The Spurs Youth Thread - 2018/19

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he left to go to chelsea, it was only because we threatened to report them that he ended up at palace.

other clubs were after tob at the time too but we managed to convince him to stay. i remember saying that it'll be interesting to see which of the two made the right choice but as it stands neither are really where they'd hoped to be at this stage, though it's still relatively early days for both. i've been disappointed by tob's progress(or lack of) and i'm not really sure what we're trying to achieve this season by constantly playing him as a winger, to be fair he's quite a difficult player to define but i don't see this as the best way of using him.
So, basically, it would appear they both got their heads turned and have struggled to focus since.

Interestingly, with our lack of transfer activity, I really hope Edwards and Onomah are busting a gut to prove themselves. Clearly got the talent.
 

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So, basically, it would appear they both got their heads turned and have struggled to focus since.

Interestingly, with our lack of transfer activity, I really hope Edwards and Onomah are busting a gut to prove themselves. Clearly got the talent.
He seems to have an extremely poor attitude, unfortunately. He isn't producing anything special in Holland, either. I really really hope it works out for him but I am not so sure.
 

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Agree he ditched us for the promised land of Chelsea - but why when they bring no-one through their ranks?

TBH he would have had as good a chance breaking thru with us as any other premiership club.
money i guess, though he did grow up a chelsea fan so maybe that came into it.

He seems to have an extremely poor attitude, unfortunately. He isn't producing anything special in Holland, either. I really really hope it works out for him but I am not so sure.

They do not notice anything of discipline problems like at Norwich City. "He has to be there at half past nine, he is always on time."
- adrie poldervaart (excelsior manager)

perhaps he is growing up, or maybe the accusations were overblown to begin with. unfortunately though once a player gets tagged with having a bad attitude then it usually stays with them.
 

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At this point nobody really knows what our transfer spending will be Over next 5 years. But another couple of low spends will definitely indicate some austerity for a few years. On the plus side to that and especially if pochettino stays it may mean we will almost be viewed by the talented kids as a move to Germany now is. A top club but with a realistic chance of 1st team football.
 

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u18s vs brighton:

oluwayemi; tainio, okedina, lyons-foster, cirkin; white, maghoma; markanday, richards, bennett; parrott

subs: kurylowiz, walcott, binks, a.shashoua, clarke
 

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We’re certainly blessed with an abundance of CB.

Do we think Markanday is now ahead of shashoua or it’s just giving people a chance ?
 
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Not familiar with Okedina. Could someone give me a bit of info on him please.
Have been very impressed with him he can play fullback but he is better as a CB or in a back three,he is very strong and has pace but he is very good on the ball as well and I am hoping the club keep him.
 
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Are they not similar both creative tricky players that can play in the 3 behind a striker ?
armando usually plays centre mid, markanday rw. they're similar in that they're both small and technically good but armando's more of a grafter and a schemer whilst markanday is a better dribbler and more direct, they're not really in competition with each other. main reason armando didn't play today is because maghoma dropped down from the u23s.
 

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We’re certainly blessed with an abundance of CB.

Do we think Markanday is now ahead of shashoua or it’s just giving people a chance ?
If you're talking about Sam.

It's giving people a chance. This is what happens the next youngster is always considered better than the older one has we see what a lack of chances or stagnation does we go back to underrating them and the new youngster is still looked at as having potential.

FWIW I think, Markanday slightly pips Shashoua as I like his style more. But of course Shashoua is quality. Which reminds me Lennon wrote an excellent article on Markanday the other day. I personally would be wary of making Best comparisons but Dilan is real quality. Will be another to struggle here though.

https://superhotspur.com/2019/01/03...s-most-consistent-performers-dilan-markanday/
 
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Physical isn't just strength or speed though, is it?

It's the ability to cover a lot of ground and do it game after game after game after game and stay mentally strong.

It's conditioning. I'm wondering if that's where a couple of our young talents have, so far, fallen short, where as Winks and Skipp have excelled. Onomah and Edwards can still do it but they NEED to graft off the pitch.

Great physical conditioning helps all game concentration and coupled with great technique it's absolutely essential now. I think it's underestimated.

Funnily enough it's probably the main reason that, say, Milner has been a much better player since he passed 30. He's clearly worked on it.
Thats ridiculous, players in the same team will do the same conditioning training.

You've mentioned Winks and Skipp as their currently in the 1st team, playing in positions where we're currently short due to injuries. Both their roles in the team are to sit and link play by keeping the ball moving. Winks is ahead of Onomah due to tactical and positional discipline, if Onomah was with us he would be ahead of Skipp in the squad, nothing to do with fitness or conditioning.

We've haven't seen Edwards have a run of games with the 1st team so mentioning him when he plays a completely different role to the other 3, higher up the pitch, in tighter areas and with much more short sprints is baffling to me.

Milner is playing in a team style that suits him. I wonder if you would've mentioned him if he was still at Man City, where he wasn't a regular?
 

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Thats ridiculous, players in the same team will do the same conditioning training.

You've mentioned Winks and Skipp as their currently in the 1st team, playing in positions where we're currently short due to injuries. Both their roles in the team are to sit and link play by keeping the ball moving. Winks is ahead of Onomah due to tactical and positional discipline, if Onomah was with us he would be ahead of Skipp in the squad, nothing to do with fitness or conditioning.

We've haven't seen Edwards have a run of games with the 1st team so mentioning him when he plays a completely different role to the other 3, higher up the pitch, in tighter areas and with much more short sprints is baffling to me.

Milner is playing in a team style that suits him. I wonder if you would've mentioned him if he was still at Man City, where he wasn't a regular?
Calm down dear, it was only my thoughts.
 

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Having been booked already Carre committed a terrible challenge on Markanday to receive a straight red. There was no advantage to Spurs as the wideman had to go off reducing Spurs to ten men as well. Markanday has been one of the most consistent players and his loss will be a big relief for Arsenal in the upcoming FA Youth Cup match.
damn, that's disappointing if that's the case. thankfully, even without him and patterson we've still got good options though. i'm guessing we'll line-up with white, shashoua and maghoma cm, richards rw, bennett lw and parrott up top. the 5th round draw was made the other day by the way, if we beat arsenal then we'll be at home to qpr or west brom.
 

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damn, that's disappointing if that's the case. thankfully, even without him and patterson we've still got good options though. i'm guessing we'll line-up with white, shashoua and maghoma cm, richards rw, bennett lw and parrott up top. the 5th round draw was made the other day by the way, if we beat arsenal then we'll be at home to qpr or west brom.
I like that this u18 team is able to get the job done no matter who starts,example of that today they had Binks and Clarke on the bench.
 
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