The managerial merry go round discussion

beats1

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And why did Derby sack McClaren as thought he was quite popular there having gone back? (he is a bit weird though).
For being too successful and having a mad man as an owner, Mel Morris whilst being a fan and imo english gets a pass from a lot of flack whereas foreign owners get chastised for doing the same thing like Watford's owners

When Steve took over derby, they were sitting 2 points above relegation, after playing a quarter of the season. He was simply expected to get derby to safety and build a team for the next season to challenge going up. He took a team that didnt do well at all under pearson and got 10 points from 11 points to winning 9 matches from the next 12 games.

Heading in to February they were in the playoff spots and had their first bad run losing 4 games and drawing 2 games during that period yet when he was very unlucky with injuries was given no money during both managing periods to spend but because of a dodgy late equaliser, derby needed to go on a winning run to close the gap between them and a playoff spot and then losing to Brighton was deemed the last straw and the chairman sacked him despite Steve doing better than expected.

As a result, the fans have become fed up, they arent keen on Rowett as the rest of the country and attendances for the first time have been going down. Also Rowett became the long serving manager under the current chairman earlier this season with a term that wasnt even a year at the time FFS.

Personally I rather have McLaren at derby right now over Rowett
 

Krule

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Yep....Big Sam gone...nice little earner for him...Marco Silva rumoured to be the desired replacement but ill feeling between the two clubs after Everton's last approach for him may mess things up.
 

Coyboy

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Yep....Big Sam gone...nice little earner for him...Marco Silva rumoured to be the desired replacement but ill feeling between the two clubs after Everton's last approach for him may mess things up.
What two clubs?
 

Marty

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Yep....Big Sam gone...nice little earner for him...Marco Silva rumoured to be the desired replacement but ill feeling between the two clubs after Everton's last approach for him may mess things up.
Silva isn't still at Watford, why should the conflict from last autumn matter at all?
 

Pellshek

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I'm not Portly Samuel's biggest fan, but he seems to have been treated very shabbily by Everton's owner. Getting them 8th from where they were was a really excellent job.

I guess that's not reason enough to keep him on if the club's plans have changed, but we'll soon have lost track of all the clubs wanting to "push on to the next level" and make CL. I guess we at Spurs shouldn't be too superior about such ambitions given how long we were shite, but there's only so much room.

That said, I went to look up Everton's league finishes over the last number of years, and I'd forgotten how well Moyes did with them...higher finishes on average than I'd remembered. (Moyes was 2002-2013):


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Shadydan

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Moyes and Allerdyce both gone a month after Pardew, what a time to be alive, no doubt we'll see them again when so lames like Cardiff are floundering in March.
 

Krule

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Silva isn't still at Watford, why should the conflict from last autumn matter at all?
Sky Sports News hinted this morning about something to do with his termination agreement with Watford.....I thought it a bit odd too. I can't see them agreeing a settlement that would block him from joining a particular club after he left....(n)(n) Unless he's on 'gardening leave' and cannot join anybody until a certain date ??....time will tell.
 

JimmyG2

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Allardyce reportedly made 9 million for six months work..
Nice work if you can get it.
Obscene amount of money for failure.
That's even more than Dan Levy
 

'O Zio

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Seems like Leicester are also in for him.

Is there something I am not seeing? Never felt he was anything special.
Did a very good job at Hull. I know they got relegated in the end but he got them playing really well and arguably it's just because they left it too late to appoint him that they went down. He was also doing brilliantly with Watford until the whole Everton thing came up and after that it was just an impossible situation to manage because he'd completely lost the dressing room etc.

Not necessarily saying he's anything special, he's only done it in 2 half-season spells in the PL, but I can certainly see why Everton wanted him in the first place. It may not work out long term but it's not that out of the blue.
 

'O Zio

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Allardyce reportedly made 9 million for six months work..
Nice work if you can get it.
Obscene amount of money for failure.
That's even more than Dan Levy
He didn't fail though, his job was to make sure they didn't get relegated, which would've cost the club a lot more than 9m.
 
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