Unpopular Opinion thread

[SUIYHA]

Our fans are amongst the worst in the country at coming up with new and good songs. Was so apparent in Madrid - Liverpool's player songs are so much better than any of ours especially the Firmino and Van Dijk ones - all we could respond with was oooooh Moussa Sissoko. Boring.

The last player to get a catchy new song with us was Alli, and yet we nicked it off West Ham/Arsenal - he originally had a more unique hokey cokey song that got replaced for some reason. The last innovative player song we got before then was....Van Der Vaart maybe?

 

[Bulletspur]

So you make a point of not complying now then for what purpose?

Simple, because I am not aware this is an amnesty thread clever cloggs

 

[homer hotspur]

I thought that was the whole point but perhaps I got it wrong. I also hadn't realised there had been quite a few posts about this issue before I posted. Pity there isn't a ' clever cloggs' rating !

 

[TheHoddleWaddle]

The champions league has ruined domestic football. It shouldn't be be called the champions league because teams that finish 4th, even 5th are in it ffs.

Marginal 'offside' goals, that would be referred to var, should be given without doing so. Give the benefit to the attacking side. Encourage goals, not borefest football.

Old handball rule to be reinstated. Hand to ball, none of this 'unnatural postion' complete nonsense.

Scrap the title 'premier league' because its pretentious and wank. Division 1, 2 etc etc. Its just a name but I've always hated it. It inflates the egos and makes a romance of what is essentially just a sport.

Sissoko is still a bang average footballer. He hasn't had a resurgence and pochettino didnt work miracles. He just changed his position. He is a monster athlete, but he struggles to do anything productive with the ball. (Occasionally). Hugeky overated.

Aurier is a car crash. I prefer Trippier. Dont see the fuss about kwp.

Come.at me bitches.

 

[dannythomas]

My unpopular/inaccurate opinion is thus:

Cool, we've signed Ndombele. (And Clark)

We need a lot more than that if we are going to be competitive.

Personally I reckon a further two first team signings is a minimum requirement, otherwise I think this window will be underwhelming given the amount of work the squad needs.

Only Ndombele isn't enough.

If Ndombele is the replacement for Dembele then we also need to replace Toby and Eriksen assuming they are going and bring in a right back . I don’t believe that Foyth, Dier or Davies are good enough at the highest level to replace Toby which leaves only Verts and Sanchez and we have seen that none of the options at RB have been convincing. . A lot of rumours about Sessegnon which is fine but Rose and Davies do not make that a priority. And either we give Llorente another year or bring in someone better.
We saw what happened when our squad was exhausted and we somehow just about held on to 4th place . So in a scenario of Toby, Eriksen , Trippier and Llorente out then we really need 4 replacements as a minimum in addition to Ndombele.

 

[hellava_tough]

I got over the CL final defeat within 2 days; I wasn't that fussed

Spoiler

It's because it was such a shock to get there and the fact that we're well ahead of schedule in terms of our planning.

Our original objective was to secure CL football in the first full season of the stadium opening. Instead, we've qualified for the CL 4 seasons on the trot.

Plus, the stadium build was always going to be a painful distraction, but it had to be done at some point to ensure our future sustainability at the top-table in the footballing hierarchy. So any success during the building/moving period was a total bonus.

Anyway, so yeah, that's why I wasn't completely gutted about losing the final.

Now that our infrastructure is in place, we can hopefully have a good summer's rebuild and look to compete at the highest levels going forward.

 

[For the love of Spurs]

Far more worried about Toby going than Eriksen.

Yeh Eriksen is great, but he has flaws, poor pressing, average dribbling, gets bullied in some big matches and so on. That Lo Celso looks to have a more all round game and for me seems more like a Poch kind of player. Long as we replace Eriksen with say Lo Celso and maybe Ceballos thrown in I am fine.

Toby by contrast has few if any flaws, I think Sanchez has amazing potential but it’s a shame to lose such a brilliant defender if he goes.

 

[hellava_tough]

Far more worried about Toby going than Eriksen.

Yeh Eriksen is great, but he has flaws, poor pressing, average dribbling, gets bullied in some big matches and so on. That Lo Celso looks to have a more all round game and for me seems more like a Poch kind of player. Long as we replace Eriksen with say Lo Celso and maybe Ceballos thrown in I am fine.

Toby by contrast has few if any flaws, I think Sanchez has amazing potential but it’s a shame to lose such a brilliant defender if he goes.

You can throw Jan in there too; he might be off next season

 

[For the love of Spurs]

You can throw Jan in there too; he might be off next season

Yeh that’s a killer too, he is such a calm defender hope they give him at least a 2 year deal.

 

[Gb160]

Here's mine:

Fans 'analysis' on players/managers/transfers/formations/tactics is by and large complete and utter nonsense.
It's staggering how many think their opinions are valid and hold any weight whatsoever.

 

[For the love of Spurs]

Here's mine:

Fans 'analysis' on players/managers/transfers/formations/tactics is by and large complete and utter nonsense.
It's staggering how many think their opinions are valid and hold any weight whatsoever.

You could probably add former players and commentators to that list as well.

When you watch Man City destroy some little team and the commentator and a former player next to him starts saying they need to get stuck in more as if brute strength will make up for the huge gulf in class, tactics and general ability.

Maybe back in the day of 4-4-2 but so much has changed but still the old English mentality of they don’t like it up em persists among older ex players and commentators.

In the era of Pep, Klopp and Poch it’s they who know most about modern football.

