What our opponents' fans are saying about us 18/19

[KILLA_SIN]

That was the positive about VAR last night, we spoke about facts rather than going out to a dodgy offside decision which we’ve had so many times over the years!

VAR was spot on last night. Definitely will make the game even for smaller clubs in the future with big sides not getting the benefit of the doubt with marginal calls in games. I'm sure at some point we will be on the wrong end of it but that is the game.

 

[buttons]

More....

No one flagged.no one appealed. Ref gave goal.and a mysterious call to his earpiece .
Game over.


Honestly, sour grapes. The linesmen aren’t supposed to flag for marginal decisions. The linesmen might have actually flagged without VAR in place anyway.

But no, it’s a UEFA conspiracy.

I actually hate this about VAR. the fact that the decisions are so marginal, like the penalty in the first leg. Nobody appeals, the ref gives nothing but some donut with 65 tv screens has spotted something so pulls it back.

I love that it worked for us last night but the game is dead if that’s the future.

To clarify, I don’t mean the game is dead because of the drama it creates, just because the decisions are so marginal, I think the onus should still be on the ref to ask for help.

 

[buttons]

Just had a quick glance on blue moon

Got to say, fair play to them. By and large, class responses

I think there are a lot of similarities between us and the core city fans, and I reckon they would acknowledge the same. Both had to live with successful neighbours down the years and now enjoying our relative success, always with a nod to the past horrors!

 

[tommyt]

I actually hate this about VAR. the fact that the decisions are so marginal, like the penalty in the first leg. Nobody appeals, the ref gives nothing but some donut with 65 tv screens has spotted something so pulls it back.

I love that it worked for us last night but the game is dead if that’s the future.

To be fair, the VAR decisions/ evaluations / reviews only occurred after the goals last night. Its not like every decision is going to be reviewed - throw ins, fouls and offsides.

 

[buttons]

To be fair, the VAR decisions/ evaluations / reviews only occurred after the goals last night. Its not like every decision is going to be reviewed - throw ins, fouls and offsides.

No, but I do think the onus should be on the ref to ask for help.

 

[Dharmabum]

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47970603


Tottenham knock Man City out of Champions League: How the world reacted




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Tottenham reached the semi-finals of the Champions League for the first time
It was a game that united football lovers across the world in shock, excitement, nerves, joy and admiration.
The second leg of Tottenham's away-goals victory over Manchester City in the quarter-finals of the Champions League was a showcase for why football is called 'the beautiful game'.
It started with four goals in the first 11 minutes. Then another came to make it five in 21 minutes.
A pulsating hour of football followed with two more goals (one of which was awarded after a lengthy VAR review), before one of the most dramatic finishes to a game we've ever seen.
Needing a goal to keep their hopes of the quadruple alive, Raheem Sterling netted for City in the 93rd minute causing pandemonium in the stands but the goal was then ruled out for offside by VAR.
Just incredible.

• Report: Spurs stun Man City in modern classic
• 'Spurs silence doubters on momentous night' - McNulty analysis
• Spurs players are heroes - Pochettino

'Thoughts are with those that don't like football'
Spurs manager Mauricio Pochettino said the drama was "why we love football" with Match of the Day presenter Gary Lineker describing it as "one of the greatest, most enthralling, dramatic and emotional games of football I've ever been at".

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Lineker, like many of us, said he had sympathy for those who don't like football and weren't able to enjoy the pulsating 90 minutes.


Even the Christian deity thought the game justified his creations. Well, almost...

'Football sometimes is a joke'
We got just a little excited when it looked like Sterling had snatched the most remarkable of late winners.

And there was more to come when the goal was ruled out.




A tweet from Barcelona defender Gerard Pique just summed up what we were all feeling at that point.

• Guardiola laments 'cruel' Spurs defeat
• Football Daily: A Modern classic - 'This game had absolutely everything'

'Thumbs up to VAR'
Unsurprisingly Tottenham's players were delighted with the result and the VAR decision to rule out Sterling's winner.

Striker Harry Kane was on his feet celebrating in his living room despite that ankle injury which ruled him out of the game.

And centre-back Toby Alderweireld is already thinking about the semi-final with the Belgian and team-mates Eriksen, Jan Vertonghen and Davinson Sanchez set to return "home" to play former club Ajax.

Even Newell's Old Boys, the club where Tottenham boss Pochettino began his career, got involved. Just look how young Poch looks...

'NEVER, EVER seen anything like that' - your reaction
And it wouldn't be fair to end without some of your comments sent to #bbcfootball.
Ellis Nordhoff: Never ever seen a game like that in my life. Had everything, and the dramatic twist of emotions at the end. Unreal match.
Tom McQuillin: I'm a wreck. I can't walk I'm such a bundle of nerves. Best game I've ever seen. COME ON TOTTENHAM!
Rachel T: I have been supporting Spurs for almost 40 years and I have NEVER, EVER seen anything like that. Pochettino, he's magic you know and so are the rest of them!
Rob: Please spare a thought for those of us who do love football and can't watch an apparent thriller as well.
Spare a thought for Ritchie who sent this before the game...
Ritchie: Out for dinner with the missus for our anniversary. Selfishly hoping for a dire game (sorry!) but suspect it will be a thriller. 3-1 City with Spurs missing a late pen. PS. Love you Claire!

