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Tucker

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Well the price tag for one tells you all you need to know really, would you not say that he's failed to live up to expectations and the jury is still out on the other two?

Janssen and Nkoudo weren't exactly cheap either. Especially considering how raw they've shown to be.

I'd say they've all failed to live up to expectations.
 

Shadydan

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Janssen and Nkoudo weren't exactly cheap either. Especially considering how raw they've shown to be.

I'd say they've all failed to live up to expectations.

They weren't anywhere near £30m though were they? :D

Proof will be in the pudding this summer to see who's still here come September and who is sold.
 

EJWTartanSpur

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Depends how you define success, but I'd put Wimmer in the success column. If it weren't for having two of the best CB's in the country and former team mates at Ajax playing ahead of him I think he'd be a regular now. Worst case scenario is that he is sold for a very tidy profit. Can't see a negative in that situation at all.
 
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Lou3000

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I'm of the opinion that the only transfer flop that falls squarely on Poch is Sissoko.

It's questionable how much influence he had on the transfers of Stambouli and Fazio. Though the same could be said for Dele and Dier as they were clearly on our radar before Poch arrived.

As for the other flops that didn't pan out, I think we made money on Yedlin, N'Jie was gone so quick it didn't matter, and the jury is out for me on N'Koudou and Janssen.

Wimmer is a huge success for me. Does exactly what we ask of him, which is to play backup to the best CB pairing in the prem. Not an easy task.
 

Gaz_Gammon

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60 million, or as near as on Sissoko, GKN and Janssen is poor business, plain and simple. All three cannot get a game, certainly don't deserve to and are money well wasted.

Before any of you start winding your necks out, just list the players that would make way for any of them?..........;)
 

spurs9

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Dier, Yedlin and Dele were pretty much signed before, he deserves credit for making them the players they are, as I dont think they would necessarily be a success at a different club

However if this is a exercise to show that poch has a good eye then it should be assumed that poch became in charge of transfer in the last two seasons or last season really

If its an exercise to show what players poch has got the best out of, then this list is fair
Dele wasn't signed before Poch arrived, he signed in the winter window during Poch's first season.
 

SUIYHA

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In an effort to keep this discussion out of the ITK thread, use this thread to discuss the relative pro's and con's of Pochettino's transfers.

As near as I can tell, Spurs have signed 16 players since Poch became manager. To keep this simple, I'll assume that he gets credit when one works out, and gets blame when one does nto work out - setting aside the details of the inner-workings of the transfer committee, and whether these were Poch's first choice, or last choice.

Transfer Winners - 8

Dier
Dele
Alderweireld
Wanyama
Son
Trippier
Davies
Vorm

Each of these 8 players remain at the club and have contributed greatly to its recent success. Of these, only Son would be considered "expensive". I think we got lucky with Dele and Dier - but you can also say that we made our own luck by scouting, and convincing both to come to Spurs.

Mixed Bag - 2

Janssen
Wimmer

I would not call either a winner nor a loser at this point. Wimmer played well when called upon in 15/16, but struggled to get matches this season, particularly when we moved to 3 at the back. Seems like a bad fit for that role - but when we bought him it was to back up Vertonghen as the LB in a CB pairing - I think he still has a good future in that role. Janssen struggled, but he was also thrust into the spotlight earlier than expected with Kane's injury, and I think that contributed to his year-long struggles. He deserves a second year to see how he adapts.


Gambles that did not pay off - 2
N'Jie
N'Koudou

We were looking for a particular style of player here, but for whatever reason, neither player seems to have been able to acclimate to EPL. Not unusual for players to struggle, but these are close to misses for the scouting department. I don't rate these transfers as total losses though, as they were low priced gambles, and they were fringe needs - i.e. we were not trying to fill an important role with these signing.

Transfer Losers - 4

Yedlin
Stambouli
Fazio
Sissoko

These players never made an impact with Spurs, though Fazio had a few good moments. Nonetheless, Spurs made profits on the sale of Yedlin and Stambouli, and Yedlin, Stambouli and Fazio have enjoyed success at their new clubs. Fazio and Stambouli were poor fits with Poch's tactics, and Yedlin was not ready to contribute when we bought him (Yedlin maybe belongs in the gambles that did not pay off category instead of an outright loser). Sissoko seems like a panicked buy in retrospect.


If I am being honest - Sissoko is the only real bust in Poch's tenure. Expensive player, not suitable to Poch's tactics, and seems to be the result of not getting first choices in, rather than good scouting. 1 bad buy out of 16 is an acceptable ratio.

I would say Dele & Toby should count as double wins. They will have far longer lasting impacts on the club than someone like Vorm who has come in and done a good job as backup. Likewise, Sissoko should count as a double flop. I am never going to get over how somebody with decision making authority at a big business thought that spending £30m on him was a good idea.
 

