Winter Transfer Wishlist

[spids]

I mean look at the state of Sterling a few seasons back. Inconsistent, and had no idea what to do in the final third. Now he looks a whole new player since Pep, so maybe we need to give Sessegnon a chance with Poch and bring out his full potential. I think he will be an upgrade on Davies who has kind of peaked. With Davies you already know what you're going to get, but sometimes we need to go up a gear and I think Sessegnon would bring that under the right management. He's magic you know

Sessegnon will not play LWB - he now very much see's himself as a CF/RWF - similar to Bale's transformation with us. Difference is Sessegnon is not smashing in 30+ goals a season.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Tbh I’d class then both as B2B but I’d use both as the Waynama replacement and would prefer a creative player for a Dembele replacement.

Ndombele is better at breaking out with the ball but Diawara is better in getting in and out tight situations and spreading passes around.

Obviously take both but it looks like Diawara would be easier to get.

Interesting, for me I find Diawara very much a personification of the modern DM, IE a cross between an anchor man and a deep lying playmaker. He very rarely gets in the box. He always sits deep and looks to intercept and transition the ball. His passing range is superior.

Ndombele is much more aggressive in his play and tends to sit further forward, often braking into the box. He can do the deep role but I would not ideally start him as a DM. When playing with wing backs you need a DM to sit deeper to avoid the counter. For me we would not be making the most of Ndombeles talents if we played him at DM.

Both are very good tho, and would be very happy with ether but I wouldn't want to replace Vic with Ndombele and Dembele with Diawara.

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

Bale was Incredible on his debut against man utd where he played left midfield so no what you said was not true. His injury shook him badly though. Bale was a whole different level at the same age. Sessengon is nowhere near Bales level at the same age. Ridiculous comparison.

Sessengon is so overrated its ridiculous. I doubt he will be more than a mid table player in prem or championship.

Bale was terrible at LB for us, there's a reason why Benoit Assou-Ekotto was brought back in from the dark to play there. I said Bale was "relatively" poor because he did start off very well for us, especially with goals against Fulham and Arsenal. But after that, he was poor.

Also, please try to read my post properly before taking such an aggressive tone. I was comparing the way they were nurtured, not their abilities. If i was trying to point score, which you seem to be doing, I'd say that Sessegnon hugely outscored Bale by the same age.

 

[Lilbaz]

Times didn’t make it sound like a proposal. Sounds like something that will have to implemented once Brexit is sorted.

It's a proposal by the fa. The fa are not in charge of the pl. The pl will have to vote it in with a 2/3 majority. Which isn't going to happen.
The fa are trying to force the premier league to agree to the proposal by saying they will grant work permits to current eu players in the prem if they agree. But may has already agreed that eu workers already in the uk will be protected.

 

[Trees]

Sessegnon would be a very good buy depending on the fee 20-25 million is a fair price, when you hear 50 million just forget it.

I see Sessegnon as a wingback not a winger. I would also go again for Grealish maximum 30 million and still have hope for Onomah.

First two points. I agree. Onomah disagree sorry.

 

[DJS]

Sessegnon will not play LWB - he now very much see's himself as a CF/RWF - similar to Bale's transformation with us. Difference is Sessegnon is not smashing in 30+ goals a season.

I've only seen him play down left side for Fulham, be it left midfield or full back?

And Bale didn't get 30+ goals for us, he got 26 in total in last season and before that 12 was highest so he took a few seasons with a top tier club to reach his peak.

 

[Lilbaz]

It's a proposal by the fa. The fa are not in charge of the pl. The pl will have to vote it in with a 2/3 majority. Which isn't going to happen.
The fa are trying to force the premier league to agree to the proposal by saying they will grant work permits to current eu players in the prem if they agree. But may has already agreed that eu workers already in the uk will be protected.

Thinking about it, when are they protected from? Is it march this year?
Also may effect work permits for future signings if the fa can refuse?

Think this may become an issue in the future and there will be negotiations happening. Championship and lower will probably be effected. Will be interesting to see what happens.

 

[Lighty64]

Son i believe has a better goals to game ratio to kane when he's played as striker for us. Moura can also play there and we always have llorente. We don't need anyone at the moment for that position.

when Kane was out the second part of last season, we looked as good without him and our scoring didn't go down. still can't work out why Poch brought him on so late v Chelsea when we was 3-1 up

 

[coys200]

With what players?

No idea not my job lol. But someone £10m better than what we got.

 

[Shadydan]

when Kane was out the second part of last season, we looked as good without him and our scoring didn't go down. still can't work out why Poch brought him on so late v Chelsea when we was 3-1 up

Probably to get paid a bonus.

 

[double0]

No idea not my job lol. But someone £10m better than what we got.

Yeah but as a fan you might have an opinion.

