What our opponents' fans are saying about us 17/18

[spursfan77]

Those quotes from RedCafe by @KILLA_SIN earlier. Was reading through them, and mid-way thought to myself how mad it was i was reading this from Man United fans. All through my childhood, they were by far and away the best team in the country over that period. It's mental how far we've come, to now see they're depressed at being at a lesser level than us

The thing is, it would be great to beat them next weekend after last season when we disappointed there again. I wouldn't be surprised if it's a one all draw.

 

[danielneeds]

The thing is, it would be great to beat them next weekend after last season when we disappointed there again. I wouldn't be surprised if it's a one all draw.

I wouldn't be surprised if Jose tries to use the last game at WHL as a bit of motivation pre-match. They all looked thoroughly pissed off to be caught up in our party.

 

[Cornpattbuck]

I still don't get the media fascination. Bloke is a gurning nut job. Every time I see him on the sideline or giving an interview I just think of this...

Perfect! That or Taz.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

Van Dijk is not all that anyway, imo.

If he was that good he'd likely be at Citeh or Chel$ea by now. They would just bludgeon the Saints with money until they caved in. What really surprised me was that after failing to land him Liverpool didn't go and get a number two or three target they went and blew thirty five million on Ox.

Fucking stupid move for someone to fill a position that didn't need filling i.m.o.

 

[fatpiranha]

On Merseyside today:

Good day for - Big Pharma (as sales of antidepressants rocket), heroin dealers, off licences, purveyors of razor blades, rope and rickety chairs.

Bad day for - Cats (massive reported rise in impact injuries - *see also: women).

 

[buttons]

'Spurs has the best defence in the league last season and still spent big on Sanchez and Aurier.

We conceded 42 goals and signed Robertson..........who can’t even get in the team.'

Never has a truer word been spoken.

 

[double0]

Van Dijk is not all that anyway, imo.

ok but theres not a doubt he'll improve them, greatly.

 

[McArchibald]

He certainly won't be after a season playing with Pool's current backline, and under Klopp's defensively inept stewardship.

Ssssstttt... I want them to blow 60m on Van Dijk. Keeps them from buying someone useful...

 

[guiltyparty]

Just had a look. In Klopp's last two seasons at Dortmund, the team conceded 2 or more goals on 26 occasions!!

Klopp's defences have always leaked lots of goals throughout his career bar the title-winning seasons

 

[goughie1966]

As we don't have a thread for what we say about ourselves I thought I'd pop it in here for fun. Below are some posts after the team was announced. I've not outed anyone, it's just a bit of fun. A lot of the bed wetters I have on ignore so I'm sure I've missed a lot of material. Hell, I've said a lot of crap on here and wanted De Boer instead of Poch (I still cringe about posting this)

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I think it'll be a draw, although we should be looking to rip their defence to shreds.

A victory against these is due. We need to be right on top defensively. We then need to take any chances we get. The key will be how long we can keep Liverpool out for and if we get on top first.

We need to be bang at it today and take our chances, their defence will always give up a chance or two and we need to be brave in possession but also be prepared to play it long if they swarm over us at the back...we've given up goals before trying to play our way out against these.

Team Announced

God help us

Don’t get that line up at all?? Where’s dier?

Wtf? Two left backs on the bench and two right backs starting...

Trippier LWB...*sigh*

Bizzare lineup

Salah is gonna have a field day.

Will be happy with a point after seeing the line-up. Must be major concerns over Rose and Davies. Don't know about Dele and Winks marshaling Coutinho's runs from midfield either.

could this be a tactical masterclass by poch or did the news about dier create some bad vibes?

Hopefully we are saying that he's a genius 10 minutes after this match too...

Looks like it's set up for the counter attack to me... It's the paciest side we can put out.

Calm your tits - (well said Riggi)

Baffling starting line-up but I hope we beat the Dippers nonetheless. Klopp might be wondering how to play against this line-up.

The more I look at that team for this game, the more bonkers it looks. lol This is not the game to be experimenting in. Anyway, hope he's up for making early changes if it goes tits up. COYS!

Puzzled by the selection but proofs in the pudding and Poch can always change it around if it's not working...

Well he was true to his word, he did say that he was gonna pick a wtf team

I wish Poch would learn his lesson about a right back playing left back. We have 2 on the bench and Vertongen for christ sake, it's asking for trouble.

