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doctor stefan Freud

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Sep 2, 2013
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As we don't have a thread for what we say about ourselves I thought I'd pop it in here for fun. Below are some posts after the team was announced. I've not outed anyone, it's just a bit of fun. A lot of the bed wetters I have on ignore so I'm sure I've missed a lot of material. Hell, I've said a lot of crap on here and wanted De Boer instead of Poch (I still cringe about posting this) :)

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I think it'll be a draw, although we should be looking to rip their defence to shreds.

A victory against these is due. We need to be right on top defensively. We then need to take any chances we get. The key will be how long we can keep Liverpool out for and if we get on top first.

We need to be bang at it today and take our chances, their defence will always give up a chance or two and we need to be brave in possession but also be prepared to play it long if they swarm over us at the back...we've given up goals before trying to play our way out against these.

Team Announced

God help us

Don’t get that line up at all?? Where’s dier?

Wtf? Two left backs on the bench and two right backs starting...

Trippier LWB...*sigh*

Bizzare lineup

Salah is gonna have a field day.

Will be happy with a point after seeing the line-up. Must be major concerns over Rose and Davies. Don't know about Dele and Winks marshaling Coutinho's runs from midfield either.

could this be a tactical masterclass by poch or did the news about dier create some bad vibes?

Hopefully we are saying that he's a genius 10 minutes after this match too... (y)(y)(y)(y)

Looks like it's set up for the counter attack to me... It's the paciest side we can put out. (y)

Calm your tits - (well said Riggi)

Baffling starting line-up but I hope we beat the Dippers nonetheless. Klopp might be wondering how to play against this line-up.

The more I look at that team for this game, the more bonkers it looks. lol This is not the game to be experimenting in. Anyway, hope he's up for making early changes if it goes tits up. COYS!

Puzzled by the selection but proofs in the pudding and Poch can always change it around if it's not working...

Well he was true to his word, he did say that he was gonna pick a wtf team

I wish Poch would learn his lesson about a right back playing left back. We have 2 on the bench and Vertongen for christ sake, it's asking for trouble. :facepalm:

Aurier at lb to counter salah pace. Hopefully we play on counter but looks as though poch is going gung ho (y)

That midfield is so going to get overrun :whistle:

We don't know what's happening but would be truly disastrous man management from Poch if so.

Honestly think they are going to rip us apart with that lineup, expected us to play more defensive but that doesn't seem the case.

Poch realised when you have Toby Sanchez vertonghen you don’t need a DM lol

We'll win. Fuck em.

Aurier on Salah's side I assume. Tactically I guess that's decent idea. No Sissoko or Dier in midfield seems a tad optimistic though. That said, if we work hard as a team we've got some serious attacking talent in that side.

Worried about how wrong this could go-really baffling-will be in awe if it comes off and would take a draw now

I hope picking a wierd team v Real Madrid and getting a result hasn't gone to Poch's head.

Bound to be Aurier on Salah. Reduce their pacey option, who creates the space for their other attackers, and you go a long way to nullifying their threat. (Mr Pink gets it)

Looking at that line up and our recent form against Liverpool I'll be happy with a Desmond today, that's what I am predicting

Time to put in a proper performance at Wembley, it's long over due. Hoping we play with urgency and tempo.

Pleased to see Son playing, no doubt Poch sees the high press Liverpool play as an opportunity to use pace behind their high defence., (y)

We have a shit record against pool, we aren't great at Wembley and that lineup looks like we are asking for trouble. Which probably means we will win 5-0 and this will be a masterstroke.

...so the answer to Dier getting turned over last year is...no midfield?

Bizarre line up on the face of it, hopefully it's just crazy enough to work

Can see us getting overran in midfield today.Surely sissoko has to start if dier is ill? A midfield of winks eriksen and alli is not strong enough or solid enough defensively

Looking at their team they are nothing to be scared of. The front three are good but that midfield that must be one of the worst Liverpool midfield three ever. Can, Henderson and Milner? We should murder them. (This got 1 optimistic rating instead of the 100 winners it should've got) (y)

Crazy team - this could go very well or very badly.

Reckon it's same formation as Madrid. Dele instead of sissoko. Son for llorente. Aurier lwb

Why Trippier and not KWP at LWB?!

I can’t decide how this is going to go. On the one hand Liverpool won’t sit back so we don’t have to break them down. On the other hand. We have Trippier at left back.

That's another cooky looking line up. Wonder if he's deliberately playing a RB at LB to counter the fact that Salah plays WR forward and cuts inside onto his left ? Time will tell, like Tuesday, could be brave genius could be fucking nuts, either way we are going to have to be right at it.

