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Sophos151

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They've spent a shed load more than we have when you take transfers and salaries into account and they've just splurged a huge lump on Aubameyang ans Lacazette and given Ozil the Crown Jewels to stay there.

All three of those deals have come since they won the FA Cup three times in four years. Before then, they really didn't spend huge amounts more than us.
 

Japhet

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All three of those deals have come since they won the FA Cup three times in four years. Before then, they really didn't spend huge amounts more than us.

They always had players who had won stuff in previous seasons who carried that mentality forward. In many respects, those triumphs were a legacy from the days of their 'invincibles' whose legacy was to give younger players the experience of getting over the line in all sorts of competitions. Standing on the shoulders of giants, so to speak. The FA Cups weren't enough for their supporters though, but I bet they'd have settled for any old bit of silverware this season. It will be a long, hard climb for them to get back from where they are now.
 

Shadydan

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All three of those deals have come since they won the FA Cup three times in four years. Before then, they really didn't spend huge amounts more than us.

It's not just about spending...

They were able to attract players like Cech, Ozil and Sanchez with huge wages that we could only dream of paying.
 

Lighty64

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All three of those deals have come since they won the FA Cup three times in four years. Before then, they really didn't spend huge amounts more than us.

their wage bill has been x2 ours for a very long time, and Sanchez and Ozil didn't come cheap. out of those 3 semi's they only had 1 difficult draw, and thanks to a linemans wrong call beat Man City.
 

Dundalk_Spur

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Jul 17, 2008
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Just when you think the level of bullshit has hit its zenith.

Cascarino on Irish radio saying the team has been together too long with no success and players should be moved on, new manager etc. Not talking about Vorm, Dembele, Rose etc but Dele, Eriksen and Kane.

I hear Kermit wants him in the new movie.
 

luptic

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Jul 21, 2008
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The football daily podcast had a very good discussion on our match against United. Very heated indeed.
 

TheChosenOne

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Dec 13, 2005
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Just when you think the level of bullshit has hit its zenith.

Cascarino on Irish radio saying the team has been together too long with no success and players should be moved on, new manager etc. Not talking about Vorm, Dembele, Rose etc but Dele, Eriksen and Kane.

I hear Kermit wants him in the new movie.


I just dropped off the daughter on to her babysitting job, flipped the radio on - rte2fm - Lo and behold its Eamon Dunphy, saying straight off Spurs lost to United just like last year year against Chelsea, they aren't good enough and they don't pay their players enough.

Radio went straight off again.
 

slartibartfast

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Oct 21, 2012
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Just when you think the level of bullshit has hit its zenith.

Cascarino on Irish radio saying the team has been together too long with no success and players should be moved on, new manager etc. Not talking about Vorm, Dembele, Rose etc but Dele, Eriksen and Kane.

I hear Kermit wants him in the new movie.
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slartibartfast

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Oct 21, 2012
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I just dropped off the daughter on to her babysitting job, flipped the radio on - rte2fm - Lo and behold its Eamon Dunphy, saying straight off Spurs lost to United just like last year year against Chelsea, they aren't good enough and they don't pay their players enough.

Radio went straight off again.
Not had TS on at all today.
I will try and avoid it, MOTD, SKY Sports and any other form of bullshit from now until next season starts. Its gonna be unbearable so I'll just ignore it all.
On a side note, I was listening to 5 live on way home. Nothing about us or that would have gone off as well but...
Everton are playing tonight. TONIGHT.
Liverpool are playing TOMORROW.
Does anyone at 5 live really think Everton fans tuning in really want to hear a load of crap about Liverpool when its them that are playing tonight!
You'll be spewing crap about Liverpool all fkin day tomorrow so wtf???
This has happened to us before Ive noticed. We've a big game on Sunday for example but they waffle on about Saturdays matches and then Monday they waffle about the Monday game coming up.



Yes I've still got ass ache so Im gonna moan about every fkin thing :mad:
 

TheChosenOne

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Dec 13, 2005
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Not had TS on at all today.
I will try and avoid it, MOTD, SKY Sports and any other form of bullshit from now until next season starts. Its gonna be unbearable so I'll just ignore it all.
On a side note, I was listening to 5 live on way home. Nothing about us or that would have gone off as well but...
Everton are playing tonight. TONIGHT.
Liverpool are playing TOMORROW.
Does anyone at 5 live really think Everton fans tuning in really want to hear a load of crap about Liverpool when its them that are playing tonight!
You'll be spewing crap about Liverpool all fkin day tomorrow so wtf???
This has happened to us before Ive noticed. We've a big game on Sunday for example but they waffle on about Saturdays matches and then Monday they waffle about the Monday game coming up.