 

[tommyt]

No, but I do think the onus should be on the ref to ask for help.

I agree and disagree. The ref can't always be in a position to see everything.

Although it will slow the game down, I think it'll also remove some of the bias towards the so called big clubs.

Time will tell.

 

[monkeynick]

Cundy did score a 50 yarder off his shin against Ipswich while I was at the Reading festival. They showed the goal at the festival and some guy next to me shouted ‘I’m here for Nirvana not Jason fucking Cundy’

Amen mother fucker.

The wrong man blew his own brains out

 

[Oscar22]

The ref was really clear on the VAR decisions last night as well. If you look at the replay of him analysing the Llorente goal on the screen, he actually made a little motion with his hands having seen it as if to say “why am I even looking at this?!” As in it was clearly a goal. That was how I took it anyway. I got the impression that he was more than happy with it pretty quick.

 

[buttons]

I agree and disagree. The ref can't always be in a position to see everything.

Although it will slow the game down, I think it'll also remove some of the bias towards the so called big clubs.

Time will tell.

Yeah see what you’re saying.

I just think it’s odd when no player appeals, the ref gives nothing but it is still reviewed. Hence thinking the onus should be on the ref, and/or the players through an appeals type system.

 

[spids]

VAR, and the way it is used is improving rapidly. The best thing about it is players no longer try to cheat the ref. If you watched a CL or World Cup game from pre-VAR you’d see players diving and basically making refereeing impossible. Now refs jobs are much easier. Once the last few things get ironed out (like handball) it will be great for the sport.

 

[talkshowhost86]

City fans can't complain about that VAR call last night considering it was exactly the same situation that gained them a penalty in the first leg.

I still think it needs to be made more clear to fans and everyone involved who is making the decision to call stuff back, but across the two legs it was at least used in a consistent manner so I don't think either team can claim to have been favoured or hard done by.

 

[dontcallme]

City fans can't complain about that VAR call last night considering it was exactly the same situation that gained them a penalty in the first leg.

I still think it needs to be made more clear to fans and everyone involved who is making the decision to call stuff back, but across the two legs it was at least used in a consistent manner so I don't think either team can claim to have been favoured or hard done by.

I have read posts over the last season in this forum and apparently there is a bias against Spurs.

Despite everything that goes against this I am going to stick to this belief. They disallowed City’s goal last night assuming City would get another anyway and make it look kosher. Their plan backfired.

 

[stevenurse]

Any city fan complaining has got an extremely short memory. They've had some unbelievable luck recently from bad decisions. Sterling penalty when he kicked the floor, 2 decisions against Swansea where VAR was used (bizarrely), jesus was offside for his goal on Sunday, the Rose handball was ridiculous and even Aguero scored with him full arm against arsenal not long ago.

Having the ball brush Llorente on the way to going in off his hip is nothing compared to that, but they didn't seem to mind that time...

 

[Trix]

Var is only there to change a decision if there is a clear and obvious error. There was nothing clear and obvious about the alleged handball, while there clearly was regarding the offside.

 

[jurgen]

The wrong man blew his own brains out

Isn't Cundy 'blowing his brains out' an oxymoron (with the emphasis on moron)?

 

[Hakkz]

The people over at Redcafe were almost happier than us yesterday.

 

[danielneeds]

More....

No one flagged.no one appealed. Ref gave goal.and a mysterious call to his earpiece .
Game over.


Honestly, sour grapes. The linesmen aren’t supposed to flag for marginal decisions. The linesmen might have actually flagged without VAR in place anyway.

But no, it’s a UEFA conspiracy.

Welcome to the internet in bloody 2019. People with nothing to moan about concocting and spreading conspiracies when someone they don’t like happens.

 

[spids]

When there is a potential handball review with VAR, they look for the answers to these questions:

1. Did the ball hit the players arm / hand?
2. If yes, was it deliberate, OR was the players arm / hand in an unnatural position that made their body area larger?

Now, whilst 2. is still subjective (see the penalty awarded against Rose in the first leg), last nights was clear...

Llorente did not deliberately handle the ball, and his body was not in an unnatural position where his arm made his body area larger. The ball brushed his arm and then hit his hip which created the force to direct the ball into the goal. As such it was the correct decision, as backed up by every single referee commenting in the media today.

The offside goal was simply offside. Fact.

 

[Tresh]

An Arsenal fan in the office accepts the first VAR decision. However, he has told me that, since it was only a "technical" offside, the second VAR decision was wrong. Speechless...