Gb160

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60 million, or as near as on Sissoko, GKN and Janssen is poor business, plain and simple. All three cannot get a game, certainly don't deserve to and are money well wasted.

Before any of you start winding your necks out, just list the players that would make way for any of them?..........;)
Odd way to look at it Gaz, he can only pick 11 to start.

If he were starting from scratch and buying a 25 man squad, does that mean 14 of them are poor business because they're not in the starting 11?
 

spids

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I think people make far too much of transfer records. Even Fergie only had a 50-50 success rate. They key thing is building a team and a culture (which Fergie excelled at). Early days, but Poch appears to be one of the best at this.
 

Gaz_Gammon

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Odd way to look at it Gaz, he can only pick 11 to start.

If he were starting from scratch and buying a 25 man squad, does that mean 14 of them are poor business because they're not in the starting 11?

I think that for a club with limited finances to spend sixty million on three players neither of which are good enough to make a succession of first team starts is quite shocking to be honest.

Here is what is saw in the FA Cup semi final:

Substitutes from: Begović, Zouma, Terry, Chalobah, Fàbregas, Hazard, Costa

Substitutes from: Lopez, Davies, Walker, Wimmer, Sissoko, Nkoudou, Janssen

Which substitutes from either side would fill you with fear seeing them warm up to come on when you were looking to win a game of football?

I don't doubt that we couldn't afford Costa, Fabrigas (or even want him) or Hazard, but there simply has to be a better way to spend sixty million of valuable transfer funds this off season?
 

THFCSPURS19

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I think that for a club with limited finances to spend sixty million on three players neither of which are good enough to make a succession of first team starts is quite shocking to be honest.

Here is what is saw in the FA Cup semi final:

Substitutes from: Begović, Zouma, Terry, Chalobah, Fàbregas, Hazard, Costa

Substitutes from: Lopez, Davies, Walker, Wimmer, Sissoko, Nkoudou, Janssen

Which substitutes from either side would fill you with fear seeing them warm up to come on when you were looking to win a game of football?

I don't doubt that we couldn't afford Costa, Fabrigas (or even want him) or Hazard, but there simply has to be a better way to spend sixty million of valuable transfer funds this off season?
You're forgetting that Fabregas often started for Chelsea, and Hazard and Costa always started for them so it's an unfair comparison.
 

Gb160

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You're forgetting that Fabregas often started for Chelsea, and Hazard and Costa always started for them so it's an unfair comparison.
exactly, its not like their bench is always that strong...it was virtually a one off.
 

Gaz_Gammon

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You're forgetting that Fabregas often started for Chelsea, and Hazard and Costa always started for them so it's an unfair comparison.


Whether you feel is unfair or not, was not the question i asked. Conte had the strngth in depth to do that we currently do not.

Several of our performances at Wembley on the CL and Europa were down to that strength of our squad during those games because of injury, or suspensions.
 

THFCSPURS19

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Whether you feel is unfair or not, was not the question i asked. Conte had the strngth in depth to do that we currently do not.

Several of our performances at Wembley on the CL and Europa were down to that strength of our squad during those games because of injury, or suspensions.
They usually had Fabregas/Matic and Willian on the bench but apart from that it wasn't great at all. The reason they did so well was because of their lack of injuries and European football which meant they could play virtually the same XI every game.
 

Gaz_Gammon

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They usually had Fabregas/Matic and Willian on the bench but apart from that it wasn't great at all. The reason they did so well was because of their lack of injuries and European football which meant they could play virtually the same XI every game.

You should edit that bit my friend.
 

midoNdefoe

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I think that for a club with limited finances to spend sixty million on three players neither of which are good enough to make a succession of first team starts is quite shocking to be honest.

Here is what is saw in the FA Cup semi final:

Substitutes from: Begović, Zouma, Terry, Chalobah, Fàbregas, Hazard, Costa

Substitutes from: Lopez, Davies, Walker, Wimmer, Sissoko, Nkoudou, Janssen

Which substitutes from either side would fill you with fear seeing them warm up to come on when you were looking to win a game of football?

I don't doubt that we couldn't afford Costa, Fabrigas (or even want him) or Hazard, but there simply has to be a better way to spend sixty million of valuable transfer funds this off season?

Crucially though, that statement is with hindsight. Its impossible to tell if money is well spent until you see the results.

I was quite happy with the signings last summer because they seemed to be ticking the boxes we wanted checked. I think that a bit more time should be given to players before being written off (wishful thinking in here, I know!) because Son, Lamela, Bale etc. all needed at least a season or two before getting going.
 

LexingtonSpurs

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We are led to believe Pleat worked this angle for a while
True, but it would have taken Pochettino to close the deal - in terms of how he would approach Dele once he joined. Dele would have been convinced by Poch that he (Dele) would get a chance to prove his worth in the 1st team.
 
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