Women's Football - Wage Disparity Debate

nailsy

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Can't be arsed to dredge back through the whole thread but I'm pretty sure there are people arguing that it's inequality/discrimination if the women get paid less than the men. If there aren't then I must've got the wrong end of the stick somewhere, in which case I apologise. I think part of the trouble is that there are 2 or 3 separate discussion to be had and they all keep getting lumped into the same thing when they're not. The US women being paid more by their federation than the men is one of them, and that I fully support.
No need to appolagise, like you say it's been a meandering thread with several issues being lumped together. Some of us have argued that the money going into the women's game should be increased considering the amount in the FIFA reserves, but I don't think anyone on here has said the prize money should be equal to the men. I don't think any of the women's players have said that either.
 

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well if you read that article in the Washington Post, the women are deliberately mis-stating the facts by presenting a scenario under the old collective bargaining agreement where they make 40% of the men for 20 games. Under the current collective bargaining agreement they make 89% of the men. Not completely equal but much closer than they say.

As I said, if you separated the TV/sponsorship contracts you'd know exactly who generates what money.
 

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I see nothing wrong about the US women getting the same wage for an international tournament match fee as the men do. The ladies actually win trophies.

I saw a stat that said atletico madrid ladies vs barca ladies got a crowd of 68k which is impressive but then you read how much tickets were, less than a fiver, and season ticket holders got in free it doesnt sound great. You basically have to give tickets away to get the big crowds in.

I read the average wage of a women pro footballer is 30k a year. Is that fair or bad?

Their game is building in popularity and I hope it continues to do so.
 
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well if you read that article in the Washington Post, the women are deliberately mis-stating the facts by presenting a scenario under the old collective bargaining agreement where they make 40% of the men for 20 games. Under the current collective bargaining agreement they make 89% of the men. Not completely equal but much closer than they say.

As I said, if you separated the TV/sponsorship contracts you'd know exactly who generates what money.
When it comes to ticket revenue, the USWNT has made $2mil more than the USMNT over the past 3 seasons. They should be getting the same amount of money.
 

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well if you read that article in the Washington Post, the women are deliberately mis-stating the facts by presenting a scenario under the old collective bargaining agreement where they make 40% of the men for 20 games. Under the current collective bargaining agreement they make 89% of the men. Not completely equal but much closer than they say.

As I said, if you separated the TV/sponsorship contracts you'd know exactly who generates what money.
Can you post a link to the article?
 

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When it comes to ticket revenue, the USWNT has made $2mil more than the USMNT over the past 3 seasons. They should be getting the same amount of money.
ticket revenue is 25% of gross revenue. TV/sponsorship/merchandise makes up the rest. The only way to know who generates what is to separate the contracts. And its 900,000 more over 3 years.
 

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US government is now starting to creep into this. Threatening to withhold 2026 funding unless the wage gap is done away with. Funding should absolutely be withheld from that joke of a bid but not because of the wage gap(which needs to be closed). Funding should be withheld because the powers that be within the game at this point in time do not deserve any help putting on a tournament of the game they care very little about growing and only care about whats in their wallets. Why give those assholes even more money?

I have an issue with this equal pay movement in the game here. It's not going far enough. All it will do is give the USSF a pass on the disgraceful dereliction of their duties. All this equal pay stuff is passing on the opportunity to project real, actual change. The pay for both men and the women should be more, the women should absolutely get paid much more than the men based on merit, and more funding should be provided to actually grow and develop the game. And the nepotism displayed by the USSF should be done away with and all parties partaking in that should be fired.
 
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