Yes I've still got ass ache so Im gonna moan about every fkin thing :mad:

I've had the 'ump all day anyway with what's gone on with HK getting slated and ridiculed by the governing body of football - the bleeding FA - despite their poxy apology.

Tonight's radio shit cold cocked me - I literally turned in the radio for some music but forgot that after 7 it's a sports show - the voice just came straight out with that shite.
 

thebenjamin

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Jul 1, 2008
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There's some great logic going on here.

Spurs players are legends and they should be replaced by 'winners'
Spurs need to pay their players more

:wtf:
 

Lou3000

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we are going to take a lot of shit over the next few days. Its made me angry in the past because its been a whole bunch of knee jerk cliched bullshit.

It would anger me even more now because a lot of what is going to be said will have a large element of truth to it and the truth hurts.....we did not bottle it against Chelsea last year, or Leicester (utter BS!) but we did yesterday.

staying away from newspapers and my usual sports podcasts for at least a week. Don't want to hear any of it.

Why did we bottle it? United are better than we all seem to give them credit for. They've been in good form and just beat a City team that dominated us by a combined 7-2 this season. They've still got the most expensive squad in the league and a manager who was an assistant manager at Porto when Poch was still playing for Newell's Old Boys in Argentina.

For some reason we have decided that United were going to let us have it because we were hungrier for a trophy. Instead they put in a very professional showing and scored two very scrappy goals.
 

onthetwo

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is it just me or shouldn't Liverpool/Klopp be ahead of us in the medias list of 'about time they won something' list that they are given?
Could someone please out that to Jamie Redknapp next time hes on?
 

Archibald&Crooks

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is it just me or shouldn't Liverpool/Klopp be ahead of us in the medias list of 'about time they won something' list that they are given?
Could someone please out that to Jamie Redknapp next time hes on?
TBF they are ahead of us in the 'can they keep" stakes, I've seen several mentions of "Can Liverpool keep Salah" :D
 

lukespurs7

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Feb 21, 2006
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we are going to take a lot of shit over the next few days. Its made me angry in the past because its been a whole bunch of knee jerk cliched bullshit.

It would anger me even more now because a lot of what is going to be said will have a large element of truth to it and the truth hurts.....we did not bottle it against Chelsea last year, or Leicester (utter BS!) but we did yesterday.

staying away from newspapers and my usual sports podcasts for at least a week. Don't want to hear any of it.
Spot on
 

lukespurs7

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Feb 21, 2006
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is it just me or shouldn't Liverpool/Klopp be ahead of us in the medias list of 'about time they won something' list that they are given?
Could someone please out that to Jamie Redknapp next time hes on?
They’ve won things recently, CL only 10 yrs ago, treble in the early 2000’s, We’ve won nothing of note for 30 years.
 

worcestersauce

"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
Jan 23, 2006
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43853515

'Tottenham will be accused of choking until they prove otherwise'

By Phil McNulty
Chief football writer

To lose one FA Cup semi-final can be unfortunate - to lose eight in succession shows a pattern is emerging.

And as far as Tottenham Hotspur are concerned, the pattern is not a pretty one after the latest bout of last-four pain in Saturday's 2-1 loss to Manchester United at Wembley.

Spurs have spent this season raising hopes that the suffering may be about to end and did so in a blistering opening here that brought the deserved reward of Dele Alli's 11th-minute goal.

In the final reckoning, however, it was a familiar story and yet another campaign will end for Spurs and manager Mauricio Pochettino - in his fourth full season - without the tangible reward of a trophy.

So where does this latest setback leave Spurs and their Argentine manager?

Are Tottenham serial chokers?

This is the question that goes to the heart of Tottenham's current position - and one that offers powerful arguments for and against.

As the seats around Wembley emptied and the Spurs fans who stayed and those who left accepted what is becoming increasingly familiar and inevitable, the list of failures was once again receiving a forensic examination.

From Arsenal at Wembley in 1993 through to this loss at the same rebuilt arena 25 years later, the FA Cup semi-final has brought nothing but the same bitter taste of defeat for Spurs.
It is the longest losing streak at this stage in the competition's history, a record they would be happy to break in half.

Different managers. Different teams. The same outcome every time and the same questions about when this spell without a trophy, stretching back to the League Cup win over Chelsea in 2008, will ever end.

