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SugarRay

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Thought Curry was superb today. owens kept congratulating him for doing the right thing at the breakdown but he was right in the thick of it all game. May gets the plaudits but it was between Curry and Courtney Lawes for MOM in my opinion.
Yes, he’s been very impressive past two games.

The backrow has a nice balance to it.
Once Underhill and Shields are back/up to speed, then we have some nice options. Long term it’ll be 6.Underhill 7.Curry 8.Billy

Or maybe a double helping of Curry with big Billy
 

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Yeah you can't see it properly but the 7 swipes at his face just previously but doesn't catch him. I don't any thing will happen to either but it didn't get shown/mentioned during the live coverage.
 

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Stupid stuff from Sinckler but nothing in it really. I'm sure Eddie wasn't happy and I'm sure Sinckler knew it.
Yeah it was silly and should’ve probably been a yellow but certainly doesn’t deserve any retrospective action.

Luckily Owens tends to be a ref that will give players benefit of the doubt and keeps players on. No doubt Garces, Pyper, Piote give a yellow there. I think Wayne too probably.

Like you say though nothing really in it. I would’ve been more annoyed at the hair pulling than the whack but he just wanted to wind him up.
 

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I do think the TMO should’ve disallowed thingy’s try for the arm lock. But, again, not that it had any baring on the result.
Agree. It was pretty blatant. Should've been disallowed.

Also, perhaps rather controversially, I'm in two minds about the penalty try to be honest. I don't think it was a given that England would've scored that. Looked like Ashton overran it and got the ball caught between his feet a bit. Personally I think there's a 60/40 chance he wouldn't have picked it up cleanly to score. But as you say, it didn't have any baring on the result so it's all just academic now. I'm not 100% sure what the exact laws are, but for me it wasn't an absolute given that he would've scored, therefore I think a penalty + yellow card would've been a better decision than a penalty try. But like I say maybe the ref is bound by the laws in this instance, I don't konw.
 

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Should be a cracking game next up. Both teams two wins from two, England should be confident after dismantling the opponents in their first two performances and looking the best team so far, Wales feeling equally so with their winning streak and home advantage.

In the last few years, especially in wins in Cardiff, England have won the forward battle and just overwhelmed and had a platform they've eventually made count. They'll be expecting for more of the same, even more so how the first two games have gone. Wales though will be the toughest defence we have gone up against yet I feel and I think have more threat in getting the ball wide and getting around our high press rush defence.

As ever, a lot of it will be who turns up and executes their plays on the day.
 
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'O Zio

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Should be a cracking game next up. Both teams two wins from two, England should be confident after dismantling their first two performances and looking the best team so far, Wales feeling equally so with their winning streak and home advantage.

In the last few years, especially in wins in Cardiff, England have won the forward battle and just overwhelmed and had a platform they've eventually made count. They'll be expecting for more of the same, even more so how the first two games have gone. Wales though will be the toughest defence we have gone up against yet I feel and I think have more threat in getting the ball wide and getting around our high press rush defence.

As ever, a lot of it will be who turns up and executes their plays on the day.
Yeah can't wait for this game. Shame there's the bloody rest week in between. Don't want to jinx it but if England win in Cardiff the grand slam is theirs to lose. Only home games against Scotland and a woeful Italy side left so it would take a cock-up against Scotland to miss out
 

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Agree. It was pretty blatant. Should've been disallowed.

Also, perhaps rather controversially, I'm in two minds about the penalty try to be honest. I don't think it was a given that England would've scored that. Looked like Ashton overran it and got the ball caught between his feet a bit. Personally I think there's a 60/40 chance he wouldn't have picked it up cleanly to score. But as you say, it didn't have any baring on the result so it's all just academic now. I'm not 100% sure what the exact laws are, but for me it wasn't an absolute given that he would've scored, therefore I think a penalty + yellow card would've been a better decision than a penalty try. But like I say maybe the ref is bound by the laws in this instance, I don't konw.
I’ve only seen the highlights late last night but the commentator might have suggested that Owens had to give the yellow and pen when you can 100% identify the culprit. I don’t think the try has to be nailed on to score in order for the ref to do it but like I say it was late and wasn’t really listening. Funny how England fans aren’t complying about Owens today though.

The main thing is that none of these 3 or 4 incidents had any impact on the game unlike the horrendous TMO in our game last year. I don’t mind losing to England in a couple of weeks so long as it’s just a case of England outplay us. No one wants to see shitty decisions from the TMO that decide the outcome.
 

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I’ve got 3 concerns.

1. Form- it ain’t great.

2. Continuity - I understand the changes for Italy but I personally would’ve tried to play the team that’s going to play England. If for nothing else to get some continuity at the set piece but more just general all round play.

3. The fucking line out. All England have to do is contest every single line out and worst case you’ll win half of them.

We have to make zero mistakes, basically.
 

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Agree. It was pretty blatant. Should've been disallowed.

Also, perhaps rather controversially, I'm in two minds about the penalty try to be honest. I don't think it was a given that England would've scored that. Looked like Ashton overran it and got the ball caught between his feet a bit. Personally I think there's a 60/40 chance he wouldn't have picked it up cleanly to score. But as you say, it didn't have any baring on the result so it's all just academic now. I'm not 100% sure what the exact laws are, but for me it wasn't an absolute given that he would've scored, therefore I think a penalty + yellow card would've been a better decision than a penalty try. But like I say maybe the ref is bound by the laws in this instance, I don't konw.
There's no such thing as a 'nailed on' try. Check out the Freddie Burns incident. The penalty try was given on the probabiity of Ashton scoring and the French guy tackled him without the ball, thus making it impossible.

 
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