What our opponents' fans are saying about us 18/19

[double0]

I work just outside of Leicester, so most guys here are season ticket holders. On the whole, they reckon they'll get something from the game.
They have been particularly amused this week because the majority of them here think Maddison is a show pony who slows down their attacks, so they're hoping we buy him!

I'd take Jack Grealish any day over Maddison.

 

[Legacy]

I wouldn't take what's expressed during the cauldron of a football game as a particularly reliable barometer of how a group of people feels about another group of people, would you?

Plus which, like the internet forum subset, those who attend matches also do not represent the entirety of a club's fanbase.

So an internet forum isn't an accurate representation of a club's fans. Nor is a stadium full of supporters. But a handful of your mates are a better metric.

 

[rez9000]

So an internet forum isn't an accurate representation of a club's fans. Nor is a stadium full of supporters. But a handful of your mates are a better metric.

That's not what I said. Apologies if the proper meaning hasn't been expressed. Allow me to try and do so:

I said that a fanbase will consist of different sets of fans and that a single view doesn't exist. If you read my post, you'll notice that I prefaced things with the statement 'It may not be statistically significant', qualifying the 'metric' (which isn't actually a metric anyway, seeing as we're discussing something which isn't really quantifiable, i.e. hatred).

Furthermore, (and perhaps you missed it while formulating your response) I didn't offer up my anecdote as a sign that I don't believe that Leicester fans don't hate us - only that there are some who do and some who don't. Is it your contention that they do all hate us?

Edit: And in answer to your question: no, an internet forum is not an accurate representation of a club's fans - again something I demonstrated with the SC reference. And no, a stadium full of fans is also not an accurate representation of a club's fans either.

Again, I'll demonstrate by using Spurs as an example:

WHL could hold 36,284 at full capacity. 10% is given to away fans. Therefore the maximum number of Spurs fans that could fit into White Hart Lane would be 36,284 - 3,628 = 32, 656.

Now, is it your other contention that every single fan in that stadium is the same every week and that every single one of them hates the opposing team with equal fervour? Is it also your contention that those 32,656 fans represent the entirety of Spurs fanbase?

A few numbers to back that up. I'm currently at around 32,000 on the season ticket waiting list. So there are at least a comparable number of people who don't have a season ticket who won't attend matches every fortnight.

Plus there are 150 Spurs supporters clubs around the world. Let's say they each have 100 members on average. That's another 15,000 fans who may not go to a single game in a season.

And one final little stat for you. In 2013, Charlie Wijeratna, a former executive director at Spurs stated that the club has 179,000,000 supporters around the world. If even 0.1% of those are active supporters, that equates to 179,000 supporters.

So again no, a stadium full of supporters does not represent the entirety of a club's fanbase.

 

[bomberH]

From the BBC website on Poch saying he’s unhappy that Leicester is on Sunday instead of Saturday before a CL match:

136. Posted bydogknowsbest
on26 minutes ago
Poor old Podgy. To think that spuds would definately win the champions league if it wasnt for pesky domestic fixtures getting in the way.
Hang on, bottleham dont win trophies, trophies are for lucky teams not world beaters like his chickens are. Were podgy and Wacky klopp separated at birth by any chance??

I assume he’s a gooner. I assume he’s 12. I assume he’s a ****. Who actually types stuff like this? Podgy, bottleham, definately...

 

[rez9000]

From the BBC website on Poch saying he’s unhappy that Leicester is on Sunday instead of Saturday before a CL match:

136. Posted bydogknowsbest
on26 minutes ago
Poor old Podgy. To think that spuds would definately win the champions league if it wasnt for pesky domestic fixtures getting in the way.
Hang on, bottleham dont win trophies, trophies are for lucky teams not world beaters like his chickens are. Were podgy and Wacky klopp separated at birth by any chance??

I assume he’s a gooner. I assume he’s 12. I assume he’s a ****. Who actually types stuff like this? Podgy, bottleham, definately...

He's restricted by the BBC's no swear policy, poor chick!

 

[Paolo10]

I'd take Jack Grealish any day over Maddison.

Aside from being a decent footballer, Maddison is rumoured to be an absolute wanker.

 

[rez9000]

Aside from being a decent footballer, Maddison is rumoured to be an absolute wanker.

You know what? I always stop myself whenever I think it, but when I look at Maddison I do get the feeling that he's a bit of a tool. I know one shouldn't judge someone without having met them, but I just can't help feeling it when I look at him. I feel that about Vardy as well for some reason...

 

[Paolo10]

Lots of stories around Coventry and Norwich of him embarrassing himself out and about. Do you know who I am? My shoes cost more than x etc.

Tbf there's probably a good few of our lads that aren't the nicest with people. Dele let himself down with that hotel behaviour last year.

 

[tommo84]

You know what? I always stop myself whenever I think it, but when I look at Maddison I do get the feeling that he's a bit of a tool. I know one shouldn't judge someone without having met them, but I just can't help feeling it when I look at him. I feel that about Vardy as well for some reason...

He tweeted lots of anti-Spurs and anti-Bale stuff when he was a teenager, and had a rep among other Championship clubs as being a massive prick before he left Norwich.