 

[thefierycamel]

Ndombele and Diawara would complement each other. Especially with someone like winks next to them, who loves to tick it over and has a decent passing range of his own as well as some ball carrying ability. Would mean that we'd have the capability of passing through the lines as well as dribbling through them. That sort of midfield is very hard to defend because there are so many options available to them. Unlikely to get even one of them though, let alone both so it's complete fantasy, nice thinking about though.

 

[spids]

I've only seen him play down left side for Fulham, be it left midfield or full back?

I presume you haven't watched Fulham much in the last 12 months then. He was a LB/LWB (his best position IMO) but then moved to the left wing proper and then across to the right. One game you should remember - against us earlier this season he played on the right of a front 3. If you cast your mind back he came in at the back post and totally fluffed a right footed tap in which went back across goal and Mitrovic headed in for their goal. In the first half of the same game he got between Davies and Vertonghen with a diagonal run from the right and drew a good save from Lloris who was quick of his line.

The Fulham players heatmap (average position) from that game can be seen here:

http://origin.spurs.realise.com/matchcentre/tottenham-hotspur-vs-fulham-18082018/

 

[danielneeds]

To be honest, in order to get Ndombele now or in the summer it means paying through the nose. Aulas will know exactly what he's got, and I just can't see us shelling out top dollar to pry him away, and I'm sure someone else will.

 

[DJS]

I presume you haven't watched Fulham much in the last 12 months then. He was a LB/LWB (his best position IMO) but then moved to the left wing proper and then across to the right. One game you should remember - against us earlier this season he played on the right of a front 3. If you cast your mind back he came in at the back post and totally fluffed a right footed tap in which went back across goal and Mitrovic headed in for their goal. In the first half of the same game he got between Davies and Vertonghen with a diagonal run from the right and drew a good save from Lloris who was quick of his line.

The Fulham players heatmap (average position) from that game can be seen here:

http://origin.spurs.realise.com/matchcentre/tottenham-hotspur-vs-fulham-18082018/

No haven't watched them much, more going by line-ups I've seen posted and only one I've seen where he has played inverted right side was against us oddly enough.

All the others he is showing as on the left side and occasionally at left back.

Have you been watching many of their games? Maybe Sky Sports have cocked the line-ups up otherwise.

He looks well daft in his pic as well tilted his head to the side like a bay boy lol.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

To be honest, in order to get Ndombele now or in the summer it means paying through the nose. Aulas will know exactly what he's got, and I just can't see us shelling out top dollar to pry him away, and I'm sure someone else will.

Yes to a degree, but they were willing to sell their captain and talisman Fekir for around 50 mil. He is by far their most influential and important player, so I can't see anyone in their ranks costing more. So I guess it depends how much one values Ndombele. For me, I would have no issues spending 45 mil or so on him considering we spent 40 on Sanchez and our need for a CM that does pretty much exactly what he does.

 

[dtxspurs]

Eriksen, Alli, Winks, Lamela are all passers.
The only midfielder we have capable of breaking lines is Sissoko. (and of course Dembele)

I think there are massive differences in the types of passers that Lamela and Alli are compared to Winks & Eriksen. We need another player who can dictate tempo. Alli at times is painfully slow on the ball most of the time. Midfielder is sort of like point guard in basketball where you need to setup players and get everyone involved, I don't think Alli and Lamela play with that sort of style. And not to mention 3 of those 4 are primarily attacking midfield players.

The best teams in the world play with passers in the middle of the pitch, not dribblers.

 

[Japhet]

Yes to a degree, but they were willing to sell their captain and talisman Fekir for around 50 mil. He is by far their most influential and important player, so I can't see anyone in their ranks costing more. So I guess it depends how much one values Ndombele. For me, I would have no issues spending 45 mil or so on him considering we spent 40 on Sanchez and our need for a CM that does pretty much exactly what he does.

I think the hike in stadium costs will unfortunately rule us out of any big money signings. The only way it happens is if we sell one of ours for a similar amount IMO.

 

[brendanb50]

I think the hike in stadium costs will unfortunately rule us out of any big money signings. The only way it happens is if we sell one of ours for a similar amount IMO.

Hard time to buy as well as offload in January but i hope we can clear a bit of dead wood and make at least one signing. Perhaps that's optimistic but we're clearly lacking some depth.

 

[dtxspurs]

Hard time to buy as well as offload in January but i hope we can clear a bit of dead wood and make at least one signing. Perhaps that's optimistic but we're clearly lacking some depth.

I believe ITK stated it may be easier to offload in January as teams may be desperate to get player in. Fingers crossed for Janssen and GKN at the very least. Wanyama would be a prime candidate for me as well to move in January, his fitness is a major issue and I think we desperately need a holding/defensive midfielder in. That would open a HG spot as well that we would be able to plug in.