The Kyle Walker-Peters Thread

[SpursD22]

Baldock definitely is better and kwp is barely anything atm

I’ve been having these king of discussions a lot recently, KWP doesn’t play much because he plays for one of the best clubs in the world, if he did leave he would be a good PL RB. Stop this nonsense, comparing him to a 26 year old Championship RB

 

[SpursD22]

Why does he need to leave permanently? I agree he needs matches to gain more experience but he'll get that when he goes on loan.

IMO it would be better for him, one of Trippier and Aurier will probably leave in the summer and we may buy a RB, if KWP goes out on loan he will only be lower than in the pecking order. He needs a fresh start

 

[Tottenhamboy85]

I’ve been having these king of discussions a lot recently, KWP doesn’t play much because he plays for one of the best clubs in the world, if he did leave he would be a good PL RB. Stop this nonsense, comparing him to a 26 year old Championship RB

But that 26 year old championship ( soon to be premier league ) RB is better than current KWP.

No one knows if kwp would be a good pl RB or anything as we haven’t seen enough of him to make that judgment.

If i was KWP I would be looking at going somewhere I would be pretty much guaranteed lots of game time regardless if it’s PL or Championship.

 

[Shadydan]

IMO it would be better for him, one of Trippier and Aurier will probably leave in the summer and we may buy a RB, if KWP goes out on loan he will only be lower than in the pecking order. He needs a fresh start

I think it would be better for him if he went out on loan and got some games so that he can come back as an improved player the following season. He's still a bit raw now and it's evident that he needs a run of games to progress.

We've deleoped him up to this stage thus far - selling him at this point without really giving him a run wouldn't make any sense.

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

With all due respect, if KWP isnt able to gain Poch's trust and break into the Spurs team and make the right back positon his own, considering how poor Trippier and Aurier (to a lesser extent) has been this season. It just confirms what many people here believe.

He is not good enough and will never be good enough.

 

[dtxspurs]

Letting him just be the backup next year seems to make so much sense, yet such a small chance of that actually happening.

 

[nailsy]

KWP desperately needs a loan to a Sheffield Utd or someone similar if they come up, it's obvious that he's not currently in Poch's plans which is a shame.

Loan move to Palace when we sign Wan Bissaka?

I know it's never going to happen.....

With all due respect, if KWP isnt able to gain Poch's trust and break into the Spurs team and make the right back positon his own, considering how poor Trippier and Aurier (to a lesser extent) has been this season. It just confirms what many people here believe.

He is not good enough and will never be good enough.

Didn't Poch say that he would be a very important player for us in the future a few months ago? Seems odd that he'd say that if he didn't rate him.

 

[Shadydan]

With all due respect, if KWP isnt able to gain Poch's trust and break into the Spurs team and make the right back positon his own, considering how poor Trippier and Aurier (to a lesser extent) has been this season. It just confirms what many people here believe.

He is not good enough and will never be good enough.

We'd be actively trying to sell him if he wasn't good enough or we would have farmed him out on loan like Josh.

 

[Khilari]

KWP is highly rated by the Spurs hierarchy, whereas Onomah is not. KWP reps been keen for a loan for him since last summer but MP has insisted he stay.

That could be potential/lack of cover/both (most likely). People should remember that unless there’s someone available and significantly better it seems unlikely we’ll sell KWP who has done well when called upon.

Kyle Walker wasn’t the best RB in England for a considerable amount of time whilst at Spurs but, we persevered with him and he developed. Aurier hasn’t improved us but provided an alternative to Trippier. If Pochettino sees potential in KWP, I’d rather we bring him on more in the way Liverpool have done to Alexander-Arnold than gamble on another player unless they are a level above what we already have.

 

[DCSPUR]

KWP is highly rated by the Spurs hierarchy, whereas Onomah is not. KWP reps been keen for a loan for him since last summer but MP has insisted he stay.

That could be potential/lack of cover/both (most likely). People should remember that unless there’s someone available and significantly better it seems unlikely we’ll sell KWP who has done well when called upon.

