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Uefa defends referee's decision to allow Llorente's decisive goal against Manchester City

mawspurs

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Uefa has defended the role of the video assistant referee in Wednesday’s remarkable Champions League quarter-final second leg at the Etihad Stadium, saying that all angles of Fernando Llorente’s goal were made available to on-field referee Cuneyt Cakir.

Source: Telegraph
 

yiddopaul

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If the goal were a Liverpool goal or Man City goal, there would be no debate. It would hardly get a mention. On Yahoo (US), one of the sports headlines was "The footballing world is in uproar after VAR gaff" (or very similar). Then it 'proved' it by sharing 6 salty Twitter posts probably from City or Chelsea fans.
 

Spurrific

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Literally nothing wrong with the goal, incredible people have tried to make out City were fucked over. Soz we ruined the quadruple dream boiz
 

John48

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If the goal were a Liverpool goal or Man City goal, there would be no debate. It would hardly get a mention. On Yahoo (US), one of the sports headlines was "The footballing world is in uproar after VAR gaff" (or very similar). Then it 'proved' it by sharing 6 salty Twitter posts probably from City or Chelsea fans.

If there had been no VAR it wouldn't have been disputed.

At best the ball brushed his arm, but it's inconclusive & surely no Ref could have not given it or I forgot Halsey. Still Gallagher said it should have stood & that's good enough for me.
 

Armstrong_11

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If there had been no VAR it wouldn't have been disputed.

At best the ball brushed his arm, but it's inconclusive & surely no Ref could have not given it or I forgot Halsey. Still Gallagher said it should have stood & that's good enough for me.

To me, the handball was inconclusive, which means the original call stands and the goal counts.

but if no VAR... we would have lost 5-3. not sure if the linesman caught the offside. it's a fraction and off the ball. so thank god for VAR!
 

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Uefa has defended the role of the video assistant referee in Wednesday’s remarkable Champions League quarter-final second leg at the Etihad Stadium, saying that all angles of Fernando Llorente’s goal were made available to on-field referee Cuneyt Cakir.

Source: Telegraph

It was the right decision!
 

Yid-ol

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Bit of a daft question on the handball/non hand ball debate. If defending and the arm is out of the natural silhouette it's a handball, so if it did hit llorente's hand but was in his silhouette, is this then not a handball anyway?

Ifab chief David Elleray explained: "If the arms are extended beyond that silhouette then the body is being made unnaturally bigger, with the purpose of it being a bigger barrier to the opponent or the ball.

"Players should be allowed to have their arms by their side because it's their natural silhouette."

This was a quite after the PSG game and I am sure it was mentioned in our first leg also about
the silhouette.
 

Johnny J

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If it was handball, then the rule may as well be any touch of the arm at all in the box is handball, no matter how it happens or where the arms are.

Llorente's arm was literally held tight next to his body. It couldn't have been any less deliberate.
 

Spurs' Pipe Dreams

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Bit of a daft question on the handball/non hand ball debate. If defending and the arm is out of the natural silhouette it's a handball, so if it did hit llorente's hand but was in his silhouette, is this then not a handball anyway?



This was a quite after the PSG game and I am sure it was mentioned in our first leg also about
the silhouette.

Yep! They can't have it both ways, Rose's was not a pen imo but if you're going to use the whole shadow... intentional... silhouette... bollocks then it would have gone in from Llorente's hip/body.


And also it's Man City so fuck them
 

UbeAstard

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If the goal were a Liverpool goal or Man City goal, there would be no debate. It would hardly get a mention. On Yahoo (US), one of the sports headlines was "The footballing world is in uproar after VAR gaff" (or very similar). Then it 'proved' it by sharing 6 salty Twitter posts probably from City or Chelsea fans.

I don't agree with this 'everybody's against us' attitude. There was plenty of debate and discussion about the VAR decision for the penalty against Danny Rose last week. Stop this emotive reasoning which is exclusive of facts.
 

UbeAstard

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Literally nothing wrong with the goal, incredible people have tried to make out City were fucked over. Soz we ruined the quadruple dream boiz

The majority of people haven't. Due to some questionable VAR decisions, the ones which may come down to interpretation and isnt straight forward will always have some people who raise objections, its to be expected.
 

Yid-ol

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I don't agree with this 'everybody's against us' attitude. There was plenty of debate and discussion about the VAR decision for the penalty against Danny Rose last week. Stop this emotive reasoning which is exclusive of facts.

The penalty in the first leg was the correct call, by UEFAs rules, and going by those rules llorente's arm was not out of his natural silhouette position and didn't look to play it with his arm (don't think that's said in the rules, but guess it must be looked at also) so even if it did touch his arm/hand it's a goal.

If Man city or other people think they were hard done by with VAR, it evened itself out over the 2 games I say, we just took our chance.
 

UbeAstard

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The penalty in the first leg was the correct call, by UEFAs rules, and going by those rules llorente's arm was not out of his natural silhouette position and didn't look to play it with his arm (don't think that's said in the rules, but guess it must be looked at also) so even if it did touch his arm/hand it's a goal.

If Man city or other people think they were hard done by with VAR, it evened itself out over the 2 games I say, we just took our chance.

I don't see what difference that makes to what I am saying, I'm saying there was debate over that one correct or not as there was over Llorentes.
 

Sir Henry

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I've no doubt at all it hit his arm, but where the fuck was he supposed to put it ? In his ass ?
 
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