Salah is going to goose Trippier every time he runs past him. Could be painful. :LOL:

Not looking forward to this, looks like we're going to attack them and play an open game which is 100% the wrong way to play against this Liverpool side. Hope I'm completely wrong.

Winks and Erickson not exactly powerhouse midfield. And with no Dier behind them quite worrying. I said this in my last post that we do not have strength in depth and we seem to keep loosing players to injury and can’t get a solid team momentum going. But loosing Dier, Davis, Rose, Wanyama and Dembele all from the starting 11 is not good not good at all. Would take a draw right now especially at Wembley.

2-0

I am never going to doubt Poch's tactics again. Also, that draw against Madrid has seriously given us some belief hasn't it? We don't even look uncomfortable right now, we are all over them.

We can knock balls over the top of them all day...they cannot handle it.

If only we had bought a pacey player in the summer

FORTRESS WEMBLEY
I am guilty of one of the fuckeries- what's my royalties looking like?
 

StartingPrice

Chief Sardonicus Hyperlip
Feb 13, 2004
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Van Dijk is not all that anyway, imo.

I had a debate with a Mickeys fan in the summer, because he was convinced they would be getting him. He insisted until he was blue in the face that he is a better defender than Toby. Came up with all kinds of stats to prove it, too :)
 

midoNdefoe

the member formerly and technically still known as
Mar 9, 2005
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As we don't have a thread for what we say about ourselves I thought I'd pop it in here for fun. Below are some posts after the team was announced. I've not outed anyone, it's just a bit of fun. A lot of the bed wetters I have on ignore so I'm sure I've missed a lot of material. Hell, I've said a lot of crap on here and wanted De Boer instead of Poch (I still cringe about posting this) :)

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I think it'll be a draw, although we should be looking to rip their defence to shreds.

A victory against these is due. We need to be right on top defensively. We then need to take any chances we get. The key will be how long we can keep Liverpool out for and if we get on top first.

We need to be bang at it today and take our chances, their defence will always give up a chance or two and we need to be brave in possession but also be prepared to play it long if they swarm over us at the back...we've given up goals before trying to play our way out against these.

Team Announced

God help us

Don’t get that line up at all?? Where’s dier?

Wtf? Two left backs on the bench and two right backs starting...

Trippier LWB...*sigh*

Bizzare lineup

Salah is gonna have a field day.

Will be happy with a point after seeing the line-up. Must be major concerns over Rose and Davies. Don't know about Dele and Winks marshaling Coutinho's runs from midfield either.

could this be a tactical masterclass by poch or did the news about dier create some bad vibes?

Hopefully we are saying that he's a genius 10 minutes after this match too... (y)(y)(y)(y)

Looks like it's set up for the counter attack to me... It's the paciest side we can put out. (y)

Calm your tits - (well said Riggi)

Baffling starting line-up but I hope we beat the Dippers nonetheless. Klopp might be wondering how to play against this line-up.

The more I look at that team for this game, the more bonkers it looks. lol This is not the game to be experimenting in. Anyway, hope he's up for making early changes if it goes tits up. COYS!

Puzzled by the selection but proofs in the pudding and Poch can always change it around if it's not working...

Well he was true to his word, he did say that he was gonna pick a wtf team

I wish Poch would learn his lesson about a right back playing left back. We have 2 on the bench and Vertongen for christ sake, it's asking for trouble. :facepalm:

Aurier at lb to counter salah pace. Hopefully we play on counter but looks as though poch is going gung ho (y)

That midfield is so going to get overrun :whistle:

We don't know what's happening but would be truly disastrous man management from Poch if so.

Honestly think they are going to rip us apart with that lineup, expected us to play more defensive but that doesn't seem the case.

Poch realised when you have Toby Sanchez vertonghen you don’t need a DM lol

We'll win. Fuck em.

Aurier on Salah's side I assume. Tactically I guess that's decent idea. No Sissoko or Dier in midfield seems a tad optimistic though. That said, if we work hard as a team we've got some serious attacking talent in that side.

Worried about how wrong this could go-really baffling-will be in awe if it comes off and would take a draw now

I hope picking a wierd team v Real Madrid and getting a result hasn't gone to Poch's head.

Bound to be Aurier on Salah. Reduce their pacey option, who creates the space for their other attackers, and you go a long way to nullifying their threat. (Mr Pink gets it)

Looking at that line up and our recent form against Liverpool I'll be happy with a Desmond today, that's what I am predicting

Time to put in a proper performance at Wembley, it's long over due. Hoping we play with urgency and tempo.

