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MOTM

  • Lloris

    Votes: 5 2.4%
  • Aurier

    Votes: 1 0.5%
  • Foyth

    Votes: 1 0.5%
  • Verts

    Votes: 2 1.0%
  • Davies

    Votes: 2 1.0%
  • Dier

    Votes: 12 5.8%
  • Sissoko

    Votes: 7 3.4%
  • Dele

    Votes: 13 6.3%
  • Eriksen

    Votes: 11 5.3%
  • Son

    Votes: 57 27.4%
  • Kane

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Moura

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Rose

    Votes: 1 0.5%
  • Winks

    Votes: 1 0.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 7 3.4%
  • None deserved

    Votes: 88 42.3%

  • Total voters
    208

onthetwo

Well-Known Member
May 19, 2006
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They have two decent strikers but are an otherwise unremarkable team IMO....and they stuffed us.
Hope the players have a sense for how that feels for me to type/write.........
 

BringBack_leGin

Well-Known Member
Jul 28, 2004
27,719
54,929
This time last week we were praising Foyth and Aurier for a cracking display against Chelsea, lauding our front 4 for playing slick, stylish, dominant football, and saying Sissoko was undroppable with Dier back to his best. Unless a simple switch of Belgian centre backs is enough to completely destroy that (which would mean that we aren’t anywhere near as good as we seem to think), then maybe we just need to accept that on the day Arsenal were better than us, just like a week ago we were better than Chelsea.

What I will say is that our manager’s failure to react, if not to the poor first half display, then to the equaliser early in the second half, is inexcusable and the reason why he not cut out for a ‘top’ job. He’s the right level for us, we’re the right level for him.

Individually, little to say beyond the obvious.

Lloris didn’t deserve to concede four, and wasn’t at fault (even for their third, which took a wicked deflection).

Aurier and Davies came out in the second half as if they were chasing the game, no thought for allowing arsenal to do the work and pick them off, leaving our centre backs horrible exposed.

Vertonghen was rash and nervy from start to almost finish, while Foyth looked every bit a player with only three previous starts in this league and ultimately made the mistake which cost us the game.

Dier at least fought, he scored a good headed goal, he defended and blocked well too.

Sissoko was up and down quite well but his execution was lacking in key moments.

Eriksen saw a lot of the ball and tried to prove away but he was often crowded out.

Dele overall held the ball okay and kept the arsenal defence guessing but he didn’t create anything of note.

Son was our biggest threat, winning both the free kick and penalty from which we scored and really keeping the arsenal defence guessing. Subbing him off was ridiculous.

Kane did a good impression of Andy Booth, a well taken penalty and a good free kick offering little redemption.

Winks, Lucas and Rose should all pool together to buy Pochettino a present for his generosity in introducing them to a game already well lost.
 

olliec

Well-Known Member
Jun 20, 2012
3,574
11,763
This time last week we were praising Foyth and Aurier for a cracking display against Chelsea, lauding our front 4 for playing slick, stylish, dominant football, and saying Sissoko was undroppable with Dier back to his best. Unless a simple switch of Belgian centre backs is enough to completely destroy that (which would mean that we aren’t anywhere near as good as we seem to think), then maybe we just need to accept that on the day Arsenal were better than us, just like a week ago we were better than Chelsea.

What I will say is that our manager’s failure to react, if not to the poor first half display, then to the equaliser early in the second half, is inexcusable and the reason why he not cut out for a ‘top’ job. He’s the right level for us, we’re the right level for him.

Individually, little to say beyond the obvious.

Lloris didn’t deserve to concede four, and wasn’t at fault (even for their third, which took a wicked deflection).

Aurier and Davies came out in the second half as if they were chasing the game, no thought for allowing arsenal to do the work and pick them off, leaving our centre backs horrible exposed.

Vertonghen was rash and nervy from start to almost finish, while Foyth looked every bit a player with only three previous starts in this league and ultimately made the mistake which cost us the game.

Dier at least fought, he scored a good headed goal, he defended and blocked well too.

Sissoko was up and down quite well but his execution was lacking in key moments.

Eriksen saw a lot of the ball and tried to prove away but he was often crowded out.

Dele overall held the ball okay and kept the arsenal defence guessing but he didn’t create anything of note.

Son was our biggest threat, winning both the free kick and penalty from which we scored and really keeping the arsenal defence guessing. Subbing him off was ridiculous.

Kane did a good impression of Andy Booth, a well taken penalty and a good free kick offering little redemption.

