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JUSTINSIGNAL

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That was before his loan spell to be fair. He could feel differently after seeing him perform in the Prem.

It wasn’t. He said this in April

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daryl hannah

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Get the feeling whoever buys Lo Celso would deploy him in AM rather than deeper.

Athletico with all that cash from Griezemann sale probably prime candidates.

Tielemans will probably end up at Utd. Shame.
 

worcestersauce

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Get the feeling whoever buys Lo Celso would deploy him in AM rather than deeper.

Athletico with all that cash from Griezemann sale probably prime candidates.

Tielemans will probably end up at Utd. Shame.
Do you think he's the quality United are looking for? I'm just not seeing it I'm afraid.
 

double0

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I think someone needs to have a word with Poch... How can he not rate this Kid.. Young can be moulded and he will only get better.

For all the success we've had under Poch I must doubt his ability on player identification if he isn't interested in Tielemans.....

His development level and potential reminds me of Eriksen when we signed him 6/7yrs ago.
maybe he sees a path way blocked for one of our own ie Skipp Amos Onomah
 

piedpiper

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maybe he sees a path way blocked for one of our own ie Skipp Amos Onomah

I did think that too, but poor Onomah doesn't seem to have a future or winning his battle to play in his natural cm position. Skipp is just breaking through and doesn't command games yet (which is. understandable given his age) we need to kick on now with real quality.

I'm not clamouring for the latest highly priced player Ala Ndombele etc... I want players like Tielemans who will only improve in our league and us reasonably priced.

Frustrating that Leicester are so successful with our model... Tielemans(yes he hasn't signed), Harry Maguire, Maddison, Ben Chilwell etc.

We don't need to buy established stars.... In the next phase infuse a quality star where needed with promising youngsters hungry to succeed mixed with our management and its a winning recipe. Which I believe will set us up for constant finishes in CL positions AND challenging for Titles & Cup trophies.
 

double0

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I did think that too, but poor Onomah doesn't seem to have a future or winning his battle to play in his natural cm position. Skipp is just breaking through and doesn't command games yet (which is. understandable given his age) we need to kick on now with real quality.

I'm not clamouring for the latest highly priced player Ala Ndombele etc... I want players like Tielemans who will only improve in our league and us reasonably priced.

Frustrating that Leicester are so successful with our model... Tielemans(yes he hasn't signed), Harry Maguire, Maddison, Ben Chilwell etc.

We don't need to buy established stars.... In the next phase infuse a quality star where needed with promising youngsters hungry to succeed mixed with our management and its a winning recipe. Which I believe will set us up for constant finishes in CL positions AND challenging for Titles & Cup trophies.

Leicesters model in the cold light of day has taken them backwards in regards to them winning the league. I really don’t get the hype around Maddison for example imo Grealish is by far the better player but will concede they have recruited pretty well.

I think we will recruit this window and in our case need starting 11 players . The issue we had at the time Bournemouth and Leicester was recruiting players...not one of their players at the time could get into our team.
 

archiewasking

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Leicesters model in the cold light of day has taken them backwards in regards to them winning the league. I really don’t get the hype around Maddison for example imo Grealish is by far the better player but will concede they have recruited pretty well.

I think we will recruit this window and in our case need starting 11 players . The issue we had at the time Bournemouth and Leicester was recruiting players...not one of their players at the time could get into our team.

Puzzled that neither MoPo nor your good self rate Maddison. Saw a stat on Sky where he's created more chances last season - 100 - than anyone else. Surely that's something we sorely need?
 

piedpiper

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Leicesters model in the cold light of day has taken them backwards in regards to them winning the league. I really don’t get the hype around Maddison for example imo Grealish is by far the better player but will concede they have recruited pretty well.

I think we will recruit this window and in our case need starting 11 players . The issue we had at the time Bournemouth and Leicester was recruiting players...not one of their players at the time could get into our team.

I think Maddison was a good signing he has difinetly improved in his first season with Leicester and will get better.