Aurier at lb to counter salah pace. Hopefully we play on counter but looks as though poch is going gung ho

That midfield is so going to get overrun

We don't know what's happening but would be truly disastrous man management from Poch if so.

Honestly think they are going to rip us apart with that lineup, expected us to play more defensive but that doesn't seem the case.

Poch realised when you have Toby Sanchez vertonghen you don’t need a DM lol

We'll win. Fuck em.

Aurier on Salah's side I assume. Tactically I guess that's decent idea. No Sissoko or Dier in midfield seems a tad optimistic though. That said, if we work hard as a team we've got some serious attacking talent in that side.

Worried about how wrong this could go-really baffling-will be in awe if it comes off and would take a draw now

I hope picking a wierd team v Real Madrid and getting a result hasn't gone to Poch's head.

Bound to be Aurier on Salah. Reduce their pacey option, who creates the space for their other attackers, and you go a long way to nullifying their threat. (Mr Pink gets it)

Looking at that line up and our recent form against Liverpool I'll be happy with a Desmond today, that's what I am predicting

Time to put in a proper performance at Wembley, it's long over due. Hoping we play with urgency and tempo.

Pleased to see Son playing, no doubt Poch sees the high press Liverpool play as an opportunity to use pace behind their high defence.,

We have a shit record against pool, we aren't great at Wembley and that lineup looks like we are asking for trouble. Which probably means we will win 5-0 and this will be a masterstroke.

...so the answer to Dier getting turned over last year is...no midfield?

Bizarre line up on the face of it, hopefully it's just crazy enough to work

Can see us getting overran in midfield today.Surely sissoko has to start if dier is ill? A midfield of winks eriksen and alli is not strong enough or solid enough defensively

Looking at their team they are nothing to be scared of. The front three are good but that midfield that must be one of the worst Liverpool midfield three ever. Can, Henderson and Milner? We should murder them. (This got 1 optimistic rating instead of the 100 winners it should've got)

Crazy team - this could go very well or very badly.

Reckon it's same formation as Madrid. Dele instead of sissoko. Son for llorente. Aurier lwb

Why Trippier and not KWP at LWB?!

I can’t decide how this is going to go. On the one hand Liverpool won’t sit back so we don’t have to break them down. On the other hand. We have Trippier at left back.

That's another cooky looking line up. Wonder if he's deliberately playing a RB at LB to counter the fact that Salah plays WR forward and cuts inside onto his left ? Time will tell, like Tuesday, could be brave genius could be fucking nuts, either way we are going to have to be right at it.

Salah is going to goose Trippier every time he runs past him. Could be painful.

Not looking forward to this, looks like we're going to attack them and play an open game which is 100% the wrong way to play against this Liverpool side. Hope I'm completely wrong.

Winks and Erickson not exactly powerhouse midfield. And with no Dier behind them quite worrying. I said this in my last post that we do not have strength in depth and we seem to keep loosing players to injury and can’t get a solid team momentum going. But loosing Dier, Davis, Rose, Wanyama and Dembele all from the starting 11 is not good not good at all. Would take a draw right now especially at Wembley.

2-0

I am never going to doubt Poch's tactics again. Also, that draw against Madrid has seriously given us some belief hasn't it? We don't even look uncomfortable right now, we are all over them.

We can knock balls over the top of them all day...they cannot handle it.

If only we had bought a pacey player in the summer

FORTRESS WEMBLEY

 

[shelfmonkey]

As this is the 'Let's all laugh at Liverpool' thread.............

 

[hellava_tough]

Very true.

Even with the second one you can say that while the initial mistake is his, Matip and Gomez (whoever was there) made no attempt to cover him despite having no one to mark and between them and Milner they just gave Son a free run etc.

Lovren at fault but a defensive unit works harder to make up for the error etc.

Either way, brilliant execution by Kane to make the most of both opportunities.

Agreed - Matip is just standing there like a complete muppet with his hand in the air:

 

[hellava_tough]

Also, Mignolet has got out of jail with his performance yesterday - at fault in the first and fourth goals

 

[jurgen]

Van Dijk is not all that anyway, imo.

They could have spent £60m on him and we'd still have 4 better centre backs! Think on that...