Pretty sure he would fail the dressing room’s current ‘no dickheads’ policy as described by Eric Dier some time ago.

 

[rez9000]

He tweeted lots of anti-Spurs and anti-Bale stuff when he was a teenager, and had a rep among other Championship clubs as being a massive prick before he left Norwich.

Pretty sure he would fail the dressing room’s current ‘no dickheads’ policy as described by Eric Dier some time ago.

Ugh. Sounds like a nasty piece of work.

 

[dagraham]

Lots of stories around Coventry and Norwich of him embarrassing himself out and about. Do you know who I am? My shoes cost more than x etc.

Tbf there's probably a good few of our lads that aren't the nicest with people. Dele let himself down with that hotel behaviour last year.

Think we sometimes forget how young these footballers are who become multi millionaires almost overnight, with agents and numerous hangers on bigging their egos up.

Not saying it’s an excuse for regularly behaving like a ****, but some leeway has to be given.

 

[rez9000]

Think we sometimes forget how young these footballers are who become multi millionaires almost overnight, with agents and numerous hangers on bugging their egos up.

Not saying it’s an excuse for regularly behaving like a ****, but some leeway has to be given.

True. 'Success' that young can knock a person's perspective out of whack... Look at Justin Bieber.

 

[Paolo10]

Think we sometimes forget how young these footballers are who become multi millionaires almost overnight, with agents and numerous hangers on bugging their egos up.

Not saying it’s an excuse for regularly behaving like a ****, but some leeway has to be given.

Can't imagine Harry ever behaving like that tbh.

 

[gilzeantheking]

He tweeted lots of anti-Spurs and anti-Bale stuff when he was a teenager, and had a rep among other Championship clubs as being a massive prick before he left Norwich.

Pretty sure he would fail the dressing room’s current ‘no dickheads’ policy as described by Eric Dier some time ago.

Which is probably why we didn't entertain him. Poch's philosophy doesn't seem to be entirely about playing football.

 

[rez9000]

Can't imagine Harry ever behaving like that tbh.

Also true, but then Harry is something special!

 

[Paolo10]

I don't think any amount of money or being young and rich can excuse the fundamental principle of humanity to treat other people as you'd like to be treated tbh.

 

[dk-yid]

Well, that's precisely the point - it's the forum, which isn't the whole fanbase. It may not be statistically significant, but I have a connection with Leicester and have a number of friends there who are all diehard Leicester fans. Not one of them has a bad thing to say about Spurs - they quite like us in fact and a couple are very complimentary about the way we've built ourselves up. They've bantered with me over their League win, but that banter was personal - it was because they were having fun with me as a person, not me as a Spurs fan. So, right there is an example of Leicester fans who are far from hostile, far from toxic. Funnily, of the five or six of them, only one posts on a football forum.

This demonstrates how there are many different subsets of fans. And to be fair, the vast majority won't post on internet forums. Again, look at SC:

It could be argued that SC is the most popular Spurs forum. It has 26,000 members. That won't represent more than the tiniest of fractions of the entire Spurs fan base. Hypothetically, if SC members were all to speak with one voice, would that represent what the entire Spurs fanbase thinks? Of course not. So why should any other club's forum be different?

This is why I don't have an issue with Liverpool fans. I've seen RAWK and I've met Liverpool fans in the flesh. And in the flesh they are very different to what you see on their forums. Likewise, with FoxesTalk. I've seen some of their posts, but I have real flesh-and-blood friends who are Leciester fans and the difference is chalk and cheese when it comes to Spurs.

"What our opponents' fans are saying about us" is nothing but a snapshot into what one section of fans thinks of us. An interesting one, to be sure, but not one that should be treated with any great significance or taken too seriously. It certainly shouldn't be used to cast an entire competing fanbase in the same light if for no other reason but that we'd only have other Spurs fans as friends.

You may see things that are toxic, you may see things that are even hateful. but it's not what every competing fan is saying about us.

I wholeheartedly agree.


Except the bit about Liverpool supporters. They are all deluded ****s

 

[rez9000]

I don't think any amount of money or being young and rich can excuse the fundamental principle of humanity to treat other people as you'd like to be treated tbh.

Absolutely. It's a sad indictment of our time that so many either don't know that or don't ever learn it.

 

[Paolo10]

Absolutely. It's a sad indictment of our time that so many either don't know that or don't ever learn it.

It's pretty sad now, everything is photos of stuff and selfies. Self absorbed, materialistic, zombie society.

Anyway...

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

From the BBC website on Poch saying he’s unhappy that Leicester is on Sunday instead of Saturday before a CL match:

136. Posted bydogknowsbest
on26 minutes ago
Poor old Podgy. To think that spuds would definately win the champions league if it wasnt for pesky domestic fixtures getting in the way.
Hang on, bottleham dont win trophies, trophies are for lucky teams not world beaters like his chickens are. Were podgy and Wacky klopp separated at birth by any chance??

I assume he’s a gooner. I assume he’s 12. I assume he’s a ****. Who actually types stuff like this? Podgy, bottleham, definately...

Primary school children should never be allowed to post things online