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lukespurs7

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So I've been thinking about this since our gutting loss to Chavski at Wembley.

Everyone talking about spurs and our missed chance and that we bottled it again in another semi final etc etc. But I think the obvious key point here is that we're a much better team that we've ever been comparatively to the other teams in our division. Since 1993 at no point have we ever been challenging for the title and barely ever have we been close to 2nd/3rd especially not this late on in a season for 2 seasons running.

I feel as if we're now a top2/3 ranked tennis player, not quite the very best like Federer was at his peak and you knew he'd win grand slams, but we are a close 2nd/3rd battling with 4/5 other very similar standard players. This is our first major cup semi whilst we've been this good and you could say being 2nd at this point but going on to finish 2nd/3rd is also similar to reaching a semi final.

Now whilst previously if we'd got to a semi final, we were probably anything from 5th-14th ranked team and would have a significant quality gap between us and the top teams, hence why we kept getting knocked out and more often than not out played on these occasions. This time that wasn't the case, we outplayed Chelsea for most the match but they used their experience to win this one. Our time will come if we keep this group of players and they keep learning sooner or later a 2/3 ranked player will win a grand slam if they keep performing to that high level and reaching semi finals. We are just the same, if we keep performing as we are we will win the league or fa cup or Europe league etc in the next 3-4 years for sure.

It's a tough ask to keep up this level and keep all of our key players but if we do I see no reason not to be optimistic especially if poch and the players keep believing then the fans will too. And once we get that first trophy the curse will be lifted and we'll start to get a few.

COYS.
 
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Gb160

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dagraham

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Interesting eulogy, er enalogy.......sorry, I meant analogy;).

Funny you should start a thread on this, as this was a post I made in the match thread after the game :


Yeah I agree to a point and especially your last paragraph.

To use your tennis analogy though, sport is all about big moments.

It's like a tennis player who seems to dominate the match, but fails to convert enough break points or serves a double fault at a crucial time. The player who plays the important points well tends to win the match.

Until we can do this we'll always be "nearly there".
 

danielneeds

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I used this analogy in the "what do we have to do" thread.

To me we are like Murray when he lost all those semis and finals before his first US Open. You knew he had he talent, but could he find the self-belief deep down to beat Federer, Nadal and Djokovic.

We definitely are no Henman. He was just a shite grass court chancer.
 

Gb160

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I don't think tennis is the best analogy tbh.
In tennis once a player peaks and starts to decline, that's pretty much it.
In football nowadays if a super rich club at the top starts to decline, they spunk £300m and get a new manager.

I think our only choices to actually win trophies is to either:
A) Try to hold on to these players/manager together for a fair few more years in the hope some will be truly world class.
B) Do what the other trophy winning regulars do and and buy fully developed, world class, finished article players.

It's frustrating as fans because we're close, really fucking close, but I think it's no coincidence that barring Leicester last year, the huge majority of pots are won by very few clubs, clubs with players who can make the difference when it really matters.
Considering B is extremely unlikely in the near future with our current owners and model, even with the new stadium, we have to hope A pays off I suppose.
 

-Afri-Coy-

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I think a lot of people love to see us fail, seems as we've been smashing it pretty much for two years straight with the youngest squad in the EPL. No one wants to see us progress any further, and the chances they get to try bring down our mentality and achievements, they will use them.

At any time when we lose or under perform, there tends to be more criticism which tells me a few pundits and fans out there are really angry at the progress we've made under Poch. Haters are gonna hate, they have nothing better to do with their time.

We are in that position where our merits go unheard of and our failures are blasted out for the world to see. Not that it effects us in anyway, it's like banging a 10 and all your mates try and nitpick at her because they out there picking up 2's for a kebab and a cheap shag. You're still gonna brag about your 10 aren't you?

We take their cheap shots on the chin and keep moving forward. That is the new Spurs way.
 
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nightgoat

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I used this analogy in the "what do we have to do" thread.

To me we are like Murray when he lost all those semis and finals before his first US Open. You knew he had he talent, but could he find the self-belief deep down to beat Federer, Nadal and Djokovic.

We definitely are no Henman. He was just a shite grass court chancer.

At least Andy Murray never had to put up with Sky Sports trying to sell his forehand to Rafa Nadal every fucking week...
 

fortworthspur

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Since Bill Nicholson retired, in our cup winning seasons we've finished 4th, 10th twice and 11th twice. In other words, we've been a mid-table club that occasionally wins a cup.
 

lukespurs7

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I used this analogy in the "what do we have to do" thread.

To me we are like Murray when he lost all those semis and finals before his first US Open. You knew he had he talent, but could he find the self-belief deep down to beat Federer, Nadal and Djokovic.

We definitely are no Henman. He was just a shite grass court chancer.
Agree
 

Time for Heroes

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I used this analogy in the "what do we have to do" thread.

To me we are like Murray when he lost all those semis and finals before his first US Open. You knew he had he talent, but could he find the self-belief deep down to beat Federer, Nadal and Djokovic.

We definitely are no Henman. He was just a shite grass court chancer.


Love this post, just because the Henman part is a bit unnecessary!
 
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