Winks, Lucas and Rose should all pool together to buy Pochettino a present for his generosity in introducing them to a game already well lost.
Actually I wasn’t praising Foyth against Chelsea and it was a clear penalty on Hazard. When I saw the starting lineup And saw Foyth I felt a bit nervous. I still think he is not ready for games of this caliber. He is still very young and has a lot to learn
 

BringBack_leGin

Well-Known Member
Jul 28, 2004
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54,929
Actually I wasn’t praising Foyth against Chelsea and it was a clear penalty on Hazard. When I saw the starting lineup And saw Foyth I felt a bit nervous. I still think he is not ready for games of this caliber. He is still very young and has a lot to learn
Clearly I was referring to a collecting, overriding WE, rather than just you ollie;)
 

walton

Well-Known Member
Feb 28, 2006
3,162
4,963
Aurier was unforgivably bad. KWP must be scratching his head if he can't get a start or at least a sub appearance with that dross as competition. Fuming with how shit he was today.
 

Gareth88

Well-Known Member
Sep 19, 2017
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6,727
Why start Foyth in this game, not saying it would have completely changed the game but why start him when Toby is fit and had a good game against Inter. Why did Rose not start? We need a Defensive midfielder and another option for Kane, yes he scored and his a great player but he looked knackered in the second half. Moura game on far to late, same with Winks. We looked in the second half like we did no homework on Arsenal, they turn in up the second half of every game, we played right into their hands, looked like we had settled with the draw when we went 2-1. Poor poor performance. Need to make a lot of signings in my opinion at least 2 defensive midfielders and another striker.
 

Marty

Audere est farce
Mar 10, 2005
39,885
62,544
They have two decent strikers but are an otherwise unremarkable team IMO....and they stuffed us.
Hope the players have a sense for how that feels for me to type/write.........
Harsh on Torreira who was absolutely brilliant for them today. As much as it pains me to say it.
 

Mornstar

Well-Known Member
Jun 2, 2005
4,897
1,589
2nd half Tony was badly needed.

Lloris 6 not great but not really at fault for the 4 goals

Aurier 4 poor, positioning is just terrible and always caught on the counter, thankfully Sissoko is like a 2nd RB so covered for him
Foyth 5 not terrible but poor mistake for their 3rd goal
Verts 6 not his usual solid self, not helped by those around him
Davies 5 offered very little

Dier 6 good aside for big mistake for their 4th
Sissoko 8 Solid comfortable on the ball and great runs MOTM

Alli 7 commanding performance up until 60mins winning fouls
Eriksen 7 good assist
Son 7 good threat in 1st half but anonymous in the 2nd

Kane 7 good hold up play and took pen well

Poch 5 should have changed it at 2-2. Our defence needed help and Tony was sitting on the bench. Madness. If not, Lucas should have been bought on much sooner
I'm sorry but the idea that Toni Jimenez, our goalkeeping coach, should've come off the bench and help out the defence is preposterous
 

Lumiere

Well-Known Member
Aug 9, 2017
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4,354
One thing is obvious, we've got to get another midfielder.

I kept reading in the summer about how everyone was too expensive and we couldn't afford the players that would improve us - how much did Arsenal get Torreira for again?
 

jamesc0le

SISS:LOKO:plays/thinks/eats chicken like sissoko!
Jun 17, 2008
4,974
944
Dembele not missed before today. Today sorely missed. n lamela. n kwp. Should have moved foyth into midfield at ht n brought on toby. Should have sat deeper at times and broke more. bad tactics bad application of tactics bad game management. Bad day at the office but we needed that game. We can learn from it.
 

dtxspurs

Welcome to the Good Life
Dec 28, 2017
11,234
46,574
One thing is obvious, we've got to get another midfielder.

I kept reading in the summer about how everyone was too expensive and we couldn't afford the players that would improve us - how much did Arsenal get Torreira for again?
See my post directly above yours...
 

yankspurs

Enic Out
Aug 22, 2013
41,883
71,187
One thing is obvious, we've got to get another midfielder.

I kept reading in the summer about how everyone was too expensive and we couldn't afford the players that would improve us - how much did Arsenal get Torreira for again?
Agreed but we wont be signing anyone.
 

The Apprentice

Charles Big Potatoes
Mar 10, 2005
11,143
15,618
Back 4 was abysmal but that’s all on Poch. Starting Foyth was an awful decision. And he had a game where all the warning signs came to a head. He’s not ready for this level. Wayyyyyy out of his depth. Needs a loan to a lower table side. No coincidence both players on either side of him were awful today. He was so bad it caused Dier to have to cover 3 positions at once. Sissoko reverted back to his usual, useless self. Kane was poor. Awful all around.

Foyth seemed accustomed to this level when he won us the game at Palace with a MOTM performance, backed up with a MOTM performance for Argentina on debut.
 
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