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The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - The Get in There!/Oh Woe is Me Edition 28th August 2013

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arunspurs

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I disagree with some of the evaluation of Eriksen.

First of all lets remember that Eriksen is just 21. Now how many 21 yr old footballers in the world have 35+ caps for the national team, a decent team which generally makes it to world cups.

Some say he goes missing in big games and is inconsistent. FFS he is just 21 and what was likes of Bale, Drogba at 21 ?

He brings in certain qualitites we do not have. We have been crying out for a proper corner/dead ball taker. Half of his assist comes in from dead ball/corners. With a strong team like us what we need is proper delivery. Whether Bale or Gylfi or Hudd sald we have not got proper delivery. That is one place we will be deadly.

In last 3 seasons he has scored 32 goals & 65 assists. Surely thats should mean something ?

Then of course his game in open plays - most of the time he struggles, its in games where Ajax don't have possession a lot. When the team has the possession he does find the man. In our team, with good ball retrievers like Capoue, Sandro, Paulinho, Dembele - I can see likes of Eriksen, Lamela have more time on ball and find forwards like Soldado.

I dont understand - people have more confidence in Willian who played in worse league than Dutch and not in Eriksen, who has hardly put a foot wrong.

He goes missing in big games - yet last season has 4 assists & a goal for Ajax against CL teams like City, RM, Dortmund
 

$hoguN

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I think the player being mentioned by Jasper has to be Griezmann or Rodrigo tbh, I can't see it being Munian as he just cannot play as a striker
 

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I disagree with some of the evaluation of Eriksen.

First of all lets remember that Eriksen is just 21. Now how many 21 yr old footballers in the world have 35+ caps for the national team, a decent team which generally makes it to world cups.

Some say he goes missing in big games and is inconsistent. FFS he is just 21 and what was likes of Bale, Drogba at 21 ?

He brings in certin qualitites we do not have. We have been crying out for a proper corner/dead ball taker. Half of his assist comes in from dead ball/corners. With a strong team like us what we need is proper delivery. Whether Bale or Gylfi or Hudd sald we have not got proper delivery. That is one place we will be deadly.

In last 3 seasons he has scored 32 goals & 65 assists. Surely thats hould mean something ?

Then ofcourse his game in open plays - most of the time he struggles, its in games where Ajax don't have possestion a lot. When he has possesion he does find the man. In our team, with good ball retrievers like Capoue, Sandro, Paulinho, Dembele I can see likes of Eriksen, Lamela have more time & ball and find forwards like Soldado.

I dont understand - people have more confidence in Willian who played in worse league than Dutch and not in Eriksen, who has hardly put a foot wrong.

He goes missing in big games - yet last season has 4 assists & a goal for Ajax against CL teams like City, RM, Dortmund
What bugs me about this kind of statement (which i've seen from a lot from our fans in regards to Eriksen) is that it makes it seem like fans expect perfection and 100% domination from players. The modern fan just doesn't understand that the players we're watching are humans, and not video game characters. Inconsistency is the kind of thing that sets apart a 10 million pound player from a 50 million pound player. If he was consistently amazing he would be signing for a club like Real Madrid at a world record fee.... With experience/training the occurrence rate of his flashes of brilliance *should* increase. But the fact of the matter is that those flashes of brilliance and desirable traits definitely are there, there's no denying it, and that's what we should be excited about and looking forward to.
 

ButchCassidy

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Griezmann for me if he is attainable :)


I like Greizmann, but ITK was for a player as a replacement for either Defoe or Ade. Griezmann has played striker or CF exactly once in the last two years (according to transfermarkt). Doubt we would drop 22m on him then shoehorn him in as a striker. Not to mention Sociedad have no reason to let him go as they've just qualified for CL.
 

SonicSarr

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I don't where to go on this site anymore, just so much positive stuff going on and so much to read so I'll just here for a while if no-one minds. :coffee:

Actually turned my PC on with eyes half shut because I was scared it would reveal a Willian-esque turn of events with Lamela (Oh, my Lamela :love:).

The latest ITK is just crazy and suggests a 'Stellar' and a wonderkid striker on top of Eriksen and Vlad (Oh, my Vlad :love:)

This window is sureal. I literally decide on something and it happens. Even though Ljajic didn't come here he enabled the Lamela transfer. Not sure about Willian and he doesn't sign prompting an angry 'splash more cash' reaction from the club which should deliver Eriksen and another Stellar. It is like all our stars are aligning and we are about to become a major force. Which can only mean one thing... the prophecies of a great war and the end of the world are true. It could only happen to Spurs. :(
 

-Afri-Coy-

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I disagree with some of the evaluation of Eriksen.

First of all lets remember that Eriksen is just 21. Now how many 21 yr old footballers in the world have 35+ caps for the national team, a decent team which generally makes it to world cups.

Some say he goes missing in big games and is inconsistent. FFS he is just 21 and what was likes of Bale, Drogba at 21 ?

He brings in certain qualitites we do not have. We have been crying out for a proper corner/dead ball taker. Half of his assist comes in from dead ball/corners. With a strong team like us what we need is proper delivery. Whether Bale or Gylfi or Hudd sald we have not got proper delivery. That is one place we will be deadly.

