Bournemouth Vs Tottenham: Match Thread

shelfboy68 said:

Agree with this especially as watching some of the liverpool game they have coutihnio he makes things happen, i dont think we have anyone like that if Im honest.

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This is what Pulis had to say in his pre-match presser-

Pulis has admitted the Reds have some fantastic players, highlighting the ability of Adam Lallana and Philippe Coutinho, who rotate and move in contrast with Spurs.

"They’ve got some fantastic players. Their front five are exceptional. They’ve all got the ability of taking players out of the game individually," Pulis in his pre-match press conference.

"They rotate, they move. They’re a little bit different to Tottenham.

http://www.squawka.com/news/pulis-l...tional-but-they-are-different-to-spurs/804843

lunde1 said:

Rather win eight games and lose one so this unbeaten thing is just stupid. 38 points will probably give you a spot in wankership

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But we're averaging over two points a game. We're a point off the top and are still in all competitions having had to deal with injuries to key players. All despite not hitting top gear. I'm pretty content, even more so because of the media wankfest over the likes of the bin dippers who are in top gear. Bournemouth played well today we have to give them some credit. We were not great but not bad.

Geyzer Soze said:

Yeah but it's the fact that it could be better though isn't it. Just because ones doing well doesn't excuse tepid performances

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Playing three games in eight days, including one hard fought draw against CL German opposition away, does.

Gaz_Gammon said:

Add five million to the money spent on Janssen, Sissoko and we could have got a thirty year old called Modric, (and RM would have taken that) but oh no lets find another twenty year old with no end product.

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What in the ever-living the f*** are you talking about?

jonathanhotspur said:

This is what Pulis had to say in his pre-match presser-

Pulis has admitted the Reds have some fantastic players, highlighting the ability of Adam Lallana and Philippe Coutinho, who rotate and move in contrast with Spurs.

"They’ve got some fantastic players. Their front five are exceptional. They’ve all got the ability of taking players out of the game individually," Pulis in his pre-match press conference.

"They rotate, they move. They’re a little bit different to Tottenham.

http://www.squawka.com/news/pulis-l...tional-but-they-are-different-to-spurs/804843

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Have to agree with that its true their movement is brilliant where as our build up play and attack is more laboured and predictable.
Having said that you always feel you can score against liverpool as their defence is average at best having only one clean sheet.
If we had their movement up top then i dont think anyone would stop us this year but we dont and so we are heavily reliant on kane again for goals.

jonathanhotspur said:

that pile of shite of a tactical clusterfuck.

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What do you think the dear leader got wrong?

cliff jones said:

Most of us think we pressed City into defeat, yet fail to see how it's pretty obvious that when we've been pressed like today and by Leverkusen and the Red Scouse that we look pretty beatable?

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Looked beatable? You mean in those games where we didn't get beaten?

lunde1 said:

Rather win eight games and lose one so this unbeaten thing is just stupid. 38 points will probably give you a spot in wankership

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You'd prefer 24 points to 19 points? Hmm, interesting...

mpickard2087 said:

What do you think the dear leader got wrong?

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Not subbing Lamela at half time. Not giving Son a run on the left before hooking him.

Sissoko? If the man has a trick, I have yet to see it. What was the fucking point?

The bench. The bench was a joke. Where the fuck was N'Koudou?

And what's the point of giving CL mins to guys like Onomah and then not even having him in the squad today, when plenty in front of him are playing fucking shit?

I think that was sloppy, unprofessional shit today. We weren't in the zone at all.

jonathanhotspur said:

Not subbing Lamela at half time. Not giving Son a run on the left before hooking him.

Sissoko? If the man has a trick, I have yet to see it. What was the fucking point?

The bench. The bench was a joke. Where the fuck was N'Koudou?

And what's the point of giving CL mins to guys like Onomah and then not even having him in the squad today, when plenty in front of him are playing fucking shit?

I think that was sloppy, unprofessional shit today. We weren't in the zone at all.

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I really hate to be negative about our players, but I just doesn't get Sissoko. Even leaving aside the ridiculous price we paid, what does he do? He's not a game changer. At best I can see how he might offer a bit of extra physical presence late on in a game where we're defending a lead, but in an attacking sense I'm not seeing what he brings to the table.

On a more positive note, we've had back to back clean sheets without Alderweireld. We look very difficult to break down, and well drilled. Plus 90 minutes for Dembele to help get back up to speed.

jonathanhotspur said:

Not subbing Lamela at half time. Not giving Son a run on the left before hooking him.

Sissoko? If the man has a trick, I have yet to see it. What was the fucking point?

The bench. The bench was a joke. Where the fuck was N'Koudou?

And what's the point of giving CL mins to guys like Onomah and then not even having him in the squad today, when plenty in front of him are playing fucking shit?

I think that was sloppy, unprofessional shit today. We weren't in the zone at all.

