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William Saliba signs for Arsenal

Lilbaz

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Apr 1, 2005
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Peuple Vert saying that he choose Arsenal. 5 years contract. 33m euro + 7 in add-on + 20% of future profit. Great bussiness for Levy with Arsenal paying 10m more

Fuck that. Isn't the other french kid meant to be better?
 

wrd

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Aug 22, 2014
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Ahhh...sorry I didn't get the tone. I think it's cause everyone is throwing their toys out of the pram for no big reason.

This is the 2nd comment today about people being upset or throwing their toys yet I've yet to see anybody getting remotely even a little upset, I don't understand why people have to fabricate this idea of people losing their shit when they haven't. A few people are suggesting a bit of disappointment that we lost out on a target to a rival but to suggest people are going beyond that in their reaction is so disingenuous.
 

Legacy

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Mar 29, 2007
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Arsenal have a poor record of developing young players and developing defenders.

Good luck to that young defender when he makes his first mistake and gets the shit ripped out of him by AFTV and then social media.
 

Sandro30

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Jul 7, 2011
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Badiashile is good but he uses his body more to defend which personally I don't like. Saliba is more technical.
 

Ribble

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Apr 13, 2011
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Peuple Vert saying that he choose Arsenal. 5 years contract. 33m euro + 7 in add-on + 20% of future profit. Great bussiness for Levy with Arsenal paying 10m more

With the state of their defence the lad probably fancies himself to force hi way into the first XI, something he'd not be able to do for us yet.
 

Cinemattis

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We did sign Fazio and Chiriches though. Hopefully he is closer to them and not TA JV.

I'm clutching mate, allow me my moment.

The real flaw is that we have never in my lifetime really had that many really top class defenders.

80s:
Richard Gough was probably the only top class CB/CD we had throughout this decade, but stayed only for one season.

Chris Hughton: solid club player, but not reckoned to be top class in the league.
Gary Mabbut: world class club legend, but never a world class player.
Graham Roberts: the penalty in the UEFA final, the missing front teeth, the quote (the one about the crest on the front of the shirt vs the name on the back): but world class defender? Not even close.

90s:
At this time the one whose name should not be mentioned stands out as our best defender since the 60s/early 70s.

Colin Calderwood was a solid but not exactly spectacular defender. Scotish international with 36 caps.

00s:
Ledley King - the one and only. At his best world class with one knee. He would´ve been recognised more widely (outside Spurs and England) as an outstanding international superstar if it hadn´t been for his injury woes.

Michael Dawson: a fan favourite and loyal player with more heart than actual skills.
Jonathan Woodgate: he scored in the League Cup Final, but his best years was spent at Leeds (and squandered at Real Madrid).
Vedran Corluka: not half bad, but played for a weak Spurs side.
Christian Ziege: 72 caps for Germany and 185 games for Bayern says it all, really. But in all honesty he came to us in the twilight years of his career. That he´s remembered fondly by many fans says a lot about our lack of top quality defenders over the years.

10s:
Jan Vertonghen
Toby Alderweireld
Kyle Walker
Danny Rose

Add to those names the undoubtedly talented Davinson Sanchez, the promise of Foyth, the solid professionalism of Ben Davies...
- at what other time over the last 40 years or so have we been so packed with defenders regarded as top players in their postion in the league (and in Europe)?

In the PL-era, before the signing of Super-Jan in 2012, our most used defenders are (not mentioned above) Younes Kaboul, Chris Perry, Mauricio Taricco, Anthony Gardner, Gary Doherty, Lee Youn-Pyo, Benoit Assou-Ekotto, Stephen Carr, Pascal Chimbonda and bloody Alan Hutton.

In short: in the PL-era the gooners have always had more talent and quality than us in defence. Except for the last 5-6 years. Multiple trophies winning teams almost always have several great defenders (Liverpool in the 80s, Fergie´s ManUtd, Chelsea in the 2000s onwards, Real Madrid, Juventus, AC Milan of the 90s, etc.). The only exception to the rule in recent history seems to be Barcelona (but see what happened to them in Europe after Puyol retired).
 
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Living Legend Colm G

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Jan 30, 2011
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The real flaw is that we have never in my lifetime really had that many really top class defenders.

80s:
Richard Gough was probably the only top class CB/CD we had throughout this decade, but stayed only for one season.

Chris Hughton: solid club player, but not reckoned to be top class in the league.
Gary Mabbut: world class club legend, but never a world class player.
Graham Roberts: the penalty in the UEFA final, the missing front teeth, the quote (the one about the crest on the front of the shirt vs the name on the back): but world class defender? Not even close.

90s:
At this time the one whose name should not be mentioned stands out as our best defender since the 60s/early 70s.

Colin Calderwood was a solid but not exactly spectacular defender. Scotish international with 36 caps.

00s:
Ledley King - the one and only. At his best world class with one knee. He would´ve been recognised more widely (outside Spurs and England) as an outstanding international superstar if it hadn´t been for his injury woes.

Michael Dawson: a fan favourite and loyal player with more heart than actual skills.
Jonathan Woodgate: he scored in the League Cup Final, but his best years was spent at Leeds (and squandered at Real Madrid).
Vedran Corluka: not half bad, but played for a weak Spurs side.
Christian Ziege: 72 caps for Germany and 185 games for Bayern says it all, really. But in all honesty he came to us in the twilight years of his career. That he´s remembered fondly by many fans says a lot about our lack of top quality defenders over the years.

10s:
Jan Vertonghen
Toby Alderweireld
Kyle Walker
Danny Rose

Add to those names the undoubtedly talented Davinson Sanchez, the promise of Foyth, the solid professionalism of Ben Davies...
- at what other time over the last 40 years or so have we been so packed with defenders regarded as top players in their postion in the leage (and in Europe)?

In the PL-era, before the signing of Super-jan in 2012, our most used defenders are (not mentioned above) Younes Kaboul, Chris Perry, Mauricio Taricco, Anthony Gardner, Gary Doherty, Lee Youn-Pyo, Benoit Assou-Ekotto, Stephen Carr, Pascal Chimbonda and bloody Alan Hutton.

In short: in the PL-era the gooners have always had more talent and quality than us in defence. Except for the last 5-6 years. Multiple trophies winning teams almost always have several great defenders (Liverpool in the 80s, Fergie´s ManUtd, Chelsea in the 2000s onwards, Real Madrid, Juventus, AC Milan of the 90s, etc.). The only exception to the rule in recent history seems to be Barcelona (but see what happened to them in Europe after Puyol retired).

You missed out Jason Cundy :sneaky:
 

DaniLeves

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Aug 19, 2017
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Sorry if posted before but I just realized that if he does go to scum, they’ll have paid 30+7m out of a ‘warchest’ of 40 for a player to be loaned back ??
 
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