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-Afri-Coy-

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Serious question.
It's evident that his price has gone up considerably since there were some feint links last summer.
But what would be a realistic price for N'Dombele?

The guy is such a physical specimen with equally impressive attributes.
He's got the agility of an Eriksen.
The engine of a Sissoko.
The vision of a Rafa VDV.
The ball retention of a Dembele
And the power of King Kong.

Quite the package.
Would solve a number of issues with one purchase.
Too bad we didn't get him earlier.

His price will be determined by how many clubs want him and what Aulas thinks he can get for him.

He still has a good 4/5 years on his current deal, which makes things a little tricky.

Given the above 3 factors, my best guess would be the £40-55 Million range, possibly as high as £60 Million depending on his suitors.

Now this fee is not out of the realms of possibility for us, we would just have to taper the payments with performance bonuses. Offer a flat fee of £45 Million, with £15 Million in bonuses and add ons. Pay the amount over a few seasons as everyone does with big money deals. That is an offer I could see Aulas going for. That obviously excludes wages.

If you consider the fact that Savic was rumored to cost around £75-100 Million for his potential suitors last season, and the fact that N'dombele is arguably a better CM with a higher ceiling than SMS, if we could pull of a deal as I said above it would be a cracking piece of business for us financially, and most definitely on the pitch.
 

N17 Kebab

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Long shot this one, but has anyone watched Burnley enough to pass judgement on Dwight McNeil?

The teenager has contributed 3 goals and 4 assists in 14 starts for the Clarets, and is getting rave reviews. From the clips I’ve seen of him, he doesn’t look particularly fast or skilful but moves smoothly with the ball, almost reminiscent of Dele. His end product looks of a high standard for someone his age too.
Yes, he caught my eye first time I saw him play and was kind of surprised there was little fuss about him. Lovely left foot
 

-Afri-Coy-

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M astounded at the amount of people against signing Sessegnon. He’s had a rough year as an 18 year old in the worst side in the division when they’ve just come up, a side who are on their third manager of the season. Even then he’s shown glimpses of his ability regularly enough for people to know it’s there.

Who remembers Bale, straight back from injury, in 08/09? No confidence, and as such constantly making bad decisions, hiding, no first touch, even pace seemed to desert him. I’m not saying Sessegnon is Bale’s class, but if one of the world’s best talents in the last decade can have an awful season as a teenager in a relegation fight at a club who’ve changed manager, then anybody can.

Danny Rose was shocking (I know some of you will rewrite history and say he wasn’t, but he was), until Pochettino came along. Eriksen was inconsistent and often a passenger. Kane had finished the previous season strongly but was still not fancied by most. Mason- no Spurs career whatsoever.

Pochettino improves young footballers, and when they have as much upside as Sessegnon does, even moreso. He scored 16 and made 8 as a 17 year old last year in the Championship. Even this season he has 6 assists for an awful team. The only player we have who has more is Eriksen and that’s in a side containing Harry Kane and Son, a team who has scored exactly twice as many goals at the point of typing.

Young and homegrown is the way forward. The only players, should they leave as expected, who need replacing with ready made stars are Eriksen and Alderweireld. Elsewhere, wherever players have hit a ceiling which just isn’t good enough (Lamela, the right backs, Wanyama), replenishing with young hungry talent with high potential is the way forward for us.

I don't think they are against his signing, they are just worried about what fee Fulham would command for him. £40 Million for potential is a lot more than the £15 or so Million we paid for Bale. There are much more pressing issues to address in our squad with money like that, once those issues are sorted then we can look at spending on Sess.

But I wholeheartedly agree with everything you've said.
 

Hoddle&Waddle

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Knowing we need to go home grown this window I think my preference would be

Declan Rice
Wan Bissaka
Jack Grealish

And depending on outgoings if we could add Sessegnon that would be a great window imo.
 

shelfboy68

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Knowing we need to go home grown this window I think my preference would be

Declan Rice
Wan Bissaka
Jack Grealish

And depending on outgoings if we could add Sessegnon that would be a great window imo.
Rice won't be sold to us the other two can probably see that happening but we need more than three incomings.
 