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If we "weren't in the zone at all" we would have been comprehensively beaten by what was a very good bournemouth performance.

jonathanhotspur said:

Not subbing Lamela at half time. Not giving Son a run on the left before hooking him.

Sissoko? If the man has a trick, I have yet to see it. What was the fucking point?

The bench. The bench was a joke. Where the fuck was N'Koudou?

And what's the point of giving CL mins to guys like Onomah and then not even having him in the squad today, when plenty in front of him are playing fucking shit?

I think that was sloppy, unprofessional shit today. We weren't in the zone at all.

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Agree about the selection and particularly the bench, just been ranting about that in the ratings thread.

I think Bournemouth played a good game, particularly first half, I think we could have pressed them in turn quite a bit better though.

holsten777 said:

If we "weren't in the zone at all" we would have been comprehensively beaten by what was a very good bournemouth performance.

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I think the players that weren't in the zone today were Eriksen, Lamela, Son, and Alli. Their collective decision making in the final third was disappointing, and meant we offered hardly any goal threat.

Pretty solid everywhere else.

We moan about the players a lot and sometimes for good reason and we really do lack creativity and clinical finishing in the final third but I do believe (and I am not saying this as a kneejerk) that Poch himself has to improve in numerous areas if we really want to win a trophy of any sort.

His game management is quite frankly in need of massive improvement, today he subbed off Dele and Son, the two players most likely to get a goal from absolutely nothing and brought on two players who have yet to even show they can make an impact on a game, we lack a plan b and it's not even down to our players, it's tactically, we lack a plan b tactically.

We play one way, which is, press the ball high, if that doesn't work or a team presses us, we fold to the pressure, thankfully our defending is immense because if it wasn't we would be in a lot of trouble.

We try and play through the middle too much, when we do actually stretch teams we look deadly but then we lack the finishing to make it count, we try and overplay it sometimes instead of being direct and unfortunately most of our players aren't that deadly from range and more often than not are either firing it wide or having shots blocked because they are predictable.

If I was Poch right now, I would be having the entire team trying to break down our defensive unit in training, over and over and over again, I would be looking at different formations and how we can stretch teams and become more unpredictable in the final third, I would also be making sure we play quicker forward and that we take more risks as I feel like, just like last season, we are trying too hard to not be beaten rather than taking risks to win games.

Last season we had the best goal difference, we were scoring freely, admittedly Kane was on fire however, we were still cutting teams open but teams have figured our plan out now, so we need to adapt or we will fade.

I hate to admit this but watching the Liverpool game earlier all I could think about was how flexible Klopp has that front 5, none of those players are world beaters and I think we actually have more talented players in our front 5 but yet they move far more dynamically than us, they stretch players and they pull them out of position and that happens because, Klopp adapts on the fly, he has a plan b, we don't and that is something poch needs to look at himself for and try and improve.

Poch is still a young manager and is learning alongside our players and he certainly is a great manager so don't take this as an insult I am simply saying he can and hopefully will be better.

mpickard2087 said:

Agree about the selection and particularly the bench, just been ranting about that in the ratings thread.

I think Bournemouth played a good game, particularly first half, I think we could have pressed them in turn quite a bit better though.

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They had 5 corners in the first 15 minutes but on the whole, I thought they were entirely ordinary.

jonathanhotspur said:

They had 5 corners in the first 15 minutes but on the whole, I thought they were entirely ordinary.

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In an attacking sense yes, worked hard and pressed/harried well though.

Anyone know what the deal with GKN is? He's been AWOL since changing the game in Moscow

jonathanhotspur said:

Not subbing Lamela at half time.

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Every week in the match thread, people howl for half time substitutions. They never happen. With very few exceptions, the only times any substitutions happen at half time are because of injury or when a team is losing badly and being heavily out-competed.

We were being marginally out-competed up to half time, but that was put right immediately thereafter. And we weren't losing.

Pochettino has shown on numerous occasions that he can calm down a player who might be in danger of being sent off and advise them how to stay on the pitch. How many red cards have we had in the past 2 seasons?

But the underlying point is that fans demand half time substitutions when they are unhappy and managers do not make them. Hardly ever. I wonder who knows best.

I've said this before: the one thing missing from this squad is individualism. We have a cohesive structure which makes the whole greater than the sum of its parts - but to make the next step you need quality that can create a spark out of nothing.

Having balance is important but sometimes losing a bit of balance is more effective to hurt the opposition. Bale on the right wouldn't provide the pressing and defending from the front Lamela brings but Bale produces more attacking brilliance which is worth its weight in points.

Spurs' Pipe Dreams said:

1. Liverpool are at home
2. Yes I'm serious, our best start to the season for a really long time.
3. It was pretty much the same team who tore Man City a new one, so hardly impotent in that match!?

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We had 19 points from our opening 9 games, way way back in 2013.
You know, the season AVB resigned in disgrace and Sherwood was sacked.

It could be an eventful season....