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LSUY

LSUY

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Dirty Ewok said:
The Cardinals apparently only started shopping Josh Rosen 5 minutes before the draft started (and only told Rosen he was being shopped moments before they drafted Murray) and were demanding a 1st round pick in return.

Now they are saying that since they have no leverage they are hoping to get a 2nd or 3rd round pick today for Rosen.

Hope my Pats pick him up and fleece the Cards.
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A 3rd round pick for Rosen would be an absolute steal.
 
Romulus

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still a shit load of talent left on the board. tons of good safety's and corner's
 
Dirty Ewok

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Romulus said:
still a shit load of talent left on the board. tons of good safety's and corner's
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Really shows how deep this draft was in defensive players and there are still some talented edge rushers left on the board. But look at the carry on effect of the d-linemen...

There were only 4 offensive linemen taken last night....Jawaan Taylor, Cody Ford, Dalton Risner, Greg Little, Elgton Jenkins are all available and all were projected in the first round.

Greedy Williams and Byron Murphy (most seem to consider the 2 best CBs in the draft) are still on the board, Rock Ya-Sin is still there.

the two WR from Ole Miss are still available
 
beats1

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yankspurs said:
Hahaha. Lol Giants. The Giants and Raiders are so perfectly incompetent. Love them:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
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I dont know how, anyone can defend the giants, Truly lost for words
felmani26 said:
I'm the first one to knock the Raiders and yes, I would have thought Josh Allen would be the preference over Ferrell but he's still a solid pick coupled with a great attitude that fits into the Gruden narrative.

Jacobs fills a massive need at RB and is the undoubted top back in this years draft along with Abram at Safety - all starters.

For me, i'm really pleased with how we've tackled the first round and i'm absolutely glad we didn't go for a QB.
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Its a decent pick just not a 4th choice pick
Dirty Ewok said:
No one will know until the guys hit the field.

That said, i saw one "draft expert" say that he didn't understand why anyone would draft Jones in any round let alone the first round. Others seemed to think he was a late first round pick at best and possibly third round pick in general.

Based on the "experts" it seems like the Daniel Jones pick was a classic overthink pick.

Murray was seen as something special which is why he was drafted #1.

Haskins kept being described as having a great arm, being able to make all throws, having a good understanding of how to work an offense, ability to move in the pocket. Pretty much a prototype QB but not nessisarily an overly exciting pick, just a guy who could do as advertised.

Jones seems to have been a guy that some people (the Giants) were high on and others very much cool on. Seems like he moves better than Haskins but not even as close to as well as Murray and has worse arm and judgement than Haskins.

The Giants went with the guy they liked (Jones) over the guy who seemed like he could step in immediately and do what was advertised (Haskins).

I think the biggest knock the Giants are going to get from the pick is that they spent the #6 pick on him. They could have drafted Josh Allen (who was regarded as one of the top edge rushers in the draft) or Ed Oliver or Christian Wilkins (top DTs) or Devin Bush (one of the best LBs in the draft) at the #6 slot and still would have likely had Jones on the board at #17 where they ended up taking Dexter Lawerence (who i like but don't think is as much of an impact DT as Wilkins or Oliver). They then traded up to draft Deandre Baker (who i also like) who lots of people felt was the #3 corner in the draft (with the #1 and #2 CBs still available).
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Rex Ryan absolutely loves the pick and mentioned a while ago giants would pick him

I just think Giants messed up big. You're drafting a player 6th and suggest he may not play for 3 years. WOW. He also happens to have a link with the Mannings's?

Apparently the other quarterback who was assessed as their 1A choice was undrafted. Its has been a major fuck up imo and also Eli hasn't been good enough for the last 2 years let alone to be allowed to stay for another 2.
 
Dirty Ewok

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beats1 said:
I dont know how, anyone can defend the giants, Truly lost for words

Its a decent pick just not a 4th choice pick

Rex Ryan absolutely loves the pick and mentioned a while ago giants would pick him

I just think Giants messed up big. You're drafting a player 6th and suggest he may not play for 3 years. WOW. He also happens to have a link with the Mannings's?

Apparently the other quarterback who was assessed as their 1A choice was undrafted. Its has been a major fuck up imo and also Eli hasn't been good enough for the last 2 years let alone to be allowed to stay for another 2.
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The connection between the Mannings and Daniel Jones is David Cutcliffe. Cutcliffe is the Duke HC but he was the QB coach at Tennessee when Peyton was there and then he was the hired as the HC at Ole Miss where he recruited and coached Eli Manning.

I would guess the undrafted QB would be Drew Lock?....Saw one scout said something to the effect of "He has a great arm, can make all the throws, makes great reads, moves well in the pocket...his only drawback is that a couple times a game he seems to forget what he is doing." Which....uh....not a great quality in an expensive QB?

Maybe the Giants just don't know how to scout QBs?
 
beats1

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Dirty Ewok said:
The connection between the Mannings and Daniel Jones is David Cutcliffe. Cutcliffe is the Duke HC but he was the QB coach at Tennessee when Peyton was there and then he was the hired as the HC at Ole Miss where he recruited and coached Eli Manning.

I would guess the undrafted QB would be Drew Lock?....Saw one scout said something to the effect of "He has a great arm, can make all the throws, makes great reads, moves well in the pocket...his only drawback is that a couple times a game he seems to forget what he is doing." Which....uh....not a great quality in an expensive QB?

Maybe the Giants just don't know how to scout QBs?
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Yeah, it was drew lock.

The worst one that I heard was that Daniel Jones, ranked in the bottom 3 for the most of the metrics the top 15 quarterbacks in this draft were ranked on. The giants belief is apparently because he didn't have a great OL, that has prepped him better for the NFL and one of the reasons he did poorly.

Or maybe they picked Jones because he is white:whistle:
 
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UncleBuck

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So, Christian Wade?
For the money involved do you guys who are into the NFL think you might be able to entice a few more RL/RU guys over the pond?
 
Houdini

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UncleBuck said:
So, Christian Wade?
For the money involved do you guys who are into the NFL think you might be able to entice a few more RL/RU guys over the pond?
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Quite a few go over and then....come back for one reason or another.
 
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