The Spurs Transfer Wishlist & Scouting Thread

[Japhet]

Max Kruse is a name once mentioned by a german source (Sky Sport Informations).
Already 31 but would love to see him here. Could be the CF cover for Kane but also play with him and behind him. Wouldn't cost a fortune and would be a decent player to have in rotation with our front four. Not the creative playmaker that could replace Eriksen though.

Would be 10x better signing than Sturridge IMO.

 

[am_yisrael_chai]

But we have a chance with Jovic?

Of course we do, Barca want him and we always blow them out of the water in transfer head to heads. Keep up. ?

 

[LeParisien]

With all due respect you seem to be missing the wood from the trees. Trying to micro analyse the contribution of individual signings at Liverpool and then concluding that they haven’t panned out and hence their outlay wasn’t justified is to miss the point that they have massively improved in the league relative to last year and are genuinely challenging for the title whereas we have definitely regressed for the last 2 years. At the same time they reached the CL final and look reasonably certain to get to at least the the SF this season. Dare I suggest that the improvement is at least in part correlated to their transfer activity if for no other reason than they have made it clear to all their players that none of their places are safe whereas we have done the exact opposite offering no real pressure to our starting 11 from our transfer activity.

With all due respect you seem to be missing the wood from the trees. Trying to micro analyse the contribution of individual signings at Liverpool and then concluding that they haven’t panned out and hence their outlay wasn’t justified is to miss the point that they have massively improved in the league relative to last year and are genuinely challenging for the title whereas we have definitely regressed for the last 2 years. At the same time they reached the CL final and look reasonably certain to get to at least the the SF this season. Dare I suggest that the improvement is at least in part correlated to their transfer activity if for no other reason than they have made it clear to all their players that none of their places are safe whereas we have done the exact opposite offering no real pressure to our starting 11 from our transfer activity.

What you’ve done is drag a comment made in a specific context into something it was never intended to be.

My point was not that the outlay Liverpool made was not justified. That is the wrong conclusion. I acknowledged that Keita and Fabinho may improve in future seasons; if so they will become worth the outlay.

My point was that looking to be bold / spend Liverpool money in the summer will not necessarily lead to success over the next season. For one, it won’t necessarily improve the first XI. Liverpool have shown how hard that is to do in the short term, even with a lot of money.

The mistake you make is to attribute the success of Liverpool this season, as opposed to the previous one, to transfers. There are so many factors. Competition for places? Sure. But also a settled squad particularly in defence and attack, staying free of injuries, not losing any key players and a decent sprinkling of luck. The picture is complicated and the purpose of my post was to caution against the magic bullet of spending on transfers.

As an aside, success is most strongly correlated with wages and that has never been more true for us. The big new contracts over the past year are a great sign but the biggest risk to our success is going forward is the potential loss of two big players, Toby and Eriksen. Signing at least the latter to a big new contract would be huge.

 

[Japhet]

What you’ve done is drag a comment made in a specific context into something it was never intended to be.

My point was not that the outlay Liverpool made was not justified. That is the wrong conclusion. I acknowledged that Keita and Fabinho may improve in future seasons; if so they will become worth the outlay.

My point was that looking to be bold / spend Liverpool money in the summer will not necessarily lead to success over the next season. For one, it won’t necessarily improve the first XI. Liverpool have shown how hard that is to do in the short term, even with a lot of money.

The mistake you make is to attribute the success of Liverpool this season, as opposed to the previous one, to transfers. There are so many factors. Competition for places? Sure. But also a settled squad particularly in defence and attack, staying free of injuries, not losing any key players and a decent sprinkling of luck. The picture is complicated and the purpose of my post was to caution against the magic bullet of spending on transfers.

As an aside, success is most strongly correlated with wages and that has never been more true for us. The big new contracts over the past year are a great sign but the biggest risk to our success is going forward is the potential loss of two big players, Toby and Eriksen. Signing at least the latter to a big new contract would be huge.

They massively improved by bringing in Van Dyke and Alisson. They spent big money on 2 areas that obviously needed sorting out.

 

[dondo]

They just have to look at where the scout's eyes are looking

What about if he has boss eyes?

 

[BuckeyeSpurs11]

Ideal window...Grealish & Gomes in midfield, I'd love to add Tielemans to that mix but has to be lower odds of concluding that deal than the other two. Bring in a right back like Thomas Meunier who is defensively much more solid than either of the two that we have right now and can still get forward. Sign a center back - dream world is de Ligt, more likely is Joachim Andersen who is young and will be a 3rd CB behind Davinson & Jan once Toby leaves. Pursue Ryan Sessegnon also along with a lower division youngster that is low risk to take a gamble on - like Jack Clarke from Leeds.

Add creativity and steel to the midfield, competition at right back, some depth at center half and a risk on a prospect or two.

 

[LeParisien]

They massively improved by bringing in Van Dyke and Alisson. They spent big money on 2 areas that obviously needed sorting out.

Alisson was a great signing. So was VVD but he was the year before.

I think we should buy quality this year. I’m not arguing otherwise. It’s a treacherous business though. Beware those offering simple solutions.

 

[am_yisrael_chai]

Alisson was a great signing. So was VVD but he was the year before.

I think we should buy quality this year. I’m not arguing otherwise. It’s a treacherous business though. Beware those offering simple solutions.

