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Pochettino: Spurs must be prepared to sell ageing stars in pursuit of trophies

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Tottenham must be prepared to sell more of the players who have been central to their recent success if they want to start winning trophies, according to Mauricio Pochettino. As the club approaches the end of another transfer window without a signing, Pochettino also said he would not hold to ransom his chairman Daniel Levy over spending.

Source: Evening Standard
 

Johnny J

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Damm right we should. Liverpool sold Coutinho and are even better. I'm not saying we should sell Kane, but we can surely improve on many of our players. Whether or not we're prepared to spend what's required to do so is another question.
 

rossdapep

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The problem with this of course is when Liverpool sold Coutinho they IMMEDIATELY brought in VVD then as soon as the summer window opened they brought in Fabinho and followed it with Allison. Paying what was required.

Does anyone trust our club to do the same??

The only time in our past in which we planned ahead was the 7 signings prior to Bale leaving but even that was scattergun and i can't see Poch wanting that approach anyway.
 

Japhet

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IMO the key to progression is having younger players on the pitch with experienced older players whenever possible and not always picking the most experienced team. I doubt we'd be seeing as much of Winks if we weren't running on fumes in midfield. Foyth is a good example of how it should be done, but at the same time KWP isn't. It's a shame because he's a very good rotation option for us but is rarely picked instead of Trippier or Aurier.
 

kaz Hirai

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he's a great company man poch, levy should give him an new contract for 50 years, he's found his perfect partner really
 

Freddie

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I've had a suspicion for some time that as part of the terms of his bumper new contract in the summer, Poch was asked to toe the party line with regard to speaking about the club's (lack of) spending in public. Since a damning interview a year ago he's continuously defended the lack of signings and warned of further caution in the future.
 
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1882andallthat

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The problem with the way we did it with the Bale money windfall was that we didn't have sufficiently attractive wage structures on offer, which is why in the main we attracted most of the players in on significantly lower salaries and we got players of a quality that were far below what we were expecting. Eriksen and to a lesser degree Lamela proved in the main to be the exceptions of those 7 that really worked out.

At this moment in time we couldn't simply replicate what Liverpool have done by selling Eriksen as they did with Coutinho, because we don't have the financial clout to go out and offer the weekly wages that incoming players like VVD would command. The transfer fee itself is the lesser of the stumbling blocks. Until our new stadium revenue streams are in full flow and have been for some significant time, we are not going to be able to regularly offer those deals to incoming players, and it's clear to me that this isn't our intention at any rate, we only tend to reward players once they have performed, hence the reason why our established and top performers get improved offers every couple of years, and even then their wages will still be well below the likes of what City, Chelsea Utd, and even what Liverpool and Arsenal are offering.

We will have to chance it in the hope of getting lucky by getting another Eriksen, and or Modric et al well before they command the kind of wages that incomers like VVD are looking for and for every one of them we will end up with far more who are nowhere near the level they end up at.
 

Metalhead

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Am I dreaming that there was a suggestion a little while back that Levy was seeking extra investment?
 

eddiebailey

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I like the way Pochettino puts a positive spin on this. They will go because they are knackered or because someone has offered them more money. We will struggle to bring in anyone as good.

What we have done well in the past is identifying reasonably priced talent, and then bringing them on over a few seasons. But I get the impression that Pochettino is now turning up his nose at those sort of buys, and holding out for players who are already at a higher level, i.e. players who will improve the first XI now rather than in the future. That’s not going to happen, and while the stand off continues the conveyer belt of talent is becoming a little sparse.
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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I've had a suspicion for some time that as part of the terms of his bumper new contract in the summer, Poch was asked to toe the party line with regard to speaking about the club's (lack of) spending in public. Since a damning interview a year ago he's continuously defended the lack of signings and warned of further caution in the future.
Should be the other way round. He should be making demands of Levy in order to stay, not the other way.
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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He's probably talking about Vertonghen and Alderweireld.

My concern is players of their quality when we signed them are now (thanks to the poxy bin dippers) going to cost upwards of £75m each rather than the average of £10m we paid.
 

UbeAstard

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I've had a suspicion for some time that as part of the terms of his bumper new contract in the summer, Poch was asked to toe the party line with regard to speaking about the club's (lack of) spending in public. Since a damning interview a year ago he's continuously defended the lack of signings and warned of further caution in the future.

Anyone can speculate and have suspicions but that one make no sense and its forgetting that Poch could arguably have other job opportunities offering immediate success with a bigger bumper contract where he could possibly prefer the working conditions.
I prefer to see the things in front of me and accept the words from the horses mouth.
 

Freddie

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Anyone can speculate and have suspicions but that one make no sense and its forgetting that Poch could arguably have other job opportunities offering immediate success with a bigger bumper contract where he could possibly prefer the working conditions.
I prefer to see the things in front of me and accept the words from the horses mouth.

I'd argue that your opinion makes even less sense. Every manager uses the channels of the media to call for more investment in the squad, and given how in-demand Poch is he's clearly in a better position than most to do so. But he hasn't. Can't think of another reason for this other than he's doing what was agreed, hopefully because he plans on staying for a long time.
 

DJS

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We don’t have many ageing stars tbh having let Dembele go.

Alderweireld is hardly old although may go due to not signing contract and us having to accept 25 million.

Vertonghen i’d Imagine we will be keeping as our best centre back and only 31 so has a couple of years left at top level (Adams and Keown for example went on into their fifties lol).

Rose is definitely not aging and has found his groove again so I hope if anything we’ll be extending him.

Llorente probably could do with being shipped and either Sterling given chance to jnoress it another younger option bought in.
 

Freddie

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Or it could be Levy's not making any demands and its all guess work and conjecture.
I prefer to see the things in front of me and accept the words from the horses mouth.

Almost every comment written on this site is an opinion based on the relatively little information we are privy to. Some are based on more foundations than others. Even "words from the horses mouth" mean nothing in football, and I was literally speaking about what Poch has said. My post didn't really need policing. Thanks anyway.
 

TorontoYid

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We should be ready to sell aging stars but only if we bring in quality replacements. I haven't seen any quality additions for quite some time despite a couple of injuries exposing the severe lack of depth we have. Until we get reinforcements I think we can't really sell too many. End of the day though, It is the managers decision and I trust him to do what he sees as best for the growth of the team.
 

UbeAstard

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Almost every comment written on this site is an opinion based on the relatively little information we are privy to. Some are based on more foundations than others. Even "words from the horses mouth" mean nothing in football, and I was literally speaking about what Poch has said. My post didn't really need policing. Thanks anyway.

This is the main part of what what you said....

I've had a suspicion for some time that as part of the terms of his bumper new contract in the summer, Poch was asked to toe the party line with regard to speaking about the club's (lack of) spending in public.

I prefer to see the things in front of me and hear it from the horses mouth. Thanks though
 
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