Pleased to see Son playing, no doubt Poch sees the high press Liverpool play as an opportunity to use pace behind their high defence., (y)

We have a shit record against pool, we aren't great at Wembley and that lineup looks like we are asking for trouble. Which probably means we will win 5-0 and this will be a masterstroke.

...so the answer to Dier getting turned over last year is...no midfield?

Bizarre line up on the face of it, hopefully it's just crazy enough to work

Can see us getting overran in midfield today.Surely sissoko has to start if dier is ill? A midfield of winks eriksen and alli is not strong enough or solid enough defensively

Looking at their team they are nothing to be scared of. The front three are good but that midfield that must be one of the worst Liverpool midfield three ever. Can, Henderson and Milner? We should murder them. (This got 1 optimistic rating instead of the 100 winners it should've got) (y)

Crazy team - this could go very well or very badly.

Reckon it's same formation as Madrid. Dele instead of sissoko. Son for llorente. Aurier lwb

Why Trippier and not KWP at LWB?!

I can’t decide how this is going to go. On the one hand Liverpool won’t sit back so we don’t have to break them down. On the other hand. We have Trippier at left back.

That's another cooky looking line up. Wonder if he's deliberately playing a RB at LB to counter the fact that Salah plays WR forward and cuts inside onto his left ? Time will tell, like Tuesday, could be brave genius could be fucking nuts, either way we are going to have to be right at it.

Salah is going to goose Trippier every time he runs past him. Could be painful. :LOL:

Not looking forward to this, looks like we're going to attack them and play an open game which is 100% the wrong way to play against this Liverpool side. Hope I'm completely wrong.

Winks and Erickson not exactly powerhouse midfield. And with no Dier behind them quite worrying. I said this in my last post that we do not have strength in depth and we seem to keep loosing players to injury and can’t get a solid team momentum going. But loosing Dier, Davis, Rose, Wanyama and Dembele all from the starting 11 is not good not good at all. Would take a draw right now especially at Wembley.

2-0

I am never going to doubt Poch's tactics again. Also, that draw against Madrid has seriously given us some belief hasn't it? We don't even look uncomfortable right now, we are all over them.

We can knock balls over the top of them all day...they cannot handle it.

If only we had bought a pacey player in the summer

FORTRESS WEMBLEY

Some unbeleivable armchair-coaches there!!

I'm amazed people still think they are in a better position to pick the team than Poch!?!
 

Lilbaz

Just call me Baz
Apr 1, 2005
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I had a debate with a Mickeys fan in the summer, because he was convinced they would be getting him. He insisted until he was blue in the face that he is a better defender than Toby. Came up with all kinds of stats to prove it, too :)

Like how many goals the opposition scored?
 

tiger666

Large Member
Jan 4, 2005
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As we don't have a thread for what we say about ourselves I thought I'd pop it in here for fun. Below are some posts after the team was announced. I've not outed anyone, it's just a bit of fun. A lot of the bed wetters I have on ignore so I'm sure I've missed a lot of material. Hell, I've said a lot of crap on here and wanted De Boer instead of Poch (I still cringe about posting this) :)

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We'll win. Fuck em.

I win
 

StartingPrice

Chief Sardonicus Hyperlip
Feb 13, 2004
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Not how it works. The defender at the back of the line is responsible for keeping his line because he is the one that can see the whole picture, least experienced or not. You can't expect the defender who is nearest to the ball to be watching anything else other than the player he is marking and the ball itself. You are right about communication but if Lovren turns around to see what is going on behind him and loses Kane he is completely at fault for switching off and losing his man. Fact is he is watching the ball and Kane(who he see's as 2 yards offside) and had the fullback not been quite a way out of position that passage of play leads to absolutely nothing, and Pool get a free kick for the offside.

Fair point. I was a winger...what do I know about the finer arts of defending. Losing the ball resulted in me standing on my own, berating the heavens, waving my arms and sulking. Being left isolated and not passed to resulted in the same :)

I did say I agreed with you, though. I'm not trying to exculpate Gomez. Nor Matip. Nor Boxer-Face (in goal). Nor any other Mickey. Just pointing out that they generally don't seem to be very well up on communication.

Kane(who he see's as 2 yards offside)

I've just been looking at it again - freeze frame. Kane is maybe a yard behind Lovren. But Gomez is coming back towards the play, so maybe he realized. More importantly, freezing it, Matip is also behind Lovren and, unlike Gomez, not moving up to play. Kane looks more offside when he receives the ball than when it is played. It is actually very tight, so brilliantly worked by Harry if he is aware of Gomez coming back up to play. And their line is all round pretty poor.

