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'O Zio

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And as horrible as that is and I sympathise. Doesn’t give him an excuse to take cocaine. A friend of mine. Her daughter died last May, couple weeks shy of her first birthday. She hasn’t turned to cocaine. I know people cope differently, but he knew full well what he was doing. Be sympathetic on the loss of his child. Not because he took cocaine because of losing his child. Should’ve still been banned.

By all accounts it was a one-off thing completely out of character while he was in a complete whirlwind of emotions. Given that it doesn't in any way serve as performance enhancing etc. I think the FA for once made a sensible decision on this one. If he was in the state he was understandably in at the time already, can you imagine what would've happened if he'd also lost his career over it? Some perspective is needed IMO.
 

Yid_Summers

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But you've already acknowledged that people cope differently so why a should it be any different for him?

And coke is hardly a PED anyway so it's not as if he was using it to gain an advantage over anyone, the guy lost his kid so you'd think that some sympathy would have been shown and thankfully it was.

Your opinion on this is really wierd.

Doesn’t matter if it isn’t a PED. Mutu got banned for quite some time. And sacked. Ferdinand got banned for 9 months for just missing a test. Nasri got banned for 18 months for using what he did. Not that I know much on that drug. I sympathise with the circumstances, but stop condoning his use of an illegal substance. One time or however many. He knew what he was doing, end of story. And should’ve been rightfully banned.

That’s my opinion on it. If you don’t like it, cool. Not too fussed.
 

Yid_Summers

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By all accounts it was a one-off thing completely out of character while he was in a complete whirlwind of emotions. Given that it doesn't in any way serve as performance enhancing etc. I think the FA for once made a sensible decision on this one. If he was in the state he was understandably in at the time already, can you imagine what would've happened if he'd also lost his career over it? Some perspective is needed IMO.

Like I’ve just stated. And he should’ve been banned. Plenty have comeback and continued their careers.
 

'O Zio

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Like I’ve just stated. And he should’ve been banned. Plenty have comeback and continued their careers.

Fair enough. Personally I think these sort of things need to be dealt with using a bit of common sense and compassion but I guess we'll have to just agree to disagree on this one.
 

Shadydan

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Doesn’t matter if it isn’t a PED. Mutu got banned for quite some time. And sacked. Ferdinand got banned for 9 months for just missing a test. Nasri got banned for 18 months for using what he did. Not that I know much on that drug. I sympathise with the circumstances, but stop condoning his use of an illegal substance. One time or however many. He knew what he was doing, end of story. And should’ve been rightfully banned.

That’s my opinion on it. If you don’t like it, cool. Not too fussed.

Mutu, Nasri and Ferdinand weren't going through family tragedies though so it's not quite the same thing...

So I'm condoning the use of a legal substance am I, okay then :D I'm just open to the idea that maybe he was going through a rough time and turned to something that could have given him some form of escapism. If you're willing to accept that people have different ways of coping then you should really be opened minded and respect that.
 

Dougal

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Saoirse

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Hope our five lions do well as ever!

Also seen that for the first time since New Wembley opened, England are going to play a competitive home game elsewhere. Kosovo in September with a venue yet to be confirmed.
 
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