 

[StartingPrice]

Look Kane does what he does, and he is superb at it. No one is questioning that. For all I know Kane knew Gomez was playing him onside, and if so that doesn't surprise me one bit. All I am saying is there is no way Lovren knew Gomez was 2 yards behind the rest of the back four, because he is watching Kane who to him was clearly offside. To scapegoat him for that goal just shows how Naïve the Pool fans and Klopp really are when it comes to their defensive unit. Watch the goal again and see Lovren's reaction as the ball goes over, he instantly looks to the Linesman almost in disbelief that Kane is onside.

I agree with you...so don't think I'm arguing against your point:

But what happened to the members of a defensive unit communicating with one another? What happened to a defensive unit being tutored and trained in how vital communication and awareness is to their effective functioning? There's just nothing there. Gomez should have been more aware. He should have been looking along and seeing that he was playing Kane on. But Lovren should have been looking round and making sure that everyone was on the same page, too, especially if they want to hold a line and play offside. He's supposed to be their senior defender...isn't he? Heaven help them!

The real blame, afaiac, lies with Klopp. When Poch was managing Lovren he was a player big clubs were competing to sign. Poch could make Liverpewel more effective as an defensive unit - because he knows how to set a defence up and he knows how to engage every single player on the pitch in the notion that defending is a team effort. And he gets it about the Prem and English/British football.

IMHO...of course

 

[mattie g]

If he was that good he'd likely be at Citeh or Chel$ea by now. They would just bludgeon the Saints with money until they caved in. What really surprised me was that after failing to land him Liverpool didn't go and get a number two or three target they went and blew thirty five million on Ox.

Fucking stupid move for someone to fill a position that didn't need filling i.m.o.

Just buy someone...ANYONE!

Sounds like something a lot of fans on SC would say.

 

[yido_number1]

Funny thing about Redknapp and Sounes is that one or both of them were on Sky saying how VVD wouldn't make a difference after one of their thrashings this season talking with Carragher. They spent ages highlighting how the system needs to change and how they need to be coached better. Then this week it's all "VVD would have made all the difference etc".

Fact is Klopp can't coach a defense and the way they play leaves them open.

 

[SlotBadger]

As we don't have a thread for what we say about ourselves I thought I'd pop it in here for fun

I was adamant you couldn't have possibly copied and pasted those quotes from a Spurs forum.

But then I saw this...

Winks and Erickson not exactly powerhouse midfield

 

[spursfan77]

If he was that good he'd likely be at Citeh or Chel$ea by now. They would just bludgeon the Saints with money until they caved in. What really surprised me was that after failing to land him Liverpool didn't go and get a number two or three target they went and blew thirty five million on Ox.

Fucking stupid move for someone to fill a position that didn't need filling i.m.o.

and spending that on a shit player.

 

[Trix]

I agree with you...so don't think I'm arguing against your point:

But what happened to the members of a defensive unit communicating with one another? What happened to a defensive unit being tutored and trained in how vital communication and awareness is to their effective functioning? There's just nothing there. Gomez should have been more aware. He should have been looking along and seeing that he was playing Kane on. But Lovren should have been looking round and making sure that everyone was on the same page, too, especially if they want to hold a line and play offside. He's supposed to be their senior defender...isn't he? Heaven help them!

The real blame, afaiac, lies with Klopp. When Poch was managing Lovren he was a player big clubs were competing to sign. Poch could make Liverpewel more effective as an defensive unit - because he knows how to set a defence up. And he gets it about the Prem and English/British football.

IMHO...of course

Not how it works. The defender at the back of the line is responsible for keeping his line because he is the one that can see the whole picture, least experienced or not. You can't expect the defender who is nearest to the ball to be watching anything else other than the player he is marking and the ball itself. You are right about communication but if Lovren turns around to see what is going on behind him and loses Kane he is completely at fault for switching off and losing his man. Fact is he is watching the ball and Kane(who he see's as 2 yards offside) and had the fullback not been quite a way out of position that passage of play leads to absolutely nothing, and Pool get a free kick for the offside.

Doesn't matter if Gomez is 19 or 39 his lack of experience is no excuse for something that will have been drilled into every defender since they are 10 years old. It is such a basic mistake it's untrue. Don't get me wrong it happens and it happens to even the best defenders at times but there is no doubt in my mind having watched it 20 odd times that Gomez was far more at fault than Lovren and Klopp. Holding a line in that situation on the edge of your own box is not something professional defenders should really need to be coached on.