Tottenham to raise the stakes for Morgan Schneiderlin

[mawspurs]

Tottenham Hotspur are expected to return with an improved offer for Morgan Schneiderlin, the Southampton midfield player, within the next 48 hours.

Read the full article at The Times

 

[spursintheblood]

Looking at his stats makes me think he would be a great acquisition. Do we need him? Would he be worth it to upgrade a position already well covered by Sandro, Capoue and Bentaleb? Initially I would have been nonplussed if we got him or not as I think we had other requirements, but considering the fact that a) Poch wants him and b) he knows the system and would be in a pivotal role in central midfield, I have come round to the idea.

More importantly than that I think we need to send message of intent. For the last few years we have been knocking on the door of potential greatness, but we are still not attractive enough or big enough to hold off interest for our top players (Berbatov, Modric, Bale or Carrick even). We need to change our mindset. We have to be prepared to be the predator club sometimes and get in the players that we want when we want them. Levy is a master of the negotiation, but true or not in reality, the impression I have is that often times we are tripped up by being too clever in the deal, or even being gazumped at the last by a "bigger" club a lá Willian.

Schneiderlin is a very good player. We should be ruthless in our pursuit of him now because he is not only a gifted, but because we need to give the impression of strength and authority. From this the press will spin us as being positive and dynamic, leading to a positive impression and a raised profile for the club. Or we could become the only team Southampton said no to. I know that there will be those who reckon spending close to £25m for a player to create good headlines will be aghast at my reasoning, but we have already signaled our interest. This is a player we want. Within reason (an indefinable quality I know) we have to go out and get him.

 

[miles_64]

@deppman007 - why are you neg repping the guy who found this article and bothered to post it on here? Pretty disrespectful, chap.

 

[Sarsipius]

If he really wants to leave so bad he should hand in a transfer request (which he hasn't according to reports) and not just bitch about it on twitter.

Everyone wants to have their cake and eat it these days.

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

Contact bonus's and severance pay outs etc have killed football.
Watch "The Premier League Years" on sky sports, in the 90's every manager that was falling resigned. No sackings, no mutual consent. They admitted they weren't doing their job well and they left. Because they didn't cling to the job in the desperate how they'd get compensation for being sacked.
Now players are doing everything except ask to leave because they too want their bonus.
It's a disgrace.

 

[spursintheblood]

Contact bonus's and severance pay outs etc have killed football.
Watch "The Premier League Years" on sky sports, in the 90's every manager that was falling resigned. No sackings, no mutual consent. They admitted they weren't doing their job well and they left. Because they didn't cling to the job in the desperate how they'd get compensation for being sacked.
Now players are doing everything except ask to leave because they too want their bonus.
It's a disgrace.

But Shaw, Lallana, Lovren, Lambert and Chambers did not have to give up their bonuses. Schneiderlin is an important part of their team yes, but the others were as well. Why should he have to give up his bonus? He was going in to have a meeting about his move and they changed the goalposts it seems. Pretty sure I would be peeved as well.

Plus modern players have about 6 - 8 years at the top. If they make it at all. Loyalty is one thing, but this is his job. If your boss was unreasonable, then hunting around for a new role somewhere else, or going for promotion at a more stable and determined business would be something you'd do. I would/have.

 

[Cornishlilywhite]

But Shaw, Lallana, Lovren, Lambert and Chambers did not have to give up their bonuses. Schneiderlin is an important part of their team yes, but the others were as well. Why should he have to give up his bonus? He was going in to have a meeting about his move and they changed the goalposts it seems. Pretty sure I would be peeved as well.

Plus modern players have about 6 - 8 years at the top. If they make it at all. Loyalty is one thing, but this is his job. If your boss was unreasonable, then hunting around for a new role somewhere else, or going for promotion at a more stable and determined business would be something you'd do. I would/have.

Sorry!!! How long was It that you signed your contract at work for...... Exactly
Everybody on here was up in arms when Bale, Ratboy etc all left because they were still "under contract" Now all of a sudden we want to do it and its all ok. The double standards here are fucking amazing

 

[vigospur]

Contact bonus's and severance pay outs etc have killed football.
Watch "The Premier League Years" on sky sports, in the 90's every manager that was falling resigned. No sackings, no mutual consent. They admitted they weren't doing their job well and they left. Because they didn't cling to the job in the desperate how they'd get compensation for being sacked.
Now players are doing everything except ask to leave because they too want their bonus.
It's a disgrace.

Love your sentiment about 1990s managers but our Club alone sacked Venables, Shreeves, Ardiles and Gross (and Graham in 2001). Francis resigned with the team fighting relegation and Pleat after revelations about his private life.

 

[vigospur]

Sorry!!! How long was It that you signed your contract at work for...... Exactly
Everybody on here was up in arms when Bale, Ratboy etc all left because they were still "under contract" Now all of a sudden we want to do it and its all ok. The double standards here are fucking amazing

It's a football forum!

 

[spursintheblood]

Sorry!!! How long was It that you signed your contract at work for...... Exactly
Everybody on here was up in arms when Bale, Ratboy etc all left because they were still "under contract" Now all of a sudden we want to do it and its all ok. The double standards here are fucking amazing

I never wanted Bale to leave obviously. Nor Modric. But for me the contract is not the important thing. That is purely for transfer fees and wage levels. If a player does not want to play for us then he should go, which is where I was at with both of them. Pretty sure I have not made any hypocritical comments and as a teacher I also have windows when I can sign for as new place of work, once 7 months before the "transfer".

