The Spurs Transfer Wishlist & Scouting Thread

[SwedishSpurs]

My shortlist:

Backup goalkeeper:
Nick Pope, David Button, Neil Etheridge

Right back:
Youssuf Atal, Aaron Wan-Bissaka

Left back:
Ferland Mendy, Ryan Sessegnon, Ben Chilwell

Centre back:
Joachim Andersen

Central Midfielder:
Tanguy Ndombele, Giovani Lo Celso, Sander Berge, Amadou Diawara, Adrien Rabiot, Sandro Tonali

Attacking midfielder:
Jack Grealish, Pepe, Jack Clarke, Dan James, David Brooks

Backup striker:
Max Kruse


Literally one from each of these positions with the seeming departures of Vorm, Trippier, Alderweireld, Wanyama, a Dembele replacement, potentially Eriksen, Llorente & Janssen & I'd be well happy with all things considered. Plenty of gettable talent out there this time around withnthe squad definitely needing reinforcements.

Why do you want us to sign an established goalkeeper? Someone like Pope isn’t coming here to be a third keeper and it would be pretty harsh to make Gazzaniga a third keeper again. Promote a youth keeper to that role or sign someone old and/or cheap (like when United signed Grant or Chelsea signed Green).

 

[stevenurse]

Wouldnt Ndombele and Rabiot be a perfect bit of business? Midfield sorted for years, all for circa 70m. If you were to get each for 35 you'd think we've got bargains. Maybe too simplistic a take on it, but I'd hope we're looking at it

 

[Stamford]

We could have done with the likes of shaqiri who didn't cost a fortune. I'm not expecting glamour signings

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

Wouldnt Ndombele and Rabiot be a perfect bit of business? Midfield sorted for years, all for circa 70m. If you were to get each for 35 you'd think we've got bargains. Maybe too simplistic a take on it, but I'd hope we're looking at it

Would be a physically dynamic midfield- especially if you factor in Sissoko

 

[blackburn]

Let's be frank here if our targets aren't already close then its going to be another disaster. You'd think we'd been talking to agents with a set of criteria based on CL, transfer fee and wages, now the first is achieved the others should be in place.

If Daniel persists with his games of poker Poch will surely walk and who can blame him.

 

[rossdapep]

Anybody seen much of Monaco this year? I'm wondering about Gelson Martins...he looked an incredible prospect at Sporting and in the event that Atletico aren't planning on keeping him (I don't know why they let him go on loan) is he worth a look? Haven't seen him play for a couple of years, but whenever I did see him he was one of those players that always made me think, yeah, I'd love to see you play for Spurs.

I honestly don't think he's good enough, he's rapid and looks dangerous but his end product is quite poor. Anyway I think he's staying at Monaco next season.

I live close to Sportings stadium so saw a fair bit of him last season and I was against signing him then.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Wouldnt Ndombele and Rabiot be a perfect bit of business? Midfield sorted for years, all for circa 70m. If you were to get each for 35 you'd think we've got bargains. Maybe too simplistic a take on it, but I'd hope we're looking at it

Rabiot doesn’t want to join us though. Both JJ and the media have repeatedly said this.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

My shortlist:

Backup goalkeeper:
Nick Pope, David Button, Neil Etheridge

Right back:
Youssuf Atal, Aaron Wan-Bissaka

Left back:
Ferland Mendy, Ryan Sessegnon, Ben Chilwell

Centre back:
Joachim Andersen

Central Midfielder:
Tanguy Ndombele, Giovani Lo Celso, Sander Berge, Amadou Diawara, Adrien Rabiot, Sandro Tonali

Attacking midfielder:
Jack Grealish, Pepe, Jack Clarke, Dan James, David Brooks

Backup striker:
Max Kruse


Literally one from each of these positions with the seeming departures of Vorm, Trippier, Alderweireld, Wanyama, a Dembele replacement, potentially Eriksen, Llorente & Janssen & I'd be well happy with all things considered. Plenty of gettable talent out there this time around withnthe squad definitely needing reinforcements.

It's a good short list. I agree with other's comments about a keeper - we only need a good English youngster in that position, otherwise we've got a good #1 and #2.