Spurs' last eight FA Cup semi-finals
21 April 2018 - L 1-2 v Man Utd
22 April 2017- L 2-4 v Chelsea
15 April 2012 - L 1-5 v Chelsea
11 April 2010 - L 0-2 v Portsmouth (AET)
8 April 2001 - L 1-2 v Arsenal
11 April 1999 - L 0-2 v Newcastle (AET)
9 April 1995 - L 1-4 v Everton
4 April 1993 - L 0-1 v Arsenal

Spurs arrived at Wembley boasting the same impressive form and pedigree - plus most of the players - as they did before last season's FA Cup semi-final against Chelsea.

And yet once again they found themselves outmanoeuvred and outlasted by opponents who just seemed that bit more battle-hardened, who looked to have been around the block a few more times.

It was almost as if the years of loss were like ghosts revisiting the minds of Spurs players and fans once Alexis Sanchez rose to equalise against the run of play after 24 minutes.

Spurs were never quite the same again and there was an air of desperation about most of what they did trying to claw their way back into the game after Ander Herrera put United in front just after the hour.

The problem is Spurs do keep doing this and for all the obvious progression under Pochettino, the doubts laid against them will not go away until they change.

"We let ourselves down," Alli said. "It's very disappointing. We have to try and pick ourselves up and finish the season strongly. You can't go 1-0 up then 2-1 down against
a team like Manchester United. We can't put ourselves in that situation.

"Everyone talks. We want to win trophies. We have the staff that wants to win. We can't keep doing this. We can't throw it away, We have got to improve."

A problem beyond the FA Cup

The body of evidence also includes recent title challenges in pursuit of Leicester City and Chelsea that came up short and the three-minute switch off that cost them two goals and a position of control in the Champions League last-16 tie against Juventus at Wembley.
Spurs may rail against the charge that they choke when it matters - that they falter when the finishing line comes into sight - but they are prey for those accusations until they prove otherwise.

And yet, this is a Spurs side that is clearly progressing under Pochettino, a team capable of competing with the best the Premier League has to offer.

Manchester United and Liverpool have been well beaten in the Premier League at Wembley, while Chelsea were overpowered at Stamford Bridge recently. Title-winners Manchester City could not be overcome but Spurs are hardly alone there.

Where does this leave Pochettino?

Pochettino has just completed his fourth season at Spurs without a trophy - even his heavily-derided and soon to be departed north London counterpart Arsene Wenger claimed two FA Cups in that time.

It is the sort of fallow period that might have had some Spurs managers glancing nervously over their shoulders in the direction of demanding chairman Daniel Levy.

And yet, despite the Argentine's continued search for silverware, there is no question whatsoever about his future - nor should there be.

The clear moves in the right direction under the 46-year-old means he is the man charged with taking Spurs to their new stadium and finally ending that barren spell.

Pochettino's Premier League record is one of consistent improvement from fifth to third and then runners-up last season. Spurs are currently on course to qualify for the Champions League again as they stand in fourth place, five points ahead of Chelsea.

Spurs fans and players idolise the man who has brought the intense, entertaining attacking style of football that he insists upon, first to White Hart Lane and then this season at Wembley.

Pochettino, for good measure, is also one of the game's most coveted coaches. Spurs and Levy know they are on to a good thing.

If - in a hypothetical situation - Pochettino came on the market, he would be a candidate for every major post in Europe should they become available. Chelsea, Paris St-Germain and Real Madrid would all have him on any list of candidates.

What he must do now is burnish his outstanding reputation with a trophy - and Spurs will do everything to ensure he does that with them.

Spurs and Mauricio Pochettino are not far away from ending the drought - but the final stretch of the journey to success is proving the toughest and most painful to navigate.
What an absolute load of bollocks, we went over a hundred years without losing a semi final and nobody said anything about it and arsenal still hold the record for losing most semi finals don't they?
Honestly it really is sloppy easy writing with no insightful consideration whatsoever, drawing attention to where we have "come up short" in the prem over the last two years completely ignores the fact that not one single pundit, expert or football know it all predicted us to finish in the top four let alone win the thing in either season and as I recall there were many who didn't think we'd make Europe at all in the year we came runners up to Leicester.
It's hindsight pretence, he is judging us on where we have got to and not where we were during those seasons.
Later on he goes on to offer some positive words but he is still pedalling the same message, we have failed over the last three years and Poch is on his way out if we don't win a trophy now.
 
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