Schneiderlin does not want to play for them, he wants to play for us. Keeping hold of disgruntled players does not work. Even heroes like Modric, Bale, Berbs have to go when they want to. ONLY players who want to play for the club should be on the field. I don't care how much skill they have, nor how much people have become attached to them. It is about the CLUB and playing to their best.

I don't like what is happening to Soton, they were an good team to watch and it is unfair that boardroom changes should bollox everything on the field. But they have a top player wanting to play for us. He may play well for them this year, but as soon as the windows role around there will be disruption.

 

[Shirtfront]

If he really wants to leave so bad he should hand in a transfer request (which he hasn't according to reports) and not just bitch about it on twitter.

Everyone wants to have their cake and eat it these days.

You mean have their cake; eat it; and then tell everyone about it on twitter and post a photo of them eating it on instagram before updating their status to "full of cake" on facebook.

 

[ginola007]

If Schneiderlin wants to come and we want him, then the deal is done. It's now a matter of "how much"; no different than Bale and Modric.
From our standpoint, we have a glut of central midfielders, a few of whom we need to sell to make room. Again, it's about getting the best price. This takes time. All will be sorted out in the next couple of weeks.

 

[Cornishlilywhite]

I never wanted Bale to leave obviously. Nor Modric. But for me the contract is not the important thing. That is purely for transfer fees and wage levels. If a player does not want to play for us then he should go, which is where I was at with both of them. Pretty sure I have not made any hypocritical comments and as a teacher I also have windows when I can sign for as new place of work, once 7 months before the "transfer".

Schneiderlin does not want to play for them, he wants to play for us. Keeping hold of disgruntled players does not work. Even heroes like Modric, Bale, Berbs have to go when they want to. ONLY players who want to play for the club should be on the field. I don't care how much skill they have, nor how much people have become attached to them. It is about the CLUB and playing to their best.

I don't like what is happening to Soton, they were an good team to watch and it is unfair that boardroom changes should bollox everything on the field. But they have a top player wanting to play for us. He may play well for them this year, but as soon as the windows role around there will be disruption.

I never wanted Bale to leave obviously. Nor Modric. But for me the contract is not the important thing. That is purely for transfer fees and wage levels. If a player does not want to play for us then he should go, which is where I was at with both of them. Pretty sure I have not made any hypocritical comments and as a teacher I also have windows when I can sign for as new place of work, once 7 months before the "transfer".

Schneiderlin does not want to play for them, he wants to play for us. Keeping hold of disgruntled players does not work. Even heroes like Modric, Bale, Berbs have to go when they want to. ONLY players who want to play for the club should be on the field. I don't care how much skill they have, nor how much people have become attached to them. It is about the CLUB and playing to their best.

I don't like what is happening to Soton, they were an good team to watch and it is unfair that boardroom changes should bollox everything on the field. But they have a top player wanting to play for us. He may play well for them this year, but as soon as the windows role around there will be disruption.

I dont recall if you personally were pissed off with RM over their "quest" for bale and ratface (im not anally retentive). But, im damn sure 99% of this forum were, me included. And to paraphrase your last 2 posts you totally contradict yourself
1. Your dont like whats happening at soton
2. Let's get in there and be the predator and act like the bigger club
Sorry mate but you cant have it both ways
For what its worth, I think we will eventually get him and contracts are an absolute joke

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

Looking at his stats makes me think he would be a great acquisition. Do we need him? Would he be worth it to upgrade a position already well covered by Sandro, Capoue and Bentaleb? Initially I would have been nonplussed if we got him or not as I think we had other requirements, but considering the fact that a) Poch wants him and b) he knows the system and would be in a pivotal role in central midfield, I have come round to the idea.

This.


I prefer looking at football, and over the years have seen some God awful stats for players like Best, Law, Lineker, Gazza, Hoddle and even Klinsmann. If our managers at the time used stats to but players we'd be trading or would have shown the door certainly to Archibald, Gough, and a nailed on Ricky Villa.

Schneiderlin has everything none of our midfielders possess, and that's killer passing, pace, and can be the driving heartbeat of the team that can change a game. Oh and he's knows Poch's system and works it to the limit. That's one stat you cannot find written in any footie blog.

Liverpool are allegedly after him as well, but id' bet any money that the last thing on Brenda's mind is the players stats.

In my opinion worth as much as we paid for Lamela and some.

 

[Kendall]

This.


I prefer looking at football, and over the years have seen some God awful stats for players like Best, Law, Lineker, Gazza, Hoddle and even Klinsmann. If our managers at the time used stats to but players we'd be trading or would have shown the door certainly to Archibald, Gough, and a nailed on Ricky Villa.

Schneiderlin has everything none of our midfielders possess, and that's killer passing, pace, and can be the driving heartbeat of the team that can change a game. Oh and he's knows Poch's system and works it to the limit. That's one stat you cannot find written in any footie blog.

Liverpool are allegedly after him as well, but id' bet any money that the last thing on Brenda's mind is the players stats.

In my opinion worth as much as we paid for Lamela and some.

Modric was a prime example of substance over stats.

 

[Jenko]

Mixed feelings, but ye gotta back the man in charge.

On a side note, you'd swear Southampton won the league the way teams have got into a frenzy for their players this summer.....

 

[penfold_99]

From the Real Madrid play book on hostile transfers, Can't we fedex him a full spurs kit so he can turn up to training kitted out?

Might get things moving!

 

[Black]

He needs to do what modric did put in transfer request and play rubbish, eriksen will probably do the same when barca come calling