I also don't think we have a cat in hell's chance of getting Chilwell. Leicester will (justifiably) think they have a crack at the top 6 next year if they can keep Maddison and sign Tielmans.

And Rabiot's just a no-go IMO. He thinks he's 'above' us, and I just can't see that happening.

I'd add Billing to that list. Good player. Maybe even Seri - both good players who we could get

My serious worry, as ever, is that we'll play the waiting game for both incomings and outgoins, while others plough ahead. The net result being: keeping some players we don't want, not getting the ones we do want, and a slow start to the season.

Is it naive to think it could change this summer?

 

[Tucker]

Is jj the law on Tottenham?

A little known fact is that JJ stands for Judge Jredd.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

For what it’s worth Mouhamed Bouhafsi who is Tier 1 for French football said no discussions had taken place with Liverpool but didn’t comment on juventus or Spurs. So make of that what you will.

Yep. It may discredit the Euro United stuff but also suggests we’ve at least been in talks with him (even if an actual agreement may not have been reached).

 

[JamieSpursCommunityUser]

Wouldnt Ndombele and Rabiot be a perfect bit of business? Midfield sorted for years, all for circa 70m. If you were to get each for 35 you'd think we've got bargains. Maybe too simplistic a take on it, but I'd hope we're looking at it

Rabiot is said to want £260k p/w for 5 years + £8.5m agent/signing on fee.

If true, that's equivalent to a £43.5m signing on £120k p/w for 5 years - with the benefit to us I suppose that like the Sissoko signing the fee is spread over 5 years, so not all from our 2019/20 budget.

The downside being a) it upsets dressing room balance - being on £60k p/w more than Kane and double Alli and Son - and b) if the player has a sulk say from being dropped he holds all the power.

The "fee" we're paying him is a pure write down - as when he gets to 2 years left a) we can't renew on £260k p/w as it's like paying another transfer fee for your own player b) it's hard to sell as few or nobody would match his wages.

Even if we then used the fee to pay him off, who would offer him £260k p/w he's used to AND pay us £30m+ to recoup our investment?

It's more risky for our particular model than it seems imo. Juventus seem more ok with this model as they've a higher wage ceiling and greater disparity between player wages.

I'm not totally against it as he's a really good player, but for his reputation it's not risk free, and perhaps other good players we can get for £43.5m.

 

[daryl hannah]

Rabiot is said to want £260k p/w for 5 years + £8.5m agent/signing on fee.

If true, that's equivalent to a £43.5m on £120k p/w for 5 years - with the benefit to us I suppose that like the Sissoko signing the fee is spread over 5 years, so not all from our 2019/20 budget.

The downside being a) it upsets dressing room balance - being on £60k p/w more than Kane and double All and Son - and b) if the player has a sulk say from being dropped he holds all the power.

The "fee" we're paying him is a pure write down - as when he gets to 2 years left a) we can't renew on £260k p/w as it's like paying another transfer fee for your own player b) it's hard to sell as few or nobody would match his wages.

Even if we then used the fee to pay him off, who would offer him £260k p/w he's used to AND pay us £30m+ to recoup our investment?

It's more risky for our particular model than it seems imo. Juventus seem more ok with this model as they've a higher wage ceiling and greater disparity between player wages.

I'm not totally against it as he's a really good player, but for his reputation it's not risk free, and perhaps other good players we can get for £43.5m.

Also his Mum wants £10m agent fee - for basically doing no more than asking for huge sums of money.

 

[DJS]

You’d hope with our new stadium and the fact that we at present have got to a Champions League semi final (and possibly final) that we would maybe be a very attractive propersition in the summer.

But past experience says we don’t tend to push on, I really hope we do though.

Last time we really pulled out a good summer transfer window was when we got Son and Alderweireld.

 

[rawhide]

Rabiot is said to want £260k p/w for 5 years + £8.5m agent/signing on fee.

If true, that's equivalent to a £43.5m signing on £120k p/w for 5 years - with the benefit to us I suppose that like the Sissoko signing the fee is spread over 5 years, so not all from our 2019/20 budget.

The downside being a) it upsets dressing room balance - being on £60k p/w more than Kane and double Alli and Son - and b) if the player has a sulk say from being dropped he holds all the power.

