Saoirse
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Obviously dyspraxia is extraordinarily unlikely in this case but yes - I do think we should take care not to be too harsh on a kid who we don't know much about.
Player Watch: Marcus Edwards
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littlewilly
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Agree absolutely on both counts. I'm retired now but if I put my dusty old professional hat on, I would be screaming caution before you begin to label or condemn this young man. (Given what was said about his father, and if true, I might have begun by exploring that relationship.)
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The bit about his father is untrue. His dad was always at the training center and is a gentleman. Not the type to kick up fuss, the twitter post was false.
As neither you or I know the full ins or outs of this matter perhaps better to leave it to those that do to deal with it as they see best no ?
Perhaps it is thought he needs time away from football to think things out and then hopefully come back in for training refreshed and fully focussed ?
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‘Hard work is a minimum. Why do something if you are not going to put your soul into it? That’s one thing I can say with certainty. Whatever happens in my career, I will always have the satisfaction of knowing that I did everything in my power to maximise my potential.’ - Eric Dier
danielneeds
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This is why Poch, and England managers, and reportedly Jose love him - it’s an attitude which is not the norm among all footballers.
Hengy1
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Still think he’s better off being at the club than sitting at home with all his mates.
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Hard work/ the right attitude is the norm for a huge majority of pro footballers. How many of us would love to be footballers when we were kids and then how many actually make it? It's total B.S. that most pros won't have to overcome some setback. Not being thought of as good enough, injury, getting dropped, poor form or luck.
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Danny1
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Well that's a real shame if true, Marcus is so talented but will ultimately throw all that away. Personally I think next year could be a bit of a make or break for him as he will be turning 21 the following year and will take up a squad place if he is still around. I really want him to succeed as I think he could become a truly top player.
I actually think that this is the problem when young English lads get hyped, they get all "big-headed" and think that they have instantly made it. The better young players in the Prem are either foreign or haven't had that level of hype surround them.
I actually think that this is the problem when young English lads get hyped, they get all "big-headed" and think that they have instantly made it. The better young players in the Prem are either foreign or haven't had that level of hype surround them.
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I've read the last 4 pages of this thread and feel , in these pages , that a huge issue hasn't been highlighted .
This kid has all the money he could possibly want . He probably makes more than any of his family have ever done . Wasn't there a new deal made for him to ward off other clubs ,I dread to think how much cash he has to play with .
Some on here seem to think of him having a tough life as in footie stories of old, scrubbing 1st teamers boots etc . Forget that. He's wealthy by any measurement you care to name. This will fuck up a kid big time . Chuck in 'You're Messi' from Poch and there you go .
brendanb50
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Relationships at Norwich seem like they went past the point of no return for him and from what i've read, he can be quite introverted so makes integration difficult in the first place.
Good idea to get him out there in the first place, he can see another pro set up, can see other players, playing for their team's league standing, their careers it's good exposure to the (only slightly) less glamorous side to the game. Unfortunately for whatever reason he's not met this challenge very successfully.
Back with us rather than persevering with an unsuccessful loan makes sense anyway. Poch knows him better than most and will hopefully know what he needs to turn things around, fingers crossed he can.
Good idea to get him out there in the first place, he can see another pro set up, can see other players, playing for their team's league standing, their careers it's good exposure to the (only slightly) less glamorous side to the game. Unfortunately for whatever reason he's not met this challenge very successfully.
Back with us rather than persevering with an unsuccessful loan makes sense anyway. Poch knows him better than most and will hopefully know what he needs to turn things around, fingers crossed he can.
danielneeds
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Dressing rooms can be notoriously prickily towards loan signings, especially ones from big clubs. You get the old pros testing them, to see if they’re the “Billy Bigbollox” type, and then there are players who are fearing their place in the team is threatened. It can be an intimidating thing to step into. Throw into that the fact that you’ve been called the “Mini-Messi” and you have a potent mix.
Maybe the point is getting him to see that.
As some other people have said though, we should be careful about leaping to conclusions about what type of person Edwards is. The Ravel Morrison comparisons are unfair I think; there are a million and one different ways that a teenager can lack the attitude of an elite sportsman.
This must all be quite difficult for Edwards himself. Being in an environment that he is struggling in, the fear that he won’t achieve his ambitions, all of this playing out in public with people constantly speculating on it and criticising him. I get that this is all part and parcel of being a footballer, but he’s still a teenager and it’s been going on since before he was even a professional.
Anyway, people develop at different rates and hopefully he’ll find a way to attain the much sought after “elite mentality” or something close to it soon.
Trix
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Yes I get that but how many chances do you give him? The consequences have to increase in severity or there is no point in having a disciplinary process at all. It's exactly the same in every other profession so why should he be different?
As I have said previously he is an incredibly gifted kid but his application atm does not match. People need to start realising atm he is not the future superstar he could/should have been, and I can see by some of the posts in this thread it's not just Edwards riding his hype train, believing all you need is ability to succeed. When ever you here pro's talking about the best players they will always say the same thing..... "First one at training last one to leave". Had Edwards adapted that philosophy a few years back he'd likely be starting big games for us now, such is his ability.
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danielneeds
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It’s because being 18 and a model pro is not the norm, it’s the exception. Those lads who have their heads screwed on at that age and have the talent are incredibly rare - which is why they usually go for huge money.
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All the gear..no idea.
Often hear pro's reminding us that the football playing career is a short one.
Seems such a shame to waste the opportunity designed to give one a good platform to build a fruitful career.
Often hear pro's reminding us that the football playing career is a short one.
Seems such a shame to waste the opportunity designed to give one a good platform to build a fruitful career.
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I'll agree with this, when I was younger I was extremely shy in certain situations, not around my mates or family, but when around strangers or social gatherings with people i wasn't familiar with.
As such I was labelled arrogant and rude many times, when in fact it was just extreme shyness.
Of course this doesn't excuse the timekeeping issues, but shyness is very often mistaken for arrogance/rudeness.
Trix
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Mate, he is already earning enough to pay someone just to get him up and organised if he wanted to.
danielneeds
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Yep, this is very true. My best mate since school used to be chronically introverted and suffer from depression, and because he is a good looking lad, I used to get other friends of mine who met him telling me they thought he was aloof or arrogant, when the truth was that he was just very shy.
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Have to agree with @Trix sentiments.
Seems far too many are prepared to make excuses or ignore his behaviour because he has a bit of talent.
Sorry, knuckle down, try and do all that is asked of you, maybe do more if you want it enough.
Whilst not sure about the recent comments suggesting his dad was constantly turning up at training and arguing, I would suggest that surely his dad would have. or should have certainly spoke to him about timekeeping.
Whilst not privvy you'd think Norwich would've mentioned it if it's reported in the press. ( yep...I know they are often far from the truth. Gut instinct says not this time)
Shame to see such potential great talent go to waste.
Seems far too many are prepared to make excuses or ignore his behaviour because he has a bit of talent.
Sorry, knuckle down, try and do all that is asked of you, maybe do more if you want it enough.
Whilst not sure about the recent comments suggesting his dad was constantly turning up at training and arguing, I would suggest that surely his dad would have. or should have certainly spoke to him about timekeeping.
Whilst not privvy you'd think Norwich would've mentioned it if it's reported in the press. ( yep...I know they are often far from the truth. Gut instinct says not this time)
Shame to see such potential great talent go to waste.
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