Leicester haven't gone backwards but what has happened is they have stabilized as a team. They no longer a relegation candidate. They can sell on the talent which they have purchased to further strengthen and become a consistent top 10 team.

Remember Blackburn... They went backwards. Leicester has themselves up for consistent middle to top 10 finishes
 

piedpiper

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Indeed. Their fans must really be looking forward to playing Liverpool in the CL final ... oh wait ... :rolleyes:.

Come on stop being silly. .... if you want to engage in a meaningful discussion then be my guest but if the sum total of your input is churlish comments as above I see no further point in discussing this further.

There is nothing wrong in acknowledging another teams success.
 
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fatpiranha

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Come on stop being silly. .... if you want to engage in a meaningful discussion then be my guest but if the sum total of your input is churlish comments as above I see no further point in discussing this further.

There is nothing wrong in acknowledging another teams success.

Apart from their title win in 2015/16 what success? :confused:

Since then they are on their 4th manager (7th if you include caretaker managers) and have not achieved anything. Of the successful transfers you quote Chilwell came from their youth system, Maguire from Hull for £17m who paid £2.5m for him a couple of years earlier, Tielemans (who they got on loan and probably won't keep), and Maddison who we knew all about and decided wasn't worth it.

None of these players are ones we obviously missed out on and you fail to mention the roaring success of their other transfers in the last 3 seasons such as Islam Slimani 29m, Iheanacho 25m, Adrien Silva 22m, Iborra 12.5m, Danny Ward 12.5m, Rachid Ghezzal 25m, and Caglar Soyuncu 19m.

So basically an absolute f***ing train wreck and an example we should avoid at all costs.

Hope this post in "meaningful" enough for you ;).
 

piedpiper

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Apart from their title win in 2015/16 what success? :confused:

Since then they are on their 4th manager (7th if you include caretaker managers) and have not achieved anything. Of the successful transfers you quote Chilwell came from their youth system, Maguire from Hull for £17m who paid £2.5m for him a couple of years earlier, Tielemans (who they got on loan and probably won't keep), and Maddison who we knew all about and decided wasn't worth it.

None of these players are ones we obviously missed out on and you fail to mention the roaring success of their other transfers in the last 3 seasons such as Islam Slimani 29m, Iheanacho 25m, Adrien Silva 22m, Iborra 12.5m, Danny Ward 12.5m, Rachid Ghezzal 25m, and Caglar Soyuncu 19m.

So basically an absolute f***ing train wreck and an example we should avoid at all costs.

Hope this post in "meaningful" enough for you ;).

Yes that's better. Sure they've had their hits and misses like any other club us included. The point though is they scouring the leagues for talent. I liked what we did with Eriksen/Toby Vertonghen/Davies/Trippier and Dele etc. It's served us well.... So let's continue on that path and mix signings like the above with the odd super potential as we did with Sanchez.

I just get frustrated when I read comments that player X can't improve our starting 11..we need a squad which is competitive. Thanks for the more reasoned response (y).
 

thisismyback

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Apart from their title win in 2015/16 what success? :confused:

Since then they are on their 4th manager (7th if you include caretaker managers) and have not achieved anything. Of the successful transfers you quote Chilwell came from their youth system, Maguire from Hull for £17m who paid £2.5m for him a couple of years earlier, Tielemans (who they got on loan and probably won't keep), and Maddison who we knew all about and decided wasn't worth it.

None of these players are ones we obviously missed out on and you fail to mention the roaring success of their other transfers in the last 3 seasons such as Islam Slimani 29m, Iheanacho 25m, Adrien Silva 22m, Iborra 12.5m, Danny Ward 12.5m, Rachid Ghezzal 25m, and Caglar Soyuncu 19m.

So basically an absolute f***ing train wreck and an example we should avoid at all costs.

Hope this post in "meaningful" enough for you ;).

Damn. Well said.
 

double0

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Apart from their title win in 2015/16 what success? :confused:

Since then they are on their 4th manager (7th if you include caretaker managers) and have not achieved anything. Of the successful transfers you quote Chilwell came from their youth system, Maguire from Hull for £17m who paid £2.5m for him a couple of years earlier, Tielemans (who they got on loan and probably won't keep), and Maddison who we knew all about and decided wasn't worth it.