The "fee" we're paying him is a pure write down - as when he gets to 2 years left a) we can't renew on £260k p/w as it's like paying another transfer fee for your own player b) it's hard to sell as few or nobody would match his wages.

Even if we then used the fee to pay him off, who would offer him £260k p/w he's used to AND pay us £30m+ to recoup our investment?

It's more risky for our particular model than it seems imo. Juventus seem more ok with this model as they've a higher wage ceiling and greater disparity between player wages.

I'm not totally against it as he's a really good player, but for his reputation it's not risk free, and perhaps other good players we can get for £43.5m.

If that’s what he wants, he won’t get it from us

 

[stevenurse]

If that’s what he wants, he won’t get it from us

Or anyone else. He's barely played for 6 months. If he was a 260k worthy player, he'd play regardless.

 

[absolute bobbins]

Let's be frank here if our targets aren't already close then its going to be another disaster. You'd think we'd been talking to agents with a set of criteria based on CL, transfer fee and wages, now the first is achieved the others should be in place.

If Daniel persists with his games of poker Poch will surely walk and who can blame him.

Any proof we are not?

 

[brendanb50]

Rabiot is said to want £260k p/w for 5 years + £8.5m agent/signing on fee.

If true, that's equivalent to a £43.5m signing on £120k p/w for 5 years - with the benefit to us I suppose that like the Sissoko signing the fee is spread over 5 years, so not all from our 2019/20 budget.

The downside being a) it upsets dressing room balance - being on £60k p/w more than Kane and double Alli and Son - and b) if the player has a sulk say from being dropped he holds all the power.

The "fee" we're paying him is a pure write down - as when he gets to 2 years left a) we can't renew on £260k p/w as it's like paying another transfer fee for your own player b) it's hard to sell as few or nobody would match his wages.

Even if we then used the fee to pay him off, who would offer him £260k p/w he's used to AND pay us £30m+ to recoup our investment?

It's more risky for our particular model than it seems imo. Juventus seem more ok with this model as they've a higher wage ceiling and greater disparity between player wages.

I'm not totally against it as he's a really good player, but for his reputation it's not risk free, and perhaps other good players we can get for £43.5m.

Nicely broken down. I doubt we're first on his wishlist but a few things which mitigate the finances set out in your post:

- It's common to pay substantial signing bonuses or higher wages for a freebie, maybe there's some middle ground on what's what in a deal with us. i.e. maybe we pay a larger bonus to reduce the weekly salary or move some of that value into bonuses. I can see us doing that on a deal - don't think he'd need to take it though.

- Maybe (speculating here) our wage cap will be budgeted to grow by that sort of margin (+£60k) in the next few years, so perhaps these demands will fall in line with our longer term payment plans for top players.

Either way i think you've covered it well - with those sorts of demands, i think we'll be looking elsewhere. The risk is perhaps too high for Levy, on paper at least.

 

[Shadydan]

Also his Mum wants £10m agent fee - for basically doing no more than asking for huge sums of money.

I thought he sacked his mum?

 

[DanielJohnCosta]

diawara is nothing crash hot. honestly no disrespect but do people see a player who is young and playing at a relatively known side and all of a sudden want to splash cash on them?

 

[Joely]

All depends if levy would stump up the asking fee which is rumoured to be £75m and if we can match the wages being offered to him by other clubs.

I really do think we are resigned to losing both Toby and Eriksen in the summer sales from those to should generate around the £100m figure. In that scenario, I can see us paying a big fee but unfortunately that isn't going to be enough. Under ENIC, spending £60-70m on one player would be seriously pushing the boat out. When the likes of PSG, City, Madrid, Barca, Utd, Chelsea and even Liverpool etc put a huge wad of cash in front of a players agent and say 'we want your boy, now go make it happen', we simply can't compete with that. Almost certain this is what happened with the likes of De Jong and Pulisic.

End of the day ENIC are an investment company and will look for value in the market. Like I said, get the money in from sales, I can see them being prepared to pay a big fee however once wages and especially agents fee's come into, they will waver and the whole deal will look too expensive and they won't see the value in it and we drop out/get beaten.