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Pochettino:we should have received 'clear penalty' against Swansea

mawspurs

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Mauricio Pochettino insists Tottenham should have received a "clear" penalty by Mike Dean in their 0-0 draw with Swansea on Saturday.

Read the full article at Sky Sports
 

2bearis2do

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So we've dropped more points at home this season in 3 games (7points) than we did in 19 games (4 points) last season - this is not a very good omen.
Wembley problem...You bet - thought I'd like to call it a "Not at White Hart Lane" problem.
Teams have confidence, over time, at their home ground - that's just an historic fact.
I still think we'll do better away this season , which may, just may compensate....
Bad timing for a change of grounds but the future is bright - the future is Lillywhite!
 

UncleBuck

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Can't be bleating on about what we should have got, just makes us sound like we're making excuses again for dropping yet more points at Wembley.
 

Chris_D

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Having seen the replays I think the last one was a penalty. At the time I thought Aurier had made too much of it and that's what probably put the ref off. I don't like to blame the referee, we didn't create enough clear cut chances. We brought on Llorente then didn't go direct. All afternoon it was slow with sideways passes all the time. We needed someone to take a defender on, make a run. When teams sit deep we struggle to break them down, people have noticed.
 

shelfmonkey

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So we've dropped more points at home this season in 3 games (7points) than we did in 19 games (4 points) last season - this is not a very good omen.
Wembley problem...You bet - thought I'd like to call it a "Not at White Hart Lane" problem.
Teams have confidence, over time, at their home ground - that's just an historic fact.
I still think we'll do better away this season , which may, just may compensate....
Bad timing for a change of grounds but the future is bright - the future is Lillywhite!

Yesterday's result had nothing to do with Wembley, it was a combination pedestrian football, lack of ideas, staunch defending by Swansea and ultimately a horrific refereeing display!!
 

shelfmonkey

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What's the betting that we don't get one penalty at Wembley this season!!? Just a thought.
 

2bearis2do

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Yesterday's result had nothing to do with Wembley, it was a combination pedestrian football, lack of ideas, staunch defending by Swansea and ultimately a horrific refereeing display!!

In a nutshell - Spurs have a problem at Wembley - they can't/don't play with the same intensity and confidence they could at WHL. This is due to a variety of reasons that can not be ignored 1) The size of the pitch - like it or not, an extra 500m2 at this standard of football DOES make a difference 2) Opposing teams enjoy Wembley - it is as alien to them as it is to us. 3) We do not (yet) have Home advantage - it's still pretty much a neutral ground for all concerned and would take more than a season for it to become our WHL fortress and proper home no matter the amount of flags and hoardings we brand.
I'm pretty sure we'd have the same problems if our temporary ground was Twickenham or The Olympic stadium etc etc. Building a fortress and an imposing place to play for away teams takes years, familiarity and confidence.

All that aside - I agree - we should have beaten Swansea yesterday but for the staunch defending of Swansea (boosted by them playing their one and only game at Wembley this season) and some poor refereeing decisions - which will cost every team at some point in the season.

We conceded late against Burnley and Chelski at Wembley when we should have drawn and won respectively. Fatigue in the last 5 minutes costing us 4 points in those instances. (Bigger pitch perhaps???)

We're never going to repeat a Home season at Wembley like we had last year at WHL - that's the reality of the situation - but it will be a good season for the learning curve of our young team - we'll get stronger, play better away from home and hopefully come May - we'll be in a cup final at our home we can then call Wembley!

COYS!
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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So we've dropped more points at home this season in 3 games (7points) than we did in 19 games (4 points) last season - this is not a very good omen.
Wembley problem...You bet - thought I'd like to call it a "Not at White Hart Lane" problem.
Teams have confidence, over time, at their home ground - that's just an historic fact.
I still think we'll do better away this season , which may, just may compensate....
Bad timing for a change of grounds but the future is bright - the future is Lillywhite!

We dropped more in the first 2 games. Yesterday was irrelevant to this record. Worrying...
 

yid-down-under

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I wish people would stop going in about the pitch size- most of the premier league pitches are a lot bigger than whl was and we got results on those before
 

sebo_sek

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In a nutshell - Spurs have a problem at Wembley - they can't/don't play with the same intensity and confidence they could at WHL. This is due to a variety of reasons that can not be ignored 1) The size of the pitch - like it or not, an extra 500m2 at this standard of football DOES make a difference 2) Opposing teams enjoy Wembley - it is as alien to them as it is to us. 3) We do not (yet) have Home advantage - it's still pretty much a neutral ground for all concerned and would take more than a season for it to become our WHL fortress and proper home no matter the amount of flags and hoardings we brand.
I'm pretty sure we'd have the same problems if our temporary ground was Twickenham or The Olympic stadium etc etc. Building a fortress and an imposing place to play for away teams takes years, familiarity and confidence.

All that aside - I agree - we should have beaten Swansea yesterday but for the staunch defending of Swansea (boosted by them playing their one and only game at Wembley this season) and some poor refereeing decisions - which will cost every team at some point in the season.

We conceded late against Burnley and Chelski at Wembley when we should have drawn and won respectively. Fatigue in the last 5 minutes costing us 4 points in those instances. (Bigger pitch perhaps???)

We're never going to repeat a Home season at Wembley like we had last year at WHL - that's the reality of the situation - but it will be a good season for the learning curve of our young team - we'll get stronger, play better away from home and hopefully come May - we'll be in a cup final at our home we can then call Wembley!

COYS!
I may have watched a different game, but for me the intesity was there, as were interesting ideas in front of goal. We DID manage to break up their defense time and again, BUT Fabianski had a blinder, we didn't get a pen, when we clearly should have, and luck was not on our side this time (Kane's crossbar). As I said in a different thread, on another day we would have won 4-0
 

2bearis2do

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I wish people would stop going in about the pitch size- most of the premier league pitches are a lot bigger than whl was and we got results on those before

We got "Away" results on those pitches last season and we finished 5th in the Away league. Only winning 9 of 19 games.
Our Home results last season (on the smaller pitch) had us winning the home table. Hence the term "Home advantage"
Anyhow it's not all about the pitch size - it's about it feeling like home over time and getting used to every part of its environment whilst also acknowledging that away teams will love their day at Wembley.
we do not have "home advantage" this season.
 

WalkerboyUK

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I didn't think it was a penalty from where I was sat, and I remain unconvinced even having seen replays. He went down very easily and I thought the ref was actually going to book him.

However, there was an earlier penalty claim for handball, that the ref waved away. What amazed me is that while the players were then re-organising for the goal kick, he clearly indicated to one of the Swansea players that it had hit the lower arm.
 

Janice

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Unfortunately just when we could have won the league if we stayed at whl we are thrust into a transition season or two.

Through no fault of the players its the spursy corporate culture permeating its way in
 
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