Winter Transfer Wishlist

[DaSpurs]

Agree tbh, this idea that it’s all about passing the ball quickly is a bit of a myth imo. You need people capable of playing on the half turn, traveling with the ball and allowing your team to move up as a unit. Pinging the ball quickly to an isolated Alli, son or Lamela is not always the best option.

I think you can see it this year, our games are very up and down, more end to end. We don’t really dominate teams anymore and build up sustained pressure, were finding it hard to back up play and win the ball back as well. Not much prescense in midfield at the moment.

I don't think the change away from "sustained pressure" is necessarily a bad thing, as according to how I view things it seems to have coincided with Poch becoming more tactically flexible. Many teams found that if they simply sat back and forced us into crosses, we could rather easily be dealt with.

As for presence, I do agree that we currently lack it atm. However, I don't think the above two are necessarily associated. For instance, a possession-oriented game can establish the sustained pressure without presence, and does often happen in many leagues around the world. As such, it's actually not a myth that passing quickly isn't important for driving the ball forward. Yes, I would like to see our midfielders push the ball forward with the ball at feet more, but don't let Dembele's uniqueness fool you, as this trait doesn't always correlate with physicality.

 

[ItsBoris]

Harry winks.

I'm not sure I would classify him as a Carrick-type number 6, he's better as a little more advanced player imo.

Maybe I should say we need a Fernandinho-esque player to keep the comparison more modern.

 

[JonnySpurs]

To clarify around Sessegnon. I'm not saying he's a bad player or that he's not talented, however, I don't really understand the hype based on what I've seen of him. He doesn't stand out to me when I watch him play. We all look for different things in players and different attributes impress different people but to me, I watch a player like Sancho and instantly his ability/potential leaps out at you, I don't see that from Sess YET but I would never sit here and say he won't be a great player.

He is very young and he's holding his own in the prem so clearly he'll be a good pro but whether he'd ever be worth 50m I'm not so sure and certainly not right now.

If we're going for a new LB then I'd much prefer we go for someone a little older and more established.

 

[daryl hannah]

Is Diawara worth £44m?

 

[DJS]

Sessegnon price is victim of the crazy transfer market at moment.

English players for quite a while have cost more than a player of equal quality from abroad.

And now with some of the fees being thrown around by the big boys it’s raised them even more meaning a potential English talent like sessegnon’s price is gonna shoot right up.

 

[spids]

Sessegnon's performances has shown that he is not worth £50M as he is not a match winner in the premier league .... yet.

 

[Tottenhamboy85]

Is Diawara worth £44m?

If he’s available we should be all over him.

Imo he’ll be a better buy than Ndombele as he’s as good defensively but much better on the Ball.

 

[daryl hannah]

With this speculation swimming about concerning half of squads will need to be home grown if the FA change the rules, it does seem more likely we'll be looking to the championship to do our future shopping.

Grealish and Sessegnon is just the start of our interest.

So perhaps there's some truth to the rumour about Ollie Watkins.

 

[Mr Pink]

Dacoure at Watford?

 

[spids]

I think we only need 2 players:

• A powerful / aggressive LB/LWB who offers more going forwards than Davies (seeing as Rose appears to be perm-a-crocked these days).
• A DCM (sorry to say Wanyama and Dembele are on the decline and need to be replaced either this winter or next summer). I like the idea of getting Barrios as competition for Dier to partner Winks in the middle long term, with the emergence of Sissoko as an option and also with Dele and Erisken both able to play deeper if required.

I am quite happy with Aurier / Trippier. I know Trippier had a month to forget defensively, but he is continually one of our biggest creators of chances offensively and when we play 3 at the back has license to really hurt teams. And even if we did offload one of our RBs I'd like to see KWP get a run as long term he could be better than both.

We're more than fine at CB with the continued emergence of Foythto compete with Vertonghen, Alderweireld and Sanchez (with Dier also providing deep cover). Even if Alderweireld goes next summer I suspect we may be o.k. and promote Foyth in the pecking order.

