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The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - The Aquarius Edition 22nd July 2013

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o1fozzybear

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'Nobody is in for Huddlestone anymore. I get the feeling he just does not want to move'

Turn him into a CB and have done with it. Then we can purchase at least another 2 CM to take his place.
 

KaNoUtE9

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This is getting better - Higuain to Napoli - all I now want is Suarez to reject Arsenal move and us to finalise Soldado deal.
Higuain to Napoli, Suarez to Madrid, Bernard to Porto if he doesn't join us, Soldado to us and Bale signs a new deal! Carlton cole to Arsenal :D
 

Lilbaz

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Oh god I missed that Huddlestone stuff earlier.

Doesn't want to leave :banghead: Cant we pay him off?

Probably doesn't want to leave london.

Am i the only one happy players like it at spurs? Hopefully fulham or west ham come in for him.
 

EJWTartanSpur

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A late night JJ visit just now would be the equivalent of a breezy aggressive evening session innings to conclude a fine days play
 

Ossie85

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Is the general feeling that 28 is too old now? I thought the peak years were about 27-32 depending how fit the player is and how much they rely on pace? I think Soldado could be a top striker for us for 4+ years (if he adapts etc) while if Benteke turned out to be top class, he might have wanted to leave after two or three. Who knows but I think Soldado could easily score more than Benteke next season if do get him.

I had that same thought. Worried about spending that money in a 28yr old.
Until I remembered Villa signed for Barcelona being 28 (almost 29) and for 40m
 

Robbienlondon

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Not to dampen the mood but I wonder if we are spending big now because we know we can balance the books next year by selling GB. I hope not but its possible?
 

Bus-Conductor

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No I think you are missing the point, after moving up from around the mid table area to the coat tails of top four we have pretty much trod water for 7 years on fifth, sure Harry got us to one CL and was cruelly denied a second, but the reality is that to get regular CL much less make a serious challenge for the title or indeed winning the CL you need a balanced team with realk quality and a depth of quality in the squad. In the past years our weaknesses in certain key areas and in the depth of quality and those failings have meant we have missed out. Now at times you can buy young players of real potential and with resale potential to enable us to afford more new replacements if they leave, but the fact of the matter is those quality players that ideally you wish to keep to give a fair crack at regular CL football and to seriously challenge have moved on and still we have failed to fill the team with a balance and quality necessary. You then reach a critical stage where you need to decide if you continue to tread water or go for it and if you decide you want to go for it then sometimes you have to fill the key gaps with players that can deliver now rather than maybe 2 years time when maybe one or two other existing key players have left. It's not a matter of simply signing potential that can prove good in a year or two years and ultimately sell for big profits but to get one or two players that you can have far greater belief that they can affect things now. Obviously every new signing is a gamble but when you go for players that have proven their quality over a number of seasons then the odds are stacked better in your favour than a player who has done it once or maybe not really done it at all but looks to have the potential too

The benefits can outweigh the costs too, if we had bought Soldato last season or Negredo for say £25 mill and this season earned £35 mill from CL then not only would we have made a tidy profit but also have a fully paid striker for the following three years. As it is we still have to pay for a striker now and have no CL revenue

There are other factors and I imagine things like raising funding, sponsorship, naming rights etc are possibly in the mind of the board right now, far easier to raise funds when you have one of the top names in football playing for you and far better still if you are seen to be competing against the best teams in the world.

At the end of the day the success of a football club is measured by it's trophy cabinet not it's balance sheet, for sure it's an important part but you can't get hung up on focussing on players that might make a long term profit and lose sight of players that can give you shorter term success


We are not just a football club though. We are a business with football as it's core activity.

Arthurgrimsdale was right, you are completely missing his point. It's not just about money, Levy understand's that on pitch performance will have a/the most positive influence on turnover and profit (both in terms of individual players and collectively the team). Players aren't bought just because they a viable business propositions, they are bought to fulfil various, mutually inclusive purposes, and one component of that is to comply with normal self sustaining risk/reward financial parameters and not based on some fanciful notion of what might be if a big gamble might pay off.

Generally speaking.
 

Snarfalicious

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Not to dampen the mood but I wonder if we are spending big now because we know we can balance the books next year by selling GB. I hope not but its possible?


It makes sense. Best case scenario is with the TV money and hopefully a hugely successful season with a Champions League berth we could see Bale hang around just not spend much at all next summer.
 
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