Kyle Walker wasn’t the best RB in England for a considerable amount of time whilst at Spurs but, we persevered with him and he developed. Aurier hasn’t improved us but provided an alternative to Trippier. If Pochettino sees potential in KWP, I’d rather we bring him on more in the way Liverpool have done to Alexander-Arnold than gamble on another player unless they are a level above what we already have.

I'd like to see Trippier and Aurier out this summer and AWB in.
AWB would be first choice, KWP could really push to be 2nd choice and Foyth as cover for both

 

[degoose]

I'd like to see Trippier and Aurier out this summer and AWB in.
AWB would be first choice, KWP could really push to be 2nd choice and Foyth as cover for both

what is AWB like at actually attacking, i see palace defending about 70 percent of every match?

That is a genuine question

 

[coys200]

If Foyth starts RB tomorrow which after Pochettino comments today I suspect he might. KWP is pretty much done short term. Hopefully he goes on loan somewhere decent and excels.

 

[beats1]

I think it would be better for him if he went out on loan and got some games so that he can come back as an improved player the following season. He's still a bit raw now and it's evident that he needs a run of games to progress.

We've deleoped him up to this stage thus far - selling him at this point without really giving him a run wouldn't make any sense.

I sorry but we haven't developed him at all for the past 2 years.

Literally has been wasting his time on the bench never playing

Genuine question, Can you give me 2-3 examples of a player making improvements to their game without actually playing games at any level?

KWP this season played 615mins
KWP last season played 445mins

So in 2 years he played just under 12 games. He clearly would have been served playing on loan

Before we had a lot of players come through because we were giving chances to players from the academy. Its no coincedent that I don't think we aren't a top destination for youth players. Whereas now we are seeing other teams give chances whilst we have gone back to the british mentality if they are good enough they will make it.

I will also mention, that the idea of him training against the best player will develop him further isn't exactly a strong one considering that we used to loan players and have them train with their loan team Wednesday to Friday whilst spending Monday and Tuesday with us training with the first team or development squad.

 

[TheHoddleWaddle]

Herein lies the problem of youth development. Not just at spurs, but all over. Coaches generally dont give their younger players time on the field over senior players.

I understand not starting them. However, there have been, particularly in kwp's case, plenty of opportunities he could have come on for 20/30 meaningful minutes when we have had a comfortable lead. Over the season that's a lot of learning.

In current football climate, where new players, even average ones are multimillions, it makes sense for longevity.

 

[Yiddo100]

If I was him I’d be ringing my agent and getting me out of there

 

[SpursD22]

Feel bad for him but at the same time it’s also his fault a bit because he should’ve at least pushed for a loan move. He needs to go this summer for his own good

 

[George94]

Wouldn't be surprised if he's sold in the summer

 

[beats1]

KWP is highly rated by the Spurs hierarchy, whereas Onomah is not. KWP reps been keen for a loan for him since last summer but MP has insisted he stay.

That could be potential/lack of cover/both (most likely). People should remember that unless there’s someone available and significantly better it seems unlikely we’ll sell KWP who has done well when called upon.

Kyle Walker wasn’t the best RB in England for a considerable amount of time whilst at Spurs but, we persevered with him and he developed. Aurier hasn’t improved us but provided an alternative to Trippier. If Pochettino sees potential in KWP, I’d rather we bring him on more in the way Liverpool have done to Alexander-Arnold than gamble on another player unless they are a level above what we already have.

Onomah is highly rated by the spurs hierarchy more than KWP but that doesnt necessarily mean Poch highly rates him

TBH our academy isn't a good place to be in for youth players.

Also the RB problem shows our huge lack of forwards planning and no transfer strategy.

We have had the following RB's under Pochettino:
Walker
Naughton
Fredericks
Trippier
Aurier
Walker-Peters
Yedlin

As well as having Dier and Foyth play quite a few games at RB and yet we are possibly looking to add more this season

My issue with KWP, is that he is an attacking RB that rather than be given a free role to attack, is constantly criticised for his defending yet hasn't been allowed to improve on that

 

[Yiddo100]

How tall is he compared to other full backs, are there any smaller/as small as him ?

 

[SpursD22]

Should’ve started today, Poch needs to be questioned to why KWP barely plays and why a CB plays RB instead of him