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Gb160 said:

I read an article about why we don't have 'troffs' as the Manc calls them.
Its to do with the psychology of standing with your cock out right next to other men, stage fright (the time it takes you to start pissing) is much reduced with our urinals, making people piss quicker and therefore less queuing.

Plus no one wants to feel the splashback of the massive bloke you're shoulder to shoulder with at the troff, who's blasting out 12 pints of carling while they're having a slash.

Cant remember where I read it but it was gripping stuff.

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dbdd said:

Only young yids should be in the new south stand. 18 - 30ish. The Park Lane wall.

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lillywhites61 said:

Errr I am 42 and am up singing the whole game mate..

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Wig said:

Guardiola will say whatever to deflect from his team's and his own failings last night. Not playing KDB, Sane, and Bernardo Silva was a big gamble. In any case, we have rattled them and he'll be concerned about their chances in the second leg. He'll remember what Liverpool did to them in the second leg of last year's semi, by keeping it tight at the back and destroying them on the counter, and we have the quality to do replicate that.

Anyway, I loved last night's game and we destroyed their away support in the singing stakes with "Where were you when you were sh*t?" and when they had a very brief song we replied with "We forgot that you were here"! Let's hope we can keep them quiet again in the second leg in Manchester.

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ralvy said:

And he very clearly instructed his players to go a bit rough over Kane and that, combined with the refs inability to show any cards to city players each time they exhibited such behavior, resulted in Harry's season being effectively over.

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