Doesn't matter if Gomez is 19 or 39 his lack of experience is no excuse for something that will have been drilled into every defender since they are 10 years old. It is such a basic mistake it's untrue. Don't get me wrong it happens and it happens to even the best defenders at times but there is no doubt in my mind having watched it 20 odd times that Gomez was far more at fault than Lovren and Klopp.

True. And to repeat, I wasn't actually disagreeing with you. But for chrissakes...help a young fella out will ya...! :) Seriously, I think it looks worse on Gomez when you freeze it looking across the line and he is playing Harry on, as he is coming back towards play and when Harry receives the ball which is a split second after Tripper plays it, both Lovren and Matip are farther back than he is. Maybe we should be looking at it more as a very well worked goal taking advantage of a tiny and closing gap in the Liverpool defence, than just blaming the Liverpool defence full-stop?

Holding a line in that situation on the edge of your own box is not something professional defenders should really need to be coached on.

No, but the whole culture of defending is something that the manager has ultimate responsibility for IMHO. Afaiac Klopp is negligent.
 

Gb160

Well done boys. Good process
Jun 20, 2012
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As we don't have a thread for what we say about ourselves I thought I'd pop it in here for fun. Below are some posts after the team was announced. I've not outed anyone, it's just a bit of fun. A lot of the bed wetters I have on ignore so I'm sure I've missed a lot of material. Hell, I've said a lot of crap on here and wanted De Boer instead of Poch (I still cringe about posting this) :)

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I think it'll be a draw, although we should be looking to rip their defence to shreds.

A victory against these is due. We need to be right on top defensively. We then need to take any chances we get. The key will be how long we can keep Liverpool out for and if we get on top first.

We need to be bang at it today and take our chances, their defence will always give up a chance or two and we need to be brave in possession but also be prepared to play it long if they swarm over us at the back...we've given up goals before trying to play our way out against these.

Team Announced

God help us

Don’t get that line up at all?? Where’s dier?

Wtf? Two left backs on the bench and two right backs starting...

Trippier LWB...*sigh*

Bizzare lineup

Salah is gonna have a field day.

Will be happy with a point after seeing the line-up. Must be major concerns over Rose and Davies. Don't know about Dele and Winks marshaling Coutinho's runs from midfield either.

could this be a tactical masterclass by poch or did the news about dier create some bad vibes?

Hopefully we are saying that he's a genius 10 minutes after this match too... (y)(y)(y)(y)

Looks like it's set up for the counter attack to me... It's the paciest side we can put out. (y)

Calm your tits - (well said Riggi)

Baffling starting line-up but I hope we beat the Dippers nonetheless. Klopp might be wondering how to play against this line-up.

The more I look at that team for this game, the more bonkers it looks. lol This is not the game to be experimenting in. Anyway, hope he's up for making early changes if it goes tits up. COYS!

Puzzled by the selection but proofs in the pudding and Poch can always change it around if it's not working...

Well he was true to his word, he did say that he was gonna pick a wtf team

I wish Poch would learn his lesson about a right back playing left back. We have 2 on the bench and Vertongen for christ sake, it's asking for trouble. :facepalm:

Aurier at lb to counter salah pace. Hopefully we play on counter but looks as though poch is going gung ho (y)

That midfield is so going to get overrun :whistle:

We don't know what's happening but would be truly disastrous man management from Poch if so.

Honestly think they are going to rip us apart with that lineup, expected us to play more defensive but that doesn't seem the case.

Poch realised when you have Toby Sanchez vertonghen you don’t need a DM lol

We'll win. Fuck em.

Aurier on Salah's side I assume. Tactically I guess that's decent idea. No Sissoko or Dier in midfield seems a tad optimistic though. That said, if we work hard as a team we've got some serious attacking talent in that side.

Worried about how wrong this could go-really baffling-will be in awe if it comes off and would take a draw now

I hope picking a wierd team v Real Madrid and getting a result hasn't gone to Poch's head.

Bound to be Aurier on Salah. Reduce their pacey option, who creates the space for their other attackers, and you go a long way to nullifying their threat. (Mr Pink gets it)

Looking at that line up and our recent form against Liverpool I'll be happy with a Desmond today, that's what I am predicting

Time to put in a proper performance at Wembley, it's long over due. Hoping we play with urgency and tempo.

