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Sherwood talks himself up using Premier League win ratio

jolsnogross

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He might as well have a go at talking himself up because nobody else will. I agree with the article that a 17 game sample is a little thin, but he's not wrong.

Read the full article at The Guardian

I'm assuming Sherwood won't be given the reigns after this May. I don't think the general feeling of Spurs fans toward Sherwood is as negative as it is on here. The pool of managerial talent available was deep when we backed the wrong horse in AVB; it seems a bit thin now. And though it is a good job, I'm not sure an Ancellotti or LVG would fancy hitching their immediate future to Levy.
 

Barmy_in_Palmy

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I'd have had more respect for him if he'd come out and said this after his first game.

"I have 100% victories in all my game, I am the greatest manager this club has ever had."

Now it just seems to late.
 

Barmy_in_Palmy

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He might as well have a go at talking himself up because nobody else will. I agree with the article that a 17 game sample is a little thin, but he's not wrong.
A 17 game sample not only means that he is wrong but that he is wrong because 17 games makes him irrelevant.
 

bigspurs

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He just keeps coming across as arrogant to me. I don't care about his win ratio, or his self confessed noble crusade to force us to look at the youth players. To me he's just a rookie with a big mouth. He's learning on the job and has made some bizarre/moronic tactical decisions along the way. I think he's had more luck than judgment basically! Levy's biggest mistake was to give him an 18 month contact, when he should have just given him 6, making Derwood believe that he had a chance at being manager next season. Bye, bye Dim. And please shut your stupid mouth on the way out!
 

avonspurs

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Oh my. He does love talking himself up, does our Tim. I suppose he has no option but, with only a few games left, to make every media opportunity a 'why I should keep the job' special.

You have to wonder why he wants the job so much - What with him being the most successful manager we've ever ever ever ever had, he should be aiming for something higher. Maybe Liverpool manager so he can manage their squad full of homegrown talent instead of our totally brought in squad. And why we're at it we should never bother having the likes of Berbatov or Modric again - you know, those 'flash in the pan', gone in a few years players - we should have base our squad around a less skilful, less influential player thats homegrown purely because we brought them through the youth team.

Yeah, I'm warming to the guy.
 
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Kiedis

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Well, someone's got to talk him up, and it certainly isn't going to be anyone else than himself.
 

fedupyid

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The man is the luckiest manager in the league but to show his real ability you have to look at his must win games and the rest. Tim has only won 1 cup match out of 6. Tim has also only won 2 out of the 6 of the games in the league against the other teams competing for the champions league. So Tims important win percentage is 25 %.

I personally would have never employed him because what does employing him and waiting half a season to employ you next real manager tell your players. In a sport where your peak is about 5 years that is 20% of a player who is in their prime of their career wasted because you wrote off the whole season. Levy has put no forethought into the club recently he needs to step down and hand over the reigns to someone who will actually plan.

Spurs need to ignore the managers who have won trophies and have incredible records because they will not come. The next Spurs manager needs to be able to coach the players and get them to improve. Spurs also need to build whoever we bring in a proper back room staff of the best coaches that we can get, no more appointing ex-players and who the manager wants. The final thing is we need to replace our medical team because we keep losing the ones who are capable and not replacing them.
 

diamondlight

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A 17 game sample not only means that he is wrong but that he is wrong because 17 games makes him irrelevant.

If 17 games isn't enough then how about doubling it - 34, which would be almost a whole season. With Sherwood's win record over a whole season, we'd almost certainly be in the champions league.

Maybe we should give him a whole season, before we make a fair judgment? He has obviously passed the half a season test.*

*Anyone tempted to respond by criticizing Sherwood's personality or the way he comes across in interviews, why not take a long, hard look at your personality first.
 

avonspurs

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Anyone else notice the irony of the 'if Kane doesn't score, fans call for Soldado' and 'young players need to have the chance to be poor, then a bit better' quotes with his Townsend 'isnt playing because Eriksen and Lennon are better than him at the moment' statements? Does the man not realise when he's being contradictory?

And, surprisingly, a lot of fans have been calling for Townsend (a home grown player) to be given a chance instead of Lennon (a brought in player) but, hey, what do we know? I mean, he is the best manager ever!
 

diamondlight

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Anyone else notice the irony of the 'if Kane doesn't score, fans call for Soldado' and 'young players need to have the chance to be poor, then a bit better' quotes with his Townsend 'isnt playing because Eriksen and Lennon are better than him at the moment' statements? Does the man not realise when he's being contradictory?

And, surprisingly, a lot of fans have been calling for Townsend (a home grown player) to be given a chance instead of Lennon (a brought in player) but, hey, what do we know? I mean, he is the best manager ever!

It's not a contradiction. You can be poor, but still not as poor as another player.
 

avonspurs

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It's not a contradiction. You can be poor, but still not as poor as another player.

Of course it is - he argues for young players to be given a chance to be poor but wont play Townsend at the moment because he's not playing well. How is that not contradictory?
 

bigspurs

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Anyone tempted to respond by criticizing Sherwood's personality or the way he comes across in interviews, why not take a long, hard look at your personality first.

What? Maybe you need to take a look at your cretinous personality instead. You might find an annoying, self righteous prick in there somewhere ;)
 

guiltyparty

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"If the season was to end tomorrow the chairman wouldn't be too happy because we're fifth. The final league position has to meet the expectations of the club otherwise it's 'Goodbye Charlie'. The club need to finish in fourth place" - Tim Sherwood, 20 January 2014

"It was never the brief when I came into the club that we had to finish in fourth place" - Tim Sherwood, 26 April 2014

He certainly contradicts himself like Redknapp. Maybe he can take us to the Champions League like Hazza too? I could be converted…
 

guiltyparty

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If 17 games isn't enough then how about doubling it - 34, which would be almost a whole season. With Sherwood's win record over a whole season, we'd almost certainly be in the champions league.

Maybe we should give him a whole season, before we make a fair judgment? He has obviously passed the half a season test.*

*Anyone tempted to respond by criticizing Sherwood's personality or the way he comes across in interviews, why not take a long, hard look at your personality first.

I have a dazzling personality and I always say the right things

ALWAYS
 

avonspurs

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"If the season was to end tomorrow the chairman wouldn't be too happy because we're fifth. The final league position has to meet the expectations of the club otherwise it's 'Goodbye Charlie'. The club need to finish in fourth place" - Tim Sherwood, 20 January 2014

"It was never the brief when I came into the club that we had to finish in fourth place" - Tim Sherwood, 26 April 2014

He certainly contradicts himself like Redknapp. Maybe he can take us to the Champions League like Hazza too? I could be converted…

don't forget the 'squad is good enough' during the transfer window compared with 'players are much of a muchness' now. :)
 

OnTheUp

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If 17 games isn't enough then how about doubling it - 34, which would be almost a whole season. With Sherwood's win record over a whole season, we'd almost certainly be in the champions league.

Maybe we should give him a whole season, before we make a fair judgment? He has obviously passed the half a season test.*

*Anyone tempted to respond by criticizing Sherwood's personality or the way he comes across in interviews, why not take a long, hard look at your personality first.

Ha ha, the best post I've seen on Spurscommunity for a long time. You're spot on mate!
 
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