In last 3 seasons he has scored 32 goals & 65 assists. Surely thats should mean something ?

Then of course his game in open plays - most of the time he struggles, its in games where Ajax don't have possession a lot. When the team has the possession he does find the man. In our team, with good ball retrievers like Capoue, Sandro, Paulinho, Dembele - I can see likes of Eriksen, Lamela have more time on ball and find forwards like Soldado.

I dont understand - people have more confidence in Willian who played in worse league than Dutch and not in Eriksen, who has hardly put a foot wrong.

He goes missing in big games - yet last season has 4 assists & a goal for Ajax against CL teams like City, RM, Dortmund


I think the main problem with Eriksen is his name has been floating around for roughly 4-5 years now and he hasn't made his big breakthrough which many fans have expected him too. A move to a big team doesn't make a world class player and I think Eriksen is the biggest diamond in the rough right now. I feel he is the perfect fit for us creatively and with 65 assists in 3 seasons he has the potential to be our first true play-maker since Modric left. If you don't want Eriksen in our squad you don't know anything about football plain and simple. He is class and anything under 15 million is a steal compared to 30 odd million on Willian.
 

SonicSarr

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I think the main problem with Eriksen is his name has been floating around for roughly 4-5 years now and he hasn't made his big breakthrough which many fans have expected him too. A move to a big team doesn't make a world class player and I think Eriksen is the biggest diamond in the rough right now. I feel he is the perfect fit for us creatively and with 65 assists in 3 seasons he has the potential to be our first true play-maker since Modric left. If you don't want Eriksen in our squad you don't know anything about football plain and simple. He is class and anything under 15 million is a steal compared to 30 odd million on Willian.

I don't know much about him except for youtube clips and the last Euro's and what what I've read but I agree he looks a bargain at the price, or at least worth the punt. As for the 4-5 yrs without a big breakthrough see Capoue. I'm glad we are the club picking these types up.

Strange there is not much ITK on a LB, perhaps Coentrao is a goer now? Next few days are going to be amazing, NLD as well!! COYS!!!
 

-Afri-Coy-

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I like Greizmann, but ITK was for a player as a replacement for either Defoe or Ade. Griezmann has played striker or CF exactly once in the last two years (according to transfermarkt). Doubt we would drop 22m on him then shoehorn him in as a striker. Not to mention Sociedad have no reason to let him go as they've just qualified for CL.

Good point I forgot to mention Sociedad had qualified for CL and that lowers our chances even more.
 

SonicSarr

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Re young striker. SSN just reported we are preparing a 15m bid for Hernandez from Man U. It actually crossed my mind the other day that he would be a good number 2 to Soldado (when Man U were rumoured to be in for Bale). Sounds feasible on the wording of the ITK, Interesting.
 

-Afri-Coy-

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Re young striker. SSN just reported we are preparing a 15m bid for Hernandez from Man U. It actually crossed my mind the other day that he would be a good number 2 to Soldado (when Man U were rumoured to be in for Bale). Sounds feasible on the wording of the ITK, Interesting.

Would absolutely love Hernandez I think his talent is going to waste on the Utd bench. Tricky little striker for defenders to cover and has ample amounts of energy and pace for the EPL.
 

thejames

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Never seen him play, but Muniain is listed as a left winger/striker. On transfermarkt they show him playing right across the line.

He's playing in Spain. (Which I think Jasper is getting at, rather than just Spanish)

He's under 21.

He's the only one I can see that fits the description...

...except his release clause is a reported €40m.
 

arunspurs

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Re young striker. SSN just reported we are preparing a 15m bid for Hernandez from Man U. It actually crossed my mind the other day that he would be a good number 2 to Soldado (when Man U were rumoured to be in for Bale). Sounds feasible on the wording of the ITK, Interesting.

Ideal scenario would be to sell Ade & Defoe if there are offers and get Hernandez in and probably give chances to likes of Kane & Shaq.

Having said that, I can't see United selling Hernandez to us, given the kind of ambition we have shown till now. They would rather loan him to Athletico Madrid (who are after him), than sell to us.
 

Flashspur

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I think we are going to be well stocked for the No. 10 role if we get Eriksen. Eric Lamela started off in the No.10 position in Argentina and was so impressive in that role that Barca wanted him as a teenager until River Plate fought them off. He played No.10 for River and it was Totti at Roma who kept him out of that position. Lamela is versatile enough to play on both wings as an inside forward, second striker and classic No.10. We are buying some extremely versatile players. Other potential No. 10's are Paulinho, Dembele and Chadli who have also played in those positions. It will be interesting to see where AVB starts Lamela.
 

pythonboy

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Re young striker. SSN just reported we are preparing a 15m bid for Hernandez from Man U. It actually crossed my mind the other day that he would be a good number 2 to Soldado (when Man U were rumoured to be in for Bale). Sounds feasible on the wording of the ITK, Interesting.

But where would he prefer to keep the bench warm at? Can't see he'd leave Utd to sit on the bench for us.
 
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