Pleased to see Son playing, no doubt Poch sees the high press Liverpool play as an opportunity to use pace behind their high defence., (y)

We have a shit record against pool, we aren't great at Wembley and that lineup looks like we are asking for trouble. Which probably means we will win 5-0 and this will be a masterstroke.

...so the answer to Dier getting turned over last year is...no midfield?

Bizarre line up on the face of it, hopefully it's just crazy enough to work

Can see us getting overran in midfield today.Surely sissoko has to start if dier is ill? A midfield of winks eriksen and alli is not strong enough or solid enough defensively

Looking at their team they are nothing to be scared of. The front three are good but that midfield that must be one of the worst Liverpool midfield three ever. Can, Henderson and Milner? We should murder them. (This got 1 optimistic rating instead of the 100 winners it should've got) (y)

Crazy team - this could go very well or very badly.

Reckon it's same formation as Madrid. Dele instead of sissoko. Son for llorente. Aurier lwb

Why Trippier and not KWP at LWB?!

I can’t decide how this is going to go. On the one hand Liverpool won’t sit back so we don’t have to break them down. On the other hand. We have Trippier at left back.

That's another cooky looking line up. Wonder if he's deliberately playing a RB at LB to counter the fact that Salah plays WR forward and cuts inside onto his left ? Time will tell, like Tuesday, could be brave genius could be fucking nuts, either way we are going to have to be right at it.

Salah is going to goose Trippier every time he runs past him. Could be painful. :LOL:

Not looking forward to this, looks like we're going to attack them and play an open game which is 100% the wrong way to play against this Liverpool side. Hope I'm completely wrong.

Winks and Erickson not exactly powerhouse midfield. And with no Dier behind them quite worrying. I said this in my last post that we do not have strength in depth and we seem to keep loosing players to injury and can’t get a solid team momentum going. But loosing Dier, Davis, Rose, Wanyama and Dembele all from the starting 11 is not good not good at all. Would take a draw right now especially at Wembley.

2-0

I am never going to doubt Poch's tactics again. Also, that draw against Madrid has seriously given us some belief hasn't it? We don't even look uncomfortable right now, we are all over them.

We can knock balls over the top of them all day...they cannot handle it.

If only we had bought a pacey player in the summer

FORTRESS WEMBLEY
Funny stuff from the experts like normal lol, you shoulda put the names on them though.
 

fletch82

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Funny stuff from the experts like normal lol, you shoulda put the names on them though.

They are all in the match thread anyway so if ya really wanna know not that hard to find I recognised a few instantly and the author's :p
 

StartingPrice

Chief Sardonicus Hyperlip
Feb 13, 2004
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Like how many goals the opposition scored?

Such considerations were strangely inadmissible. Headers won was his favourite stat. Watching matches and seeing how effective Toby is was inadmissible. I think goals scored was further proof of his defensive superiority over Toby - and when I pointed out that last season was a very poor representative sample to take for Toby as he is usually far more prolific...you guessed it, that was inadmissible too :)
 

Gb160

Well done boys. Good process
Jun 20, 2012
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At least we're getting some credit from the Scousers:

I don't think Spurs were as good as people are making out, none of their goals yesterday were well worked, hopeful punts into the box turning into 4 goals because of some shocking defending.

We could have beaten them if we could defend

They didn't win because they were all that excellent. We gave them every single goal. They didn't have to work for the win. We just gift wrapped our arses and gave it to them. That's the galling part. I can take being beaten by a superior team. I can't stomach losing it like that.
 

worcestersauce

"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
Jan 23, 2006
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At least we're getting some credit from the Scousers:
Sad thing is that they are right that they were poor yesterday but they just don't grasp the fact that they are still poor today and will be poor tomorrow because they are poor full stop.
They have great holes in their team and won't succeed until they fill them but that will take effort, training and some brains but most of all it requires them to realise other teams are actually better than them and stop deluding themselves and that goes for the club too.
There's no quick fix, if anyone knows that we do.
 

Gb160

Well done boys. Good process
Jun 20, 2012
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Sad thing is that they are right that they were poor yesterday but they just don't grasp the fact that they are still poor today and will be poor tomorrow because they are poor full stop.
They have great holes in their team and won't succeed until they fill them but that will take effort, training and some brains but most of all it requires them to realise other teams are actually better than them and stop deluding themselves and that goes for the club too.
There's no quick fix, if anyone knows that we do.
What hurts them most about yesterday, is that it proved to even the most deluded scousers that any faint hope they had of winning the title this season is gone. If they'd won then the delusion train would've been back up and running at full speed.
We crushed their dreams in 90 minutes, and more and more of them are seeing through their gurning chimp of a manager.
 
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