The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 24th January 2019

[OldBoy68]

Hey, I offered £20 and a fluid sample to the Grealish fund.

If you did that for Grealish, then I shudder at what you did to Rabiot's Mum
It's your fault plain and simple.

 

[King of the Lane]

Who the fuck signed Werner and Rabiot on Fifa 19..come on own up! You all ruined our chances with them. You never learn!

Whats that? I signed them too? ...shut up..look over there... is that Doumbia in the car park?

 

[Mouse!]

This thread has a motto and its this: Ah well (sigh)

If you haven't used it yet, feel free to fill your boots when the window has closed.

Obvious cryptic is obvious. We’re signing Thiaga Motto.

 

[C0YS]

Is it? If you were a fan of another Premier League team and you were getting Janssen for £10m, would you be happy with it? Or would you suggest that it'd be better to take a punt on a player who hadn't already tried and failed to make an impact at this level?

Ten Million won't even get a half decent championship striker in this market. It's peanuts for the PL right now. Ultimately though the bigger issue is Janssen hasn't proven his fitness. I don't know why we would be scared of a loan, if he does alright it will up his value. N'koudou on the other hand is clearly a half decent player and there should ready be a bigger market for him.

 

[parj]

What do you see yourself as?

You pay to receive an experience provided by a company. Customers are all any of us are now.

That shit stadium with the best game experience at pitch side is a sign they just want to take your money and run.

 

[DCSPUR]

Ten Million won't even get a half decent championship striker in this market. It's peanuts for the PL right now. Ultimately though the bigger issue is Janssen hasn't proven his fitness. I don't know why we would be scared of a loan, if he does alright it will up his value. N'koudou on the other hand is clearly a half decent player and there should ready be a bigger market for him.

I'm puzzled as well. Sounded from the ITK (herc update) that teams were reluctant to make perm offers for some of our outs but why wouldn't lower prem teams want to snaffle Janssen and GKN? Seems odd, they could provide some on field assistance and certainly could be moved on for a small profit in a year or two.

 

[Hercules]

Worth repeating again, and again! There is money. We can speculate to our hearts content. It is not about we like it or not, on how much. It is, as it is! Club desperate to add couple players ‘within our budget’. That may well be a well spun PR-Stunt, problem is Poch not liking what has been offered. And I personally believe they would improve us. Trix made a perfect comment ‘Poch is being AVB-esque’ in his choices (unrealistic for many reasons).

He is therefore sticking rather than twisting. Something certainly have to give. He pushed very hard for VJ, that one was all his choice, I said at the time it was a very bad choice, and cited the reasons. I think the scouting we have put forward excellent recommendations, but he just is not having it at present.

He personally spoke again to two players, who we know about already. But! They are not realistic signings. I do not agree on how DL dithers over transfers. But this one is not down to him. Whatever the budget is, that is what the budget is. This is why I commented a while back that there is interesting times ahead both for club and management.

 

[DCSPUR]

Worth repeating again, and again! There is money. We can speculate to our hearts content. It is not about we like it or not, on how much. It is, as it is! Club desperate to add couple players ‘within our budget’. That may well be a well spun PR-Stunt, problem is Poch not liking what has been offered. And I personally believe they would improve us. Trix made a perfect comment ‘Poch is being AVB-esque’ in his choices (unrealistic for many reasons).

He is therefore sticking rather than twisting. Something certainly have to give. He pushed very hard for VJ, that one was all his choice, I said at the time it was a very bad choice, and cited the reasons. I think the scouting we have put forward excellent recommendations, but he just is not having it at present.

He personally spoke again to two players, who we know about already. But! They are not realistic signings. I do not agree on how DL dithers over transfers. But this one is not down to him. Whatever the budget is, that is what the budget is. This is why I commented a while back that there is interesting times ahead both for club and management.

if poch is backed that is good enough for me

 

[Darth Vega]

Worth repeating again, and again! There is money. We can speculate to our hearts content. It is not about we like it or not, on how much. It is, as it is! Club desperate to add couple players ‘within our budget’. That may well be a well spun PR-Stunt, problem is Poch not liking what has been offered. And I personally believe they would improve us. Trix made a perfect comment ‘Poch is being AVB-esque’ in his choices (unrealistic for many reasons).

He is therefore sticking rather than twisting. Something certainly have to give. He pushed very hard for VJ, that one was all his choice, I said at the time it was a very bad choice, and cited the reasons. I think the scouting we have put forward excellent recommendations, but he just is not having it at present.

