The Spurs Youth Thread - 2018/19

Locotoro

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We post a lot about how great the youth players are and the qualities they have but I'dbe really interested in hearing a really balanced explanation of where and how these players can improve without us putting it down to luck?

My personal view is that one of the reasons KWP is being held back is physique. We can see the physical difference between Foyth last year and him this year looks at least 5kg heavier. If KWP can do the same I think he'll be in the first team very quick. It's obvious that is something important to Poch because you can see Kane looks heavier too (although in his case it's disrupted his game)

What is Onomah lacking and what can he do to improve those areas?
 

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We post a lot about how great the youth players are and the qualities they have but I'dbe really interested in hearing a really balanced explanation of where and how these players can improve without us putting it down to luck?

My personal view is that one of the reasons KWP is being held back is physique. We can see the physical difference between Foyth last year and him this year looks at least 5kg heavier. If KWP can do the same I think he'll be in the first team very quick. It's obvious that is something important to Poch because you can see Kane looks heavier too (although in his case it's disrupted his game)

What is Onomah lacking and what can he do to improve those areas?
IM, Onomah is lacking work rate. He needs to look for the ball and make runs when his team are in possession and track his marker & get back into his defensive position when out of possession. Physically and technically, he is fine, it's mentally and tactically where his problem lies.
 

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IM, Onomah is lacking work rate. He needs to look for the ball and make runs when his team are in possession and track his marker & get back into his defensive position when out of possession. Physically and technically, he is fine, it's mentally and tactically where his problem lies.
My worry is these things are not really qualities that can be taught easily. I think they are more about being aware of your surroundings.
 

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IM, Onomah is lacking work rate. He needs to look for the ball and make runs when his team are in possession and track his marker & get back into his defensive position when out of possession. Physically and technically, he is fine, it's mentally and tactically where his problem lies.
I would say that both Winks and Skipp provide tremendous energy and both look very busy even when they are not playing at their best. Onomah tends to look lazy and this works against him. Both managers and fans often get frustrated by languid players such as Onomah and as a result they are often the easiest ones to drop when things get tough. A good manager would get the best out of him but I feel he needs to feel trusted to really perform and until he starts to produce regularly this is almost a catch 22 position for him. Onomah at his best will be a beast but he needs to up his work rate and energy levels to earn the right to play his natural game.
 

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I'm not wound up at all. My comment about changing your opinion on a whim wasn't an isolated reference to just Skipp, but your opinions on players in general, you have history in regards to changing opinion from one way to another based on a singular performance.

Anyway, its derailed the thread now, so Ill just leave it be from here on.
That's harsh, I think coys200 is without doubt the best poster on this forum
 

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I would say that both Winks and Skipp provide tremendous energy and both look very busy even when they are not playing at their best. Onomah tends to look lazy and this works against him. Both managers and fans often get frustrated by languid players such as Onomah and as a result they are often the easiest ones to drop when things get tough. A good manager would get the best out of him but I feel he needs to feel
I've had a look through some of his posts and my opinion has changed. He is a bit hit and miss and is probably a mid table poster at best.
I see what you did there.
 

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Am I fickle and get bored quickly probably, I’m the same with woman. Have I at some point changed my mind about every single player in the spurs squad apart from Son and vertonghen probably. But I take exception to saying I do it on a whim or knee jerk. After seeing Skipp play against men in pre season I became more optimistic. I think my concerns with him are that he will fall into our usual midfield technical player bracket that never really kick on as mason Carroll and now Onomah seems to be doing. Granted I had same fear about Winks and he has pushed above that level. Although I do think Skipp has a bit more about him. What he does have is that swashbuckling style that a mason or Carroll never had. Hopefully he can be more a Bryan robson or Paul ince as opposed to a Parker or noble. It’s a long time since England have produced a midfielder of that type.
 

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This may be a crazy suggestion, but Gibbs-White to me, is going to be one hell of a CM. I'd be happy if we went for two CMs this January / Summer.

One established - 50/60m. But i'd be happy to try and tempt Wolves for this youngster, they don't need the money and 25m might not even be enough. But watch this kid go, so much potential.
 

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This may be a crazy suggestion, but Gibbs-White to me, is going to be one hell of a CM. I'd be happy if we went for two CMs this January / Summer.

One established - 50/60m. But i'd be happy to try and tempt Wolves for this youngster, they don't need the money and 25m might not even be enough. But watch this kid go, so much potential.
Not a chance wolves will sell they have serious ambitions to be top 6. Unless a player is running down a contract it’s incredibly hard to get a player out of another PL team bar say Cardiff or Huddersfield.
 

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