-Afri-Coy-

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If Eriksen stays, I can't see us sanctioning any deals that would cost us more than the £42 Million we paid for Sanchez. If we do break our transfer record, I think our ceiling will be around £55-60 Million and even that seems very far fetched given our current financial situation. If we get a decent fee for Eriksen, then everything may change.

I would LOVE to be proven wrong, we have no idea what is going on behind the scenes. For all we know Levy is sitting on a £200 Million war chest, seems as we haven't spent a cent in the past two windows, but even I can admit that I have a better chance of bedding Margot Robbie than that amount being available for transfers.

My best guess would be a £50-100 Million net spend, regardless of our outgoings. That amount over 3-5 years (no club pays full fees for players upfront) is plausible for us regardless of our financial situation.

All we can do is hope and dream, we will know more about our funds during the transfer window once this season is over and done with.
 

Japhet

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M astounded at the amount of people against signing Sessegnon. He’s had a rough year as an 18 year old in the worst side in the division when they’ve just come up, a side who are on their third manager of the season. Even then he’s shown glimpses of his ability regularly enough for people to know it’s there.

Who remembers Bale, straight back from injury, in 08/09? No confidence, and as such constantly making bad decisions, hiding, no first touch, even pace seemed to desert him. I’m not saying Sessegnon is Bale’s class, but if one of the world’s best talents in the last decade can have an awful season as a teenager in a relegation fight at a club who’ve changed manager, then anybody can.

Danny Rose was shocking (I know some of you will rewrite history and say he wasn’t, but he was), until Pochettino came along. Eriksen was inconsistent and often a passenger. Kane had finished the previous season strongly but was still not fancied by most. Mason- no Spurs career whatsoever.

Pochettino improves young footballers, and when they have as much upside as Sessegnon does, even moreso. He scored 16 and made 8 as a 17 year old last year in the Championship. Even this season he has 6 assists for an awful team. The only player we have who has more is Eriksen and that’s in a side containing Harry Kane and Son, a team who has scored exactly twice as many goals at the point of typing.

Young and homegrown is the way forward. The only players, should they leave as expected, who need replacing with ready made stars are Eriksen and Alderweireld. Elsewhere, wherever players have hit a ceiling which just isn’t good enough (Lamela, the right backs, Wanyama), replenishing with young hungry talent with high potential is the way forward for us.


I don't think people are 'against' signing Sessegnon but don't want us to blow a major chunk of our budget on him. I'm all for signing potential, but not for 40m. The fact is, at some point if we're going to challenge for anything big, we have to sign some ready made players like our rivals do, otherwise we're in a continual state of flux.
 

rossco

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IF Eriksen was sold for circa 80m. Grealish & N'Dombele come in for a combined similar figure. Are we weaker or stronger?
 

allatsea

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Honest question but have you watched him regularly this season?
Saw a lot of him last season and again this season but only on TV. We get a lot of the PL and Championship games live here in Bulgaria and the rest over the next few days.

IMO in a slight way Sessegnon is another Bale. Started off as a Left Back but his real talent is attacking. Both of them are poor defenders but gifted when going forward. Sessegnon is no Bale but he does have an eye for goal and is fearless in front of goal. He would be a good buy for us.
 

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'sold Elvis and bought the Beatles'.

As many as 12 out. :eek:o_O

Just you feckin dare sell the Beatles and buy feckin S Club 7 (n)
 

-Afri-Coy-

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City are looking at Rodri from Atletico to come in to replace Fernandinho, which may give us a bit of breathing space when it comes to N'dombele.

I can see Pep being happier with Rodri as he has likened him to Busquets, and if they manage to land him I highly doubt they would be in for N'dombele too.
 

Shadydan

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City are looking at Rodri from Atletico to come in to replace Fernandinho, which may give us a bit of breathing space when it comes to N'dombele.

I can see Pep being happier with Rodri as he has likened him to Busquets, and if they manage to land him I highly doubt they would be in for N'dombele too.