None of these players are ones we obviously missed out on and you fail to mention the roaring success of their other transfers in the last 3 seasons such as Islam Slimani 29m, Iheanacho 25m, Adrien Silva 22m, Iborra 12.5m, Danny Ward 12.5m, Rachid Ghezzal 25m, and Caglar Soyuncu 19m.

So basically an absolute f***ing train wreck and an example we should avoid at all costs.

Hope this post in "meaningful" enough for you ;).

You gave very comprehensive examples of the complete waste of money Leicester city have made on transfers, it's really nothing to shout on the hill about (the grass isn't always greener) Bournemouth imo have been far better overall.
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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Come on stop being silly. .... if you want to engage in a meaningful discussion then be my guest but if the sum total of your input is churlish comments as above I see no further point in discussing this further.

There is nothing wrong in acknowledging another teams success.

Apart from their title win in 2015/16 what success? :confused:

Since then they are on their 4th manager (7th if you include caretaker managers) and have not achieved anything. Of the successful transfers you quote Chilwell came from their youth system, Maguire from Hull for £17m who paid £2.5m for him a couple of years earlier, Tielemans (who they got on loan and probably won't keep), and Maddison who we knew all about and decided wasn't worth it.

None of these players are ones we obviously missed out on and you fail to mention the roaring success of their other transfers in the last 3 seasons such as Islam Slimani 29m, Iheanacho 25m, Adrien Silva 22m, Iborra 12.5m, Danny Ward 12.5m, Rachid Ghezzal 25m, and Caglar Soyuncu 19m.

So basically an absolute f***ing train wreck and an example we should avoid at all costs.

Hope this post in "meaningful" enough for you ;).


 

ebzrascal

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Apart from their title win in 2015/16 what success? :confused:

Since then they are on their 4th manager (7th if you include caretaker managers) and have not achieved anything. Of the successful transfers you quote Chilwell came from their youth system, Maguire from Hull for £17m who paid £2.5m for him a couple of years earlier, Tielemans (who they got on loan and probably won't keep), and Maddison who we knew all about and decided wasn't worth it.

None of these players are ones we obviously missed out on and you fail to mention the roaring success of their other transfers in the last 3 seasons such as Islam Slimani 29m, Iheanacho 25m, Adrien Silva 22m, Iborra 12.5m, Danny Ward 12.5m, Rachid Ghezzal 25m, and Caglar Soyuncu 19m.

So basically an absolute f***ing train wreck and an example we should avoid at all costs.

Hope this post in "meaningful" enough for you ;).

The increase in value of Maguire, Chilwell, Gray and Maddison would easily recoup the £120 million spent on the underperforming players which they could likely get back £60+ million on.

I think they have been pretty brave in the transfer market and it's worked for them. I would like us to take a few more risks in that respect as you only need to find one or two players to make it all worth it such are increase in a players valuation these days if you find a diamond.
 

Sweech

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Apart from their title win in 2015/16 what success? :confused:

Since then they are on their 4th manager (7th if you include caretaker managers) and have not achieved anything. Of the successful transfers you quote Chilwell came from their youth system, Maguire from Hull for £17m who paid £2.5m for him a couple of years earlier, Tielemans (who they got on loan and probably won't keep), and Maddison who we knew all about and decided wasn't worth it.

None of these players are ones we obviously missed out on and you fail to mention the roaring success of their other transfers in the last 3 seasons such as Islam Slimani 29m, Iheanacho 25m, Adrien Silva 22m, Iborra 12.5m, Danny Ward 12.5m, Rachid Ghezzal 25m, and Caglar Soyuncu 19m.

So basically an absolute f***ing train wreck and an example we should avoid at all costs.

Hope this post in "meaningful" enough for you ;).
I can still remember the absolute shitstorm it was in here with everyone whinging about not signing Iheanacho.
 
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