Or PSG rejects......

 

[am_yisrael_chai]

What you’ve done is drag a comment made in a specific context into something it was never intended to be.

My point was not that the outlay Liverpool made was not justified. That is the wrong conclusion. I acknowledged that Keita and Fabinho may improve in future seasons; if so they will become worth the outlay.

My point was that looking to be bold / spend Liverpool money in the summer will not necessarily lead to success over the next season. For one, it won’t necessarily improve the first XI. Liverpool have shown how hard that is to do in the short term, even with a lot of money.

The mistake you make is to attribute the success of Liverpool this season, as opposed to the previous one, to transfers. There are so many factors. Competition for places? Sure. But also a settled squad particularly in defence and attack, staying free of injuries, not losing any key players and a decent sprinkling of luck. The picture is complicated and the purpose of my post was to caution against the magic bullet of spending on transfers.

As an aside, success is most strongly correlated with wages and that has never been more true for us. The big new contracts over the past year are a great sign but the biggest risk to our success is going forward is the potential loss of two big players, Toby and Eriksen. Signing at least the latter to a big new contract would be huge.

Probably pointless to continue to debate the impact of transfers on competitiveness as we clearly disagree. What I can guarantee you is that if we behave in the next window as we have in the last 2 that we will be worse next season

 

[Japhet]

Or PSG rejects......

I'd take Meunier in a heartbeat.

 

[YiddoTom90]

Would josef martinez suit our league, different from kane. 46 goals in 55 games. I know its the mls but it caught my eye?

 

[Hotspur_Hero]

Would josef martinez suit our league, different from kane. 46 goals in 55 games. I know its the mls but it caught my eye?

Looks a shadow of himself without Almiron to feed him and Tata setting the team up to play to his strengths. We’re not creative enough in the midfield or wide areas to make a player like martinez effective. He’s a good player who would score bags of goals for the right team, but thats not us. Also as much as I enjoy the MLS,and with as much progress as its made, the defending is still poor across the board. I think there will be some bargain buys out of the MLS in the next few years (Tyler Adams and Alphonso Davies already kicking that off) but Martinez isnt it.

 

[Dharmabum]

Ideal window...Grealish & Gomes in midfield, I'd love to add Tielemans to that mix but has to be lower odds of concluding that deal than the other two. Bring in a right back like Thomas Meunier who is defensively much more solid than either of the two that we have right now and can still get forward. Sign a center back - dream world is de Ligt, more likely is Joachim Andersen who is young and will be a 3rd CB behind Davinson & Jan once Toby leaves. Pursue Ryan Sessegnon also along with a lower division youngster that is low risk to take a gamble on - like Jack Clarke from Leeds.

Add creativity and steel to the midfield, competition at right back, some depth at center half and a risk on a prospect or two.

Where are you going to fit them all?
Spurs already go the following CM: Dier, Wanyama, Skipp, Sissoko, Winks, Dele (I can't see Eriksen remaining) and Lamela can also play as CM.
Besides, with Wanyama's constant injury problems and Dier also being for large periods of this season Spurs would need at least 1 DM this summer,
Not sure if Joachim Andersen is better than Foyth.

 

[DezFitz]

Where are you going to fit them all?
Spurs already go the following CM: Dier, Wanyama, Skipp, Sissoko, Winks, Dele (I can't see Eriksen remaining) and Lamela can also play as CM.
Not sure if Joachim Andersen is better than Foyth.

When and where have you seen Lamela play CM?

 

[alexis]

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I don't dislike Sturridge, but he hasn't been convincing in his cameo appearances for Liverpool.

Mitrovic for me, as long as the fee isn't too high.

Sturridge is class just permacrocked mitrovic would be available for more games. Given his strength sonny Ali Et al would play well off him. He’s Vincent x twenty with scoring ability

 

[mill]

When and where have you seen Lamela play CM?

Agree it’s never happened but I wouldn’t mind seeing it in a 433/451, it’s not much different to what city do with Kdb and Silva. Granted it may be a disaster but it’d be interesting to see

 

[Dharmabum]

When and where have you seen Lamela play CM?

Does that mean he's can't play CM?
If you had seen him play you would have noticed that he often drifts in to the middle of the field so he's certainly not an out-and-out WMF as he tend to drift around the park. And he's deffo got the ball skill and vision to play in CMF

 

[Pistols At Dawn]

Mitrovic and Tielemans with Lamela, Llorente, and Janssen going the other way and our attack is sorted

 

[mill]

Pretty sure mitrovic got sacked off by Benitez cos of lack of effort in training, that ain’t gonna fly with Poch either

 

[Dharmabum]

Looks a shadow of himself without Almiron to feed him and Tata setting the team up to play to his strengths. We’re not creative enough in the midfield or wide areas to make a player like martinez effective. He’s a good player who would score bags of goals for the right team, but thats not us. Also as much as I enjoy the MLS,and with as much progress as its made, the defending is still poor across the board. I think there will be some bargain buys out of the MLS in the next few years (Tyler Adams and Alphonso Davies already kicking that off) but Martinez isnt it.

All credit to Bayern for spotting Davies and taking a chance on him. He's the type of player Spurs should have gone after: fast, tricky left-footed WF.
And credit to @George94 for "spotting" him back in March 2018 (he mentioned him on the Summer transfer wish list)