Just means Atletico would probably want Ndombele then :D
 

Zlatan

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Just means Atletico would probably want Ndombele then :D

They seem close to signing Hector Herrera on a free. Thomas, Koke, Saul, Herrera (with one of them playing wide). Rodri has a clause at €69M and they just sold Lucas Hernandez for what, €80M? They’ll have a chunk to spend. Godin will leave for Inter as well.
 

doctor stefan Freud

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M astounded at the amount of people against signing Sessegnon. He’s had a rough year as an 18 year old in the worst side in the division when they’ve just come up, a side who are on their third manager of the season. Even then he’s shown glimpses of his ability regularly enough for people to know it’s there.

Who remembers Bale, straight back from injury, in 08/09? No confidence, and as such constantly making bad decisions, hiding, no first touch, even pace seemed to desert him. I’m not saying Sessegnon is Bale’s class, but if one of the world’s best talents in the last decade can have an awful season as a teenager in a relegation fight at a club who’ve changed manager, then anybody can.

Danny Rose was shocking (I know some of you will rewrite history and say he wasn’t, but he was), until Pochettino came along. Eriksen was inconsistent and often a passenger. Kane had finished the previous season strongly but was still not fancied by most. Mason- no Spurs career whatsoever.

Pochettino improves young footballers, and when they have as much upside as Sessegnon does, even moreso. He scored 16 and made 8 as a 17 year old last year in the Championship. Even this season he has 6 assists for an awful team. The only player we have who has more is Eriksen and that’s in a side containing Harry Kane and Son, a team who has scored exactly twice as many goals at the point of typing.

Young and homegrown is the way forward. The only players, should they leave as expected, who need replacing with ready made stars are Eriksen and Alderweireld. Elsewhere, wherever players have hit a ceiling which just isn’t good enough (Lamela, the right backs, Wanyama), replenishing with young hungry talent with high potential is the way forward for us.
Vintage leGin
 

Tucker

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City are looking at Rodri from Atletico to come in to replace Fernandinho, which may give us a bit of breathing space when it comes to N'dombele.

I can see Pep being happier with Rodri as he has likened him to Busquets, and if they manage to land him I highly doubt they would be in for N'dombele too.

City have unlimited money, who’s to say they won’t just buy both.
 

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IF Eriksen was sold for circa 80m. Grealish & N'Dombele come in for a combined similar figure. Are we weaker or stronger?

In reality the question is Dembele and Eriksen VS N’Dombele and Grealish.

And the realistic answer is we’re probably slightly weaker, but at least we would’ve replaced with young players who have the capacity to improve. I would definitely take that deal and then look to see how we can improve in other areas of the pitch.
 

THFCSPURS19

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I'd bring him in as a similar signing to what Rose initially was for us & Bale.

He can play as a winger but I'd have him earmarked based on his development as either a LB or WF. He clearly has a good temperament and clearly he has ability, that alone means he is worth taking a shot at with exceptional HG talent a rare thing.

If it was down to me this summer I think now is the time to go as big as we are able to with the likes of Kane, Dele who will want returns for their talents. We may have already lost Eriksen due to this very reason and I think it's in the clubs best interests to do so.

I'd bring Sessegnon in & give him a season to see how he gets on either as Rose & Davies' understudy & backup to the WFs we have in Son, Lamela & Lucas. I'd bring Andersen in to replace Toby. If Villa don't get promoted I'd still go for Grealish as it's relatively low risk. He clearly has talent & is HG so why squander that opportunity? I'd go go all out for a CM & RB, whoever is number one target for Pochettino.

Out -

Vorm - free
Trippier or Aurier - £25m
Alderweireld - £25m
Wanyama - £5m
Dembele - £11m
Nkoudou £2.5m
Janssen - £5m
Eriksen - £60m
Llorente - free

In c£130m-£135m

Sessegnon £30m
Andersen £25m
Grealish £30m
Diawara £20m
Ndombele £55m
Wan-Bissaka £40m

Overall spend after player sales would be roughly £70m. Not really a huge amount based on a vital squad overhaul & vital players like Dembele, Alderweireld and Eriksen moving on.

Other options we should be looking at are Brandt, Havertz & Fekir who I believe has one year left to run on his current contract. I hope we keep an eye on that Ryan Gravenberch at Ajax as well. Seems like a class act.
Lyon want like £70-80m for Ndombele apparently.
 
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