 

[Gb160]

You could probably add former players and commentators to that list as well.

When you watch Man City destroy some little team and the commentator and a former player next to him starts saying they need to get stuck in more as if brute strength will make up for the huge gulf in class, tactics and general ability.

Maybe back in the day of 4-4-2 but so much has changed but still the old English mentality of they don’t like it up em persists among older ex players and commentators.

In the era of Pep, Klopp and Poch it’s they who know most about modern football.

Yeah its getting a bit better with the more recently retired players going into punditry...but you have pundits who haven't played the game for 20-30 years, a lot has changed since then.

 

[hellava_tough]

You could probably add former players and commentators to that list as well.

When you watch Man City destroy some little team and the commentator and a former player next to him starts saying they need to get stuck in more as if brute strength will make up for the huge gulf in class, tactics and general ability.

Maybe back in the day of 4-4-2 but so much has changed but still the old English mentality of they don’t like it up em persists among older ex players and commentators.

In the era of Pep, Klopp and Poch it’s they who know most about modern football.

And journalists.

The thing is, because we're on Spurscommunity regularly we get directed to well researched articles and reports about our club. I'm thinking Swiss Ramble, Tifo, ITK info, etc.

So we generally know what's going on, which really highlights the lack of knowledge from most sports writers, who tend to recycle the same old talking points and click-bait.

For example, 99% of journalists said that we didn't have any money to spend on players this summer because of the new stadium project costing £1billion.

But from reading into the subject, it was quickly apparent that (i) the costs were for the stadium and further land development projects, (ii) £350m had already been paid, (iii) the costs would vary depending on loan rates (iv) the sale of flats, etc, would further reduce the loan costs and (v) the payment of the £650m loan would be staggered over 20/25 years and will be comfortably paid for through increased revenues and a naming rights deal, once it is finally agreed.

Which all leaves Spurs in a healthy financial position to spend on players, etc.

Yet the line that that we haven't got any money persists in even the 'broadsheets'...

 

[Deleted member 27995]

... Sissoko is still the same sort of player he has always been and that he stood out last year due to our piss poor play for the majority of the season in central mid.

... With each passing year, the thrill of what might be drops a notch.

... We're no closer to winning the league than we have ever been and we will struggle to close the gap even with all that we have achieved off the pitch in the last 'X' amount of years.

 

[Neon_Knight_]

I don't think Foyth and Sanchez will ever be as good as Vert and Aldo especially in Foyths case. Sanchez could develop into a good player but I'm not convinced but Foyth has never shown me that he has the potential to reach their heights.

I really hope we're wrong, but I have to agree with you on this.

As much as Jan and Toby are rated by our fans, I'm not convinced the majority realise just how good they are. It's one of the strongest CB pairings in PL history. A fully fit King and Woodgate is our only pairing in modern times that deserves a place in the same sentence, and that was a pretty short-lived and sporadic partnership.

I can see our defence going the same way as Man Utd's did after they lost Ferdinand and Vidic...not bad, but the opposition forwards will sleep much better the night before facing them.

 

[hellava_tough]

... Sissoko is still the same sort of player he has always been and that he stood out last year due to our piss poor play for the majority of the season in central mid.

... With each passing year, the thrill of what might be drops a notch.

... We're no closer to winning the league than we have ever been and we will struggle to close the gap even with all that we have achieved off the pitch in the last 'X' amount of years.

That's a long time!

What about the 90s, 2000s and even 5 or 6 years ago?

True, it'll be difficult to win the league with City and Pool doing so well, but you never know; they might slip up at some point. If that happens, we've got a squad to capitalise on it.

Previous squads wouldn't be able to do that, which means that we're closer to winning the league than previously.

 

[Neon_Knight_]

I don't agree with the make or break but what I will say is that if Levy delivers then Poch is under pressure to deliver himself, I think it was Conte who said that Spurs managers aren't under pressure and he was right, I think that demanding the chairman pushes the boat out and if he does then the manager will need to deliver. I'm not sure what that is because Man City are an unstoppable force but certainly last season in the league where we capitulated can not be repeated.

Closing that 27 point gap would be a good start though.

Perhaps an attainable target for next season is to rack up 80+ points and have a couple of good cup runs again. I would hope Levy is more concerned with being highly competitive in the PL and CL than winning a domestic cup.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

That's a long time!

What about the 90s, 2000s and even 5 or 6 years ago?

True, it'll be difficult to win the league with City and Pool doing so well, but you never know; they might slip up at some point. If that happens, we've got a squad to capitalise on it.

Previous squads wouldn't be able to do that, which means that we're closer to winning the league than previously.

I don't agree, hence why it's an unpopular opinion I suppose.

 

[SpunkyBackpack]

The Tottenham Hotspur ITK (@SpursITK_) is the best account on twitter and proves that our fans are some of the most stupid in the country.

This will be Lloris last season as no 1.

 

[Spurrific]

1) The only way Lloris is replaced as number 1, is if he leaves for a bigger club than us.
2) Our fans are delusional/don’t understand football and don’t realise how lucky we’ve been to have him for as long as we have. When he goes, if we replace him with Gazzaniga I’m tearing up @SargeantMeatCurtains’ season ticket. We would need to spend at least £50m to adequately replace him.
3) Trippier has never been that good and the only reason he looked semi passable a few years back is because we had a midfield that took the onus off the defence. This year, he’ll probably look better as there’ll be less defensive responsibility - doesn’t change the fact he’s the worst footballer at the club.