He personally spoke again to two players, who we know about already. But! They are not realistic signings. I do not agree on how DL dithers over transfers. But this one is not down to him. Whatever the budget is, that is what the budget is. This is why I commented a while back that there is interesting times ahead both for club and management.

I love Poch, but I think he's wrong on this. Obviously it's difficult to say without knowing every target on the table, but if he wants Isco/Rabiot players or nothing else, we will sign pretty much nobody for many transfer windows to come.

 

[TheAmerican]

Worth repeating again, and again! There is money. We can speculate to our hearts content. It is not about we like it or not, on how much. It is, as it is! Club desperate to add couple players ‘within our budget’. That may well be a well spun PR-Stunt, problem is Poch not liking what has been offered. And I personally believe they would improve us. Trix made a perfect comment ‘Poch is being AVB-esque’ in his choices (unrealistic for many reasons).

He is therefore sticking rather than twisting. Something certainly have to give. He pushed very hard for VJ, that one was all his choice, I said at the time it was a very bad choice, and cited the reasons. I think the scouting we have put forward excellent recommendations, but he just is not having it at present.

He personally spoke again to two players, who we know about already. But! They are not realistic signings. I do not agree on how DL dithers over transfers. But this one is not down to him. Whatever the budget is, that is what the budget is. This is why I commented a while back that there is interesting times ahead both for club and management.

Most realistic outcome I see from this:

Levy doesn’t cave and we get no one. We struggle to finish the season well due to a lack of depth. Poch’s team criticizes Levy over his not being backed. He goes to United. The media side with Poch as Levy has a history of transfer failures. The club looks like shit.

 

[LukaKranjcar]

Something has to give.

 

[robertgoulet]

Worth repeating again, and again! There is money. We can speculate to our hearts content. It is not about we like it or not, on how much. It is, as it is! Club desperate to add couple players ‘within our budget’. That may well be a well spun PR-Stunt, problem is Poch not liking what has been offered. And I personally believe they would improve us. Trix made a perfect comment ‘Poch is being AVB-esque’ in his choices (unrealistic for many reasons).

He is therefore sticking rather than twisting. Something certainly have to give. He pushed very hard for VJ, that one was all his choice, I said at the time it was a very bad choice, and cited the reasons. I think the scouting we have put forward excellent recommendations, but he just is not having it at present.

He personally spoke again to two players, who we know about already. But! They are not realistic signings. I do not agree on how DL dithers over transfers. But this one is not down to him. Whatever the budget is, that is what the budget is. This is why I commented a while back that there is interesting times ahead both for club and management.

So it sounds like our 4-man transfer team really comes down to: the other 3 can recommend players, but Poch has final say on who we bring in. Not necessarily a majority vote to bring someone in (if 3 say yes and Poch says no it's still a no).

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Most realistic outcome I see from this:

Levy doesn’t cave and we get no one. We struggle to finish the season well due to a lack of depth. Poch’s team criticizes Levy over his not being backed. He goes to United. The media side with Poch as Levy has a history of transfer failures. The club looks like shit.

Levy doesn't cave to what?

 

[Jaddas]

Thanks Herc for the information.

Doesn’t look like we’re getting anyone in then. Hopefully we have enough to get through to summer and Poch then lowers the bar on incomings.

Not sure why he’s being so stubborn, considering he wanted Barkley and Grealish recently. Must’ve been offered better than them by our scouts.

A bit worried about how things pan out for the long term as he’s the best manager we’ve had for donkeys years.

 

[Hakkz]

So Janssen is the embodiment of Poch's poor judgement, who he has now put in a freezer and thrown away the key to.

 

[dirtyh]

it's not just about improving the first eleven though, it's a squad game. Outside of the areas we all can clearly see we need bodies, it's even clearer that we need more quality in depth, not just depth, especially when we get injuries like we currently do. And it won't take messi or ronaldo to improve that.

thanks herc as always...........

(sigh)

 

[wrd]

If we are saying that there is money but not for the signings Poch wants then I'd argue unless he's asking for somebody over 100 million then he isn't being backed. I know people will disagree with that but if Poch is saying he wants something and there's not money for what he wants but there is for what he doesn't want then that's him not being backed in my eyes.

 

[cjbyid]

Something's gotta give! So frustrating as always....

 

[JayB]

So it sounds like our 4-man transfer team really comes down to: the other 3 can recommend players, but Poch has final say on who we bring in. Not necessarily a majority vote to bring someone in (if 3 say yes and Poch says no it's still a no).

You've forgotten the final step: Poch has the final say on who he wants, then Levy says they're far too expensive.

 

[TheAmerican]

Levy doesn't cave to what?

Getting the unrealistic players that Poch wants, just as he did with AVB.