We probably should offload Llorente (and allow him a final swansong in La Liga), but even if we bought a replacement as competition for Kane, I doubt the new player would be ahead of the likes of Son, Lamela, Moura in Poch's pecking order, and would not get enough minutes to play into any kind of form. It would be interesting to have a CF who can lead the line and run in behind, and play Kane behind him as a 10, but that would cost the likes of Dele / Eriksen / Moura / Lamela / Son a place in the side and I don't think we should.

 

[dontcallme]

Sessegnon price is victim of the crazy transfer market at moment.

English players for quite a while have cost more than a player of equal quality from abroad.

And now with some of the fees being thrown around by the big boys it’s raised them even more meaning a potential English talent like sessegnon’s price is gonna shoot right up.

True but it is not only English talent. Prem clubs are cash rich and not as reliant on transfer fees for funding anymore.

Any player performing well in the Prem immediately gets a sky high fee. Richarlison is the most recent example.

Not to say he’s a bad player of course but his fee skyrocketed on the basis of showing potential in the prem.

The question for us is do we look for talent from teams and countries who aren’t cash rich or do we identify individual talent and just pay the fee?

Our history suggests we will look for value over going all out for a target. Again not necessarily a bad thing.

 

[double0]

Sessegnon would be a very good buy depending on the fee 20-25 million is a fair price, when you hear 50 million just forget it.

I see Sessegnon as a wingback not a winger. I would also go again for Grealish maximum 30 million and still have hope for Onomah.

 

[coys200]

Just seen foreign quota gonna be slashed from 17 to 12 due to Brexit wonder how soon will be implemented.

 

[danielneeds]

Just seen foreign quota gonna be slashed from 17 to 12 due to Brexit wonder how soon will be implemented.

It's currently only a proposal. I'd be surprised if a majority of PL clubs would vote it in.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

If he’s available we should be all over him.

Imo he’ll be a better buy than Ndombele as he’s as good defensively but much better on the Ball.

Diawara is a DM tho and Ndombele is a B2B, so one would replace Vic and the other Dembele. Personally I think its the other way round, Diawara is better defensively and Ndombele better on the ball. Diawara does have very good technique but Ndombele is much better at moving the ball forward on the dribble. Saying all that, Ndombele is much more established in the first team and further along in his development then Diawara. Would be very happy with both but we really need a B2B to replace Dembele IMO and Ndombele would be the ideal signing for us.

 

[coys200]

It's currently only a proposal. I'd be surprised if a majority of PL clubs would vote it in.

Times didn’t make it sound like a proposal. Sounds like something that will have to implemented once Brexit is sorted.

 

[olliec]

I mean look at the state of Sterling a few seasons back. Inconsistent, and had no idea what to do in the final third. Now he looks a whole new player since Pep, so maybe we need to give Sessegnon a chance with Poch and bring out his full potential. I think he will be an upgrade on Davies who has kind of peaked. With Davies you already know what you're going to get, but sometimes we need to go up a gear and I think Sessegnon would bring that under the right management. He's magic you know

 

[coys200]

I think if we were brave we could upgrade both FB and DM relatively cheaply. Imo could get £25m individually for Aurier Rose and wanyama and upgrade with £35m buys. So £30m total to upgrade x3 positions.

 

[double0]

I think if we were brave we could upgrade both FB and DM relatively cheaply. Imo could get £25m individually for Aurier Rose and wanyama and upgrade with £35m buys. So £30m total to upgrade x3 positions.

With what players?

 

[Tottenhamboy85]

Diawara is a DM tho and Ndombele is a B2B, so one would replace Vic and the other Dembele. Personally I think its the other way round, Diawara is better defensively and Ndombele better on the ball. Diawara does have very good technique but Ndombele is much better at moving the ball forward on the dribble. Saying all that, Ndombele is much more established in the first team and further along in his development then Diawara. Would be very happy with both but we really need a B2B to replace Dembele IMO and Ndombele would be the ideal signing for us.

Tbh I’d class then both as B2B but I’d use both as the Waynama replacement and would prefer a creative player for a Dembele replacement.

Ndombele is better at breaking out with the ball but Diawara is better in getting in and out tight situations and spreading passes around.

Obviously take both but it looks like Diawara would be easier to get.