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Uefa defends referee's decision to allow Llorente's decisive goal against Manchester City

yiddopaul

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I don't agree with this 'everybody's against us' attitude. There was plenty of debate and discussion about the VAR decision for the penalty against Danny Rose last week. Stop this emotive reasoning which is exclusive of facts.
I didn’t say I think everybody’s against. I don’t think they are. I was trying to make the point that there are sections of the media that have a bias/affinity with ‘certain’ other teams that this debate would not be raging on, were it for said teams. In-fact it would barely be a footnote. I happen to think most people (bar our rivals) are pro-Spurs and how we’re doing things.
 
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CoopsieDeadpool

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The penalty in the first leg was the correct call, by UEFAs rules, and going by those rules llorente's arm was not out of his natural silhouette position and didn't look to play it with his arm (don't think that's said in the rules, but guess it must be looked at also) so even if it did touch his arm/hand it's a goal.

If Man city or other people think they were hard done by with VAR, it evened itself out over the 2 games I say, we just took our chance.


It's context, though. This "natural silhouette" thing is misleading & doesn't take into account the fact that it's actually "natural" for ANY/EVERY player to have his arm(s) in the position Rose did when he slid for that block in the first leg.

It's 100% unnatural for your arms to be anywhere else when sliding/going to ground. Just as it's "natural" to bring your arms/elbows up when jumping out challenging for a header.

Whether jumping or sliding, it's 100% "natural" (human fucking nature) to raise/use your arms for balance.
 

Yid-ol

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It's context, though. This "natural silhouette" thing is misleading & doesn't take into account the fact that it's actually "natural" for ANY/EVERY player to have his arm(s) in the position Rose did when he slid for that block in the first leg.

It's 100% unnatural for your arms to be anywhere else when sliding/going to ground. Just as it's "natural" to bring your arms/elbows up when jumping out challenging for a header.

Whether jumping or sliding, it's 100% "natural" (human fucking nature) to raise/use your arms for balance.

I don't agree with it, but going by the rules laid out by UEFA at the start, the calls were correct.
 

Matthew Wyatt

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Re VAR in general, is it the referee or the VAR people who ultimately decide whether an incident needs to be reviewed on the screen? Can the proper ref override calls or is he compelled to watch it again from all angles in slo-mo?
 

teedee

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Re VAR in general, is it the referee or the VAR people who ultimately decide whether an incident needs to be reviewed on the screen? Can the proper ref override calls or is he compelled to watch it again from all angles in slo-mo?

Every goal is automatically reviewed. As I understand it the ref has the last word.
 

Matthew Wyatt

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Every goal is automatically reviewed. As I understand it the ref has the last word.
But they don’t do the screen sign for every goal, so are the VAR people saying hey, you need to have a look at this, and he decides whether or not he wants to?
 

theShiznit

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But they don’t do the screen sign for every goal, so are the VAR people saying hey, you need to have a look at this, and he decides whether or not he wants to?
I think that when the ref has to go and take a look it's because the VAR people have told him they think the decision is wrong, but these are not matters of fact decisions and so the man who makes the decisions on the